hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 11, 2010 17:53:33 GMT -5
Totally agree on Farmar. I don't think he's progressed one iota since his rookie season - extremely disappointing, since I know the Laker plan was for him to gradually displace Fisher in the lineup.
He's a restricted free agent this year, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers just let him walk, assuming any other team is interested in him. Regardless of whether they win the title, they need to do some significant revamping of their backcourt. Their best move would be to send Fisher through a time machine and make him about eight years younger.
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Post by MassHoya on Jun 14, 2010 11:06:02 GMT -5
Rajon was the difference last night for the Celtics. No Laker has his speed.
Except for Kobe, no one on the Lakers came to play. Tony Allen blocking Gasol?
Very astute observation by Phil about the Celtics losing more games then anyone else in the fourth quarter. Doc won't use that, I am sure.
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Post by jacko on Jun 14, 2010 11:19:01 GMT -5
Rajon was the difference last night for the Celtics. No Laker has his speed. Except for Kobe, no one on the Lakers came to play. Tony Allen blocking Gasol? Very astute observation by Phil about the Celtics losing more games then anyone else in the fourth quarter. Doc won't use that, I am sure. This Celtics team is so likable... they give so much for each other on nearly every play. It's great to watch them play and win. I do think a decent presence from Bynum could give the Lakers a chance though.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jun 14, 2010 11:20:07 GMT -5
celtics, please end this in game 6 so i don't have to see phil sleeping on the bench or ko-me's fake tough guy act before, during and after every game. he is becoming #1 on my mount rushmore of most hated professional athletes.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 14, 2010 11:23:12 GMT -5
Given their advantage down low, if the Lakers lose this series, it has to be on Phil Jackson.
The big men need to 30-40 shots. Kobe may be the best player on the Lakers, but he's not the best offensive matchup in this series.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 14, 2010 11:24:24 GMT -5
Very astute observation by Phil about the Celtics losing more games then anyone else in the fourth quarter. Doc won't use that, I am sure. I saw Pierce being interviewed about that. His response was great. Very laid back. Took it in stride. Said essentially: Hey, Phil's the coach. He has to say something to his guys. During the regular season, that was true. We didn't finish games well. But this is the post season and a new team has shown up. We know how to finish now and we did last night. I have nothing against Phil for saying that. It's part of his job.
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Post by RDF on Jun 14, 2010 13:47:28 GMT -5
1. Phil Jackson is 100% correct--Boston was falling apart. You shoot that well and are two missed FT's from only being up 3 with plenty of time left--that is all proof you need.
2. Kobe's "fake tough guy act". What's that exactly? Kobe Bryant might be an arrogant jerk--but on the court he's a complete beast. The fake tough guys in this series reside in White and Green and the main culprit looks like a slimy SALAMANDER.
3. Bynum is only guy in frontcourt who is playing tough--his inability is due to his injury--not his lack of physical/mental toughness.
4. Pau Gasol is so SOFT it's beyond belief. He is also the worst help defender on Lakers and it's killing them.
5. Rondo is the MVP of this series and key player-if he plays well-Lakers aren't going to win.
6. Nice to see majority of players not whine that much last night to officials. Had some glares and brief complaints but it was 2nd straight game where I thought officiating was good and players did a good job of adjusting.
7. Will Gasol finally realize that when Rasheed Wallace is beyond the 3pt line--he will NEVER put the ball on the floor and drive by him and if he does-that is what you want?
8. Jordan Farmar is GARBAGE. For the crap Sasha Vujacic gets--he's tougher/better player then Farmar--who is complete trash.
9. Mark Jackson has cornball lines--but I like his professionalism when calling a game-he calls it like he sees it and doesn't care who you are, if people don't like what he says, and that's respectable. Don't always agree with him--but at least he takes a position and doesn't waver.
10. Lakers have best player--but not best team. Celtics are a better/deeper team and for Lakers to win this series--they need 3 guys to help Bryant--whether it's on defense or offense--but he needs help and on that team--I think Fisher, Bynum, and Artest have mental toughness and give effort to do so. Pretty telling when Odom/Gasol are not mentioned and I really think Gasol will fake an injury before he'd step up and fight to the end of a tough/must win game. He's got his chance to prove all of his doubters wrong-but he's such a wimp, he makes KG look like a clutch, tough guy on court.
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Post by prhoya on Jun 14, 2010 13:47:58 GMT -5
Is our ex Rivers at the games?
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Post by kchoya on Jun 14, 2010 14:10:03 GMT -5
Anyone doubt that the Lakers will get all the calls in game 6 and get the win?
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 14, 2010 21:05:04 GMT -5
Will throw in my 1 cent.
