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Post by RDF on May 19, 2010 10:24:24 GMT -5
Only surprising thing was that he didn't collapse to pretend he had a dizzy spell that caused him to GAG. Always have hated how he doesn't compete and that just escalated after last night.
Championship teams/players are built on people ignoring their fear of failure and just taking the moment and making it theirs--and if you think of it--what pressure is there? You're making millions, you've made it and are secure--so it should be easy/less pressure. Just shows you how someone's make up is--and in Playoffs-it's why I'd take guys who aren't "names" but have balls the size of Sam Cassell or Robert Horry anyday of the week.
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Post by hoyarooter on May 19, 2010 12:05:03 GMT -5
Rome referred to Gagmeister Carter as a future hall of famer this morning, and I just thought to myself, no way, no how. We're debating on another thread whether Pierce and Allen are future HOFer's, and both of them are way more deserving than Vince, who never shows up when the chips are down.
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 19, 2010 12:37:55 GMT -5
UNC fans can always point to their stars from the 80s, but their pros from the 90s are by and large one-dimensional scorers who will never win anything. Jamison, Carter, Stackhouse. Only Rasheed played an iota of defense, and he definitely didn't reach his potential, either.
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Post by MassHoya on May 19, 2010 16:16:40 GMT -5
Rasheed has been an important part of the Celtics playoff run, probably second only to Rondo. I agree he never reached his potential, or more likely, deserved the rep he had, but he has been playing defense and rebounding as well as his offense in this run.
Vince Carter in the HOF? That's a joke, right?
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Post by Jack on May 19, 2010 16:58:28 GMT -5
Rasheed has been an important part of the Celtics playoff run, probably second only to Rondo. I agree he never reached his potential, or more likely, deserved the rep he had, but he has been playing defense and rebounding as well as his offense in this run. Somewhat infuriating to a season ticket holder like yours truly who had the pleasure of watching him move between quarter speed and half speed while seldom venturing below the free throw line over the course of 82 regular season games.
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Post by redskins12820 on May 19, 2010 19:07:39 GMT -5
Rasheed has been an important part of the Celtics playoff run, probably second only to Rondo. I agree he never reached his potential, or more likely, deserved the rep he had, but he has been playing defense and rebounding as well as his offense in this run. Somewhat infuriating to a season ticket holder like yours truly who had the pleasure of watching him move between quarter speed and half speed while seldom venturing below the free throw line over the course of 82 regular season games. Are you Bill Simmons? That's a paraphrase of his article today.
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Post by Jack on May 20, 2010 8:51:55 GMT -5
Somewhat infuriating to a season ticket holder like yours truly who had the pleasure of watching him move between quarter speed and half speed while seldom venturing below the free throw line over the course of 82 regular season games. Are you Bill Simmons? That's a paraphrase of his article today. I know he said it, but believe me I thought it before he wrote it. Simmons was ahead of the curve in condemning the Wallace signing when it happened (I was just happy for an improvement on Mikki Moore), but I have been lamenting Sheed's lack of effort since November.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 20, 2010 9:17:03 GMT -5
He's not Bill Simmons, he's just practicing the job qualifications for the Connecticut AG job.
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Post by MassHoya on May 23, 2010 5:06:29 GMT -5
Another blowout by the Celtics? Unbelievable. Rajon Rondo, with that one hustle, dive on the floor then lay up play, became a Celtics legend. Really cheap shot by Barnes on Garnett.
I hope there is something left in the tank for the Lakers.
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Post by RDF on May 24, 2010 23:15:35 GMT -5
Vince Carter is AWFUL.
Vintage KG 4th Quarter/Late Game "heroics". Does anyone look to give up the ball quicker then "The Franchise" when it's nut cutting time?
Play of the Playoffs--Dwight Howard elbowing the "tough guy" in the face--and then KG ACTING tough after a make/foul on Jameer Nelson--then getting elbowed in back of head, flopping and going to officials. What a poser.
