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Post by TBird41 on May 27, 2010 22:40:00 GMT -5
OK, that three by Richardson was ridiculous. Actually ridiculous, not "good" ridiculous.
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Post by TBird41 on May 27, 2010 22:41:49 GMT -5
And so was that put back by Artest.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 27, 2010 22:43:54 GMT -5
what a ridiculous ending to that game. wow just wow.
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Post by hifigator on May 28, 2010 10:45:05 GMT -5
I just don't get it. Boxing out is as fundamental as switching the ball to the outside arm in football. Yet, both are a lost art in today's game. Why? I just don't get it. When the shot goes up, you squarely put an opponent on your rear and and keep him there. It's just second nature. But for today's players, it isn't. Like I've said twice before, I just don't get it.
I could "teach" everyone on every team the techniqe and attitude to do that. Yet, for some inexplicable reason, almost no one does it anymore.
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Post by kchoya on May 28, 2010 10:46:50 GMT -5
I just don't get it. Boxing out is as fundamental as switching the ball to the outside arm in football. Yet, both are a lost art in today's game. Why? I just don't get it. When the shot goes up, you squarely put an opponent on your rear and and keep him there. It's just second nature. But for today's players, it isn't. Like I've said twice before, I just don't get it. I could "teach" everyone on every team the techniqe and attitude to do that. Yet, for some inexplicable reason, almost no one does it anymore. Last night's game was not the best example - Kobe's shot was five feet short of the rim.
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Post by hoyarooter on May 28, 2010 11:24:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with kc here. It appeared to me that Richardson actually did have Artest boxed out for a shot that went long, but Artest read the path of the shot well before Richardson. Nice to see him atone for that blockheaded shot he took a half minute before. That was a true WTF moment.
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Post by hifigator on May 28, 2010 12:04:14 GMT -5
While I understand your point on how/where the ball fell, I don't think you are understanding the box out. Richardson just turned towards the basket and "ambled" a little closer to the rim. The fact that Artest was "behind" him at least at the start of the rebounding isn't the point. No, he didn't box him out at all. All it would have taken was boxing Ron out and the game goes to overtime. Who wins then? No one knows, but they lost specifically because of the lost interest in one of the most basic of fundamentals. When that shot goes up, you find your man and keep him behind you. If there is a long rebound that happens to bounce all the way past you, then you take your poison. What Richardson did was all too common and, even though I wanted the Suns to win, at least maybe it will direct some of the powers that be to the importance of what has now become a lost art. As much as I disliked Dennis Rodman, he was a rebounding machine. Even his technique wasn't "textbook," but it was as close to it as there is in the game now. It's just a huge part of the game that goes unnoticed or unrecognized, and I don't understand why.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 28, 2010 12:33:11 GMT -5
Refs assigned to tonight's Celtics-Magic game:
Monty McCutchen, Mike Callahan and Ken Mauer
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Post by RDF on May 28, 2010 13:21:49 GMT -5
Refs assigned to tonight's Celtics-Magic game: Monty McCutchen, Mike Callahan and Ken Mauer Mauer doing a Celtics game--count that as a "W" for Beantown. If Mauer does a Laker game--take the other team to cover. Word of advice based 100% on knowing the guy. Biggest D-Bag in the league.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on May 28, 2010 14:50:41 GMT -5
Classic Lakers post-season victory. How many of those have they had in the last ten years? Remember the 0.4 D-Fish shot to beat the Spurs several years ago? Seems like the Lakers always manage to pull those ones out.
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Post by hoyarooter on May 28, 2010 19:14:03 GMT -5
While I understand your point on how/where the ball fell, I don't think you are understanding the box out. Richardson just turned towards the basket and "ambled" a little closer to the rim. The fact that Artest was "behind" him at least at the start of the rebounding isn't the point. No, he didn't box him out at all. All it would have taken was boxing Ron out and the game goes to overtime. Who wins then? No one knows, but they lost specifically because of the lost interest in one of the most basic of fundamentals. When that shot goes up, you find your man and keep him behind you. If there is a long rebound that happens to bounce all the way past you, then you take your poison. What Richardson did was all too common and, even though I wanted the Suns to win, at least maybe it will direct some of the powers that be to the importance of what has now become a lost art. As much as I disliked Dennis Rodman, he was a rebounding machine. Even his technique wasn't "textbook," but it was as close to it as there is in the game now. It's just a huge part of the game that goes unnoticed or unrecognized, and I don't understand why. No, I understand the box out perfectly well. I only watched the replay once, but it appeared to me that at the time the shot went up, Richardson was in good box out position, with his arms and legs extended. So at least he was trying to box out. The problem was he lost sight of Artest for an instant and tried to recover, but it was too late. Had the shot been long, the box out would have been just fine. It's not easy to box a guy out on both sides of the rim. I give Artest credit for reacting so quickly to the shot.