All I'm hearing on the radio is this is just like 2008. That's idiotic. This series is nothing like 2008. In 2008 the Celtics totally dominated the Lakers in Boston. They might have played 20 games there without the Lakers winning one. The one game where the Lakers made a late run, I thought it was because the Celtics let up. This year, everyone seems to be forgetting that the Lakers did win a game in Boston, and even the two games they lost weren't blowouts (although the Celtics clearly were the better team in both games). This series reminds me more of 1985, where the better team got blown out in game 1 (although the Memorial Day Massacre was way worse of a blowout than game 1 this year), and then controlled the balance of the series. Of course, that comparison also doesn't bode well for the Lakers, so I'm not thrilled with it.
I'm really wondering whether Bynum will ever be healthy for the playoffs. This makes three straight years he's either been unavailable or unable to perform at his best. It's not a good trend, and I think it's a huge factor in this series.
Agree with RDF re Farmar. Even though he's a Bruin, I've had enough of him. As I indicated earlier, the Lakers have some serious revamping to do in the backcourt, as Fisher can't go on forever, Farmar is lousy, Sasha is lousy, and Shannon Brown may be leaving. I'm not sure I would even play Farmar tomorrow. Go with Sasha and Brown as the back-ups.
Artest was abominable last night, and when he had a chance to make up for his crappy play, he bricked the free throws. I'm looking for a bigger game from him tomorrow. I pretty much give up with Odom. He just can't play against the Celtics, for whatever reason. If he shows up, the Lakers will win game 6, but I'm not counting on him.
As for Gasol, he's getting dumped on, but he did get seven offensive rebounds yesterday. I think he'll do well tomorrow, and he's not going to fake an injury. That's BS.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 14, 2010 21:52:34 GMT -5
I can't add much to this stellar pre-game 6 analysis:
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Post by RDF on Jun 14, 2010 23:11:19 GMT -5
I can't add much to this stellar pre-game 6 analysis: ;D
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Post by MassHoya on Jun 14, 2010 23:27:34 GMT -5
You can't make this stuff up. Do you think Vic went to SUcks, too?
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 16, 2010 10:55:30 GMT -5
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Post by guru on Jun 16, 2010 10:57:32 GMT -5
Reports in Boston are that Perkins has a PCL sprain. His absence tomorrow should make game 7 interesting somehow even more boring than the previous games in this series. Fixed
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Post by RDF on Jun 16, 2010 11:19:46 GMT -5
Game 7 is what Sports is all about--so can't wait for tomorrow!
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Post by prhoya on Jun 16, 2010 13:02:57 GMT -5
Guru, I thought you meant "fixed" as in 7-game series between the Celtics and the Lakers. Betting that it was going to go to 7 games was pretty much a sure thing.
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Post by RDF on Jun 16, 2010 15:19:25 GMT -5
A bit OT but didn't deserve it's own thread, Steve Kerr stepping down as Suns GM--which he did a so-so job. Thing is--he's a huge pickup for TNT! While so many detest the NBA, I think the best production in sport currently is TNT coverage of the NBA. From top flight studio show, to great announcing teams, etc...and with Doug Collins going to Philly, that makes room for Kerr to go back to booth! He was a great commentator and looking forward to hearing him again (Doc Rivers too when he eventually leaves coaching/following his kids).
That's one positive of NCAA Tournament going to Turner Sports--they are tops in my book right now and will do a wonderful job. Wish they had entire NBA/NCAA tournament but I'll settle for the great job they do.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 16, 2010 20:47:31 GMT -5
Think Kerr did much better than so so. He had Shaq forced on him last year, and rebuilt the Suns this year back into a team that, pretty much unexpectedly, challenged for the Western Conference title. I gather he must be fed up with Sarver. The Suns' loss is TNT's gain.
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Post by RDF on Jun 16, 2010 23:00:30 GMT -5
Think Kerr did much better than so so. He had Shaq forced on him last year, and rebuilt the Suns this year back into a team that, pretty much unexpectedly, challenged for the Western Conference title. I gather he must be fed up with Sarver. The Suns' loss is TNT's gain. Disagree. He traded for Shaq, tried to make Suns into a defensive team and this year they ended up where they were prior to his arrival and philosophical change--so he wasted time with their best players--they are about to lose their best asset--a young All Star PF, and while I don't think they'd have beaten the Lakers in any of those seasons the past few years--the fact you went back to type of roster/style that was installed prior to your arrival as a GM--is a sign of failure and trading for Shaq was beyond moronic. I give him "so-so" simply for having enough intelligence and modesty to admit he screwed up and rectify it. Kerr to TNT is outstanding. Kerr as GM---not so much.
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