DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 23, 2009 21:06:23 GMT -5
Tough loss.
Keep your posts in bounds or they will be deleted.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Feb 23, 2009 21:09:04 GMT -5
I wish they had just given up so I could be mad at them. Its so obvious how badly they want it and how hard they played. Its just not there. It was painful to watch those last five minutes, they were just forcing it too much. If they hadn't shot themselves in the foot they wouldn't be in the posistion, but I just feel for them.
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Feb 23, 2009 21:09:30 GMT -5
Just Frustrating.. At times we look like were running our offense crisply and taking good shot, and other times it looks like were way too passive and sloppy.
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lurkerhoya
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:09:32 GMT -5
We've gone over everything ad nauseum about this team's faults.
3 games left, BET and probably NIT. Let's use it to get better. The NIT may not be NCAAs, but the talent is good, the games are close, and it's a great chance for this group to learn how to close the one-and-done games we know are coming in the coming years.
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Feb 23, 2009 21:10:35 GMT -5
Lurkers right.. Nothign else to say....
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Feb 23, 2009 21:10:51 GMT -5
lock it up hahaha
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Post by arlingtonhoya05 on Feb