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Post by dcc33 on May 25, 2010 6:33:06 GMT -5
Agree on all counts RDF. Couldn't believe how many Celtics passed on decent shots as the clock was winding down. Seemed like nobody wanted to take a big shot, and they had quite a few 24 sec violations and turnovers with a second or two left. If you're left open with 2 seconds left and the ball is on your hands - shoot the damn thing!
Carter stunk the whole game, and speaking of garbage - Rashard Lewis - I hate watching him play. He makes a few open 3s drops an assist or two, then gives absolutely nothing, just like the rest of the entire series.
Orlando is just overmatched. The Celtics played horribly last night, and they still win that game if a few easy buckets roll in during the opening minutes of OT, or if Pierce makes one of the 6 open 3s that he took. Gotta step up the D though - they seemed a step slow all game.
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Post by RDF on May 25, 2010 10:48:33 GMT -5
Whats scary is that Carter is such a gutless bum that he makes Garnett look like Robert Horry at the end of a game. At least Garnett will not run/hide on defense like Carter did repeatedly switching to make Jameer Nelson defend Paul Pierce---and it was by choice. What a cowardly player.
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Post by hifigator on May 26, 2010 13:44:36 GMT -5
Whats scary is that Carter is such a gutless bum that he makes Garnett look like Robert Horry at the end of a game. At least Garnett will not run/hide on defense like Carter did repeatedly switching to make Jameer Nelson defend Paul Pierce---and it was by choice. What a cowardly player. Vince was conserving energy in case the Magic needed someone to miss a couple of free throws in the waning seconds.
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Post by hoyarooter on May 26, 2010 18:14:52 GMT -5
Whats scary is that Carter is such a gutless bum that he makes Garnett look like Robert Horry at the end of a game. At least Garnett will not run/hide on defense like Carter did repeatedly switching to make Jameer Nelson defend Paul Pierce---and it was by choice. What a cowardly player. Vince was conserving energy in case the Magic needed someone to miss a couple of free throws in the waning seconds. Good one.
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Post by Jack on May 26, 2010 21:05:35 GMT -5
Eddie F. Rush is a disgrace. And no one is saying it, but unless Stern overturns one of those T's, Perk gets a one game suspension for have 7 T's in the postseason.
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Post by SSHoya on May 26, 2010 21:36:00 GMT -5
What's up with these refs?? They stink.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 26, 2010 22:04:35 GMT -5
What's up with these refs?? They stink. Both ways - wildly inconsistent calls on both teams - and they are calling it like it's girls high school instead of NBA basketball. As an aside, Paul Pierce has turned into the second coming of Kevin Braswell at the end of games.
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Post by hifigator on May 26, 2010 23:36:50 GMT -5
What's up with these refs?? They stink. Both ways - wildly inconsistent calls on both teams - and they are calling it like it's girls high school instead of NBA basketball. As an aside, Paul Pierce has turned into the second coming of Kevin Braswell at the end of games. First things first: 1. I am a vocal, if not even well-known and outspoken critic of refs in general, not to mention the three myopic rodents who rule the hoops version as they observe and perambulate the particular panels of assorted stained hardwoods. That being said, I have to admit that, at least in game 4, the refs weren't calling anything. At first, I was quick to notice the calls for "them." But it didn't take long to realize that, while impacting the game in some degree, they weren't calling anything on either team. They were "letting them play," and most importantly, being consistent. That is all any of us can ask for. As for tonight, I didn't see enough to formulate a strong opinion, but from what I did see, they were again consistent, but the did tend to call too many touch/bump fouls out top. But again, they did so on both teams from what I saw. Secondly, Paul Pierce is a whining, spoiled malcontent. That is all.
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Post by kchoya on May 27, 2010 8:14:58 GMT -5
Hifi - a legend in his own mind.
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Post by Boz on May 27, 2010 8:21:24 GMT -5
I shudder to think what could happen in the Hub if this goes on much longer.
There might be some Armageddon-like "basically the worst parts of the Bible" scenarios.
Forget the border, Obama might have to send the National Guard up I-95.
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