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Post by hoyarooter on May 28, 2010 19:16:14 GMT -5
Classic Lakers post-season victory. How many of those have they had in the last ten years? Remember the 0.4 D-Fish shot to beat the Spurs several years ago? Seems like the Lakers always manage to pull those ones out. Don't forget Big Shot Rob and the Kings. These shots are all just balancing the karma for Pops Selvy.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 28, 2010 21:37:16 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 6, 2010 20:24:45 GMT -5
Shelden Williams with only a few minutes in the first half of finals game 2 - proving that he is still a stiff. What a bonehead pass at the end of the half.
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Post by RDF on Jun 6, 2010 22:17:37 GMT -5
Ken Mauer and his crew come through AGAIN!! Hope those that pay attention start making some money--as that greasy slimeball is money in bank when Lakers play-take the opposing team (especially one Garnett is on) and it's a sure thing Lakers won't cover, won't win, and Bryant will have foul trouble.
My favorite "Greasy Ken" call of the night--the ball Garnett tips out of bounds and while replay is available to check the call--they still give ball to Celtics. Great job Greasy Ken--the mafia will be proud of you--as always!
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 6, 2010 23:24:14 GMT -5
Ken Mauer and his crew come through AGAIN!! Hope those that pay attention start making some money--as that greasy slimeball is money in bank when Lakers play-take the opposing team (especially one Garnett is on) and it's a sure thing Lakers won't cover, won't win, and Bryant will have foul trouble. My favorite "Greasy Ken" call of the night--the ball Garnett tips out of bounds and while replay is available to check the call--they still give ball to Celtics. Great job Greasy Ken--the mafia will be proud of you--as always! Lakers went to the free throw line 50,000 more times than the Celtics and still lost! For the first three quarters every touch call was going the Lakers' way. So I don't want to hear anything about the refs helping out Boston. My favorite call was when Davis clearly blocked Bynum's shot but the refs had to bail Bynum out...AGAIN...by calling some phony foul. Its absurd how many whistles were blown. Sheldon Williams was so horrible in his two minutes on the floor that it leads me to believe if the Cs' big men get that much into fou trouble again Doc Rivers would rather have Nate Robinson manning the paint instead of calling Sheldon's number again.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 6, 2010 23:25:43 GMT -5
Shelden Williams with only a few minutes in the first half of finals game 2 - proving that he is still a stiff. What a bonehead pass at the end of the half. What about the dropped pass when Rondo found him alone underneath the basket? He has always had suspect hands. How did he end up being drafted in the lottey?
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 6, 2010 23:30:52 GMT -5
Well, Shelden is tall and he has 6 fouls to give...
Fun stat: Lakers made 31 free throws and only 29 field goals in game 2.
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Post by RDF on Jun 7, 2010 1:17:13 GMT -5
Ken Mauer and his crew come through AGAIN!! Hope those that pay attention start making some money--as that greasy slimeball is money in bank when Lakers play-take the opposing team (especially one Garnett is on) and it's a sure thing Lakers won't cover, won't win, and Bryant will have foul trouble. My favorite "Greasy Ken" call of the night--the ball Garnett tips out of bounds and while replay is available to check the call--they still give ball to Celtics. Great job Greasy Ken--the mafia will be proud of you--as always! Lakers went to the free throw line 50,000 more times than the Celtics and still lost! For the first three quarters every touch call was going the Lakers' way. So I don't want to hear anything about the refs helping out Boston. My favorite call was when Davis clearly blocked Bynum's shot but the refs had to bail Bynum out...AGAIN...by calling some phony foul. Its absurd how many whistles were blown. Sheldon Williams was so horrible in his two minutes on the floor that it leads me to believe if the Cs' big men get that much into fou trouble again Doc Rivers would rather have Nate Robinson manning the paint instead of calling Sheldon's number again. When you have a guy nailing jumpshots from 3--why the hell would you go to the FT line? Lakers were pounding the ball inside and drew fouls-it's a joke when fans bitch about fouls when one team is playing an inside game and other is shooting jumpshots. That Bynum call was awful--but it was a makeup for screwing Bryant over on the other end--he didnt touch Rondo--and that gave him his 4th foul. So Glen Davis gets screwed over while Kobe Bryant does--I'd call that a good trade off if I were a Boston fan. Paul Pierce often falls down due to being a subpar ball handler and he gets more calls then Bryant--without having Bryant's game. Why is that? Just think if you hate the Lakers, you see it one way and if you hate Boston--you see it another--but I have studied the screw jobs Ken Mauer and his boys put to Bryant time/time again--it's more then ironic. Who has a back to basket game for Boston? They drive/slash and kick.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jun 7, 2010 6:12:05 GMT -5
you sound like phil crying about the refs.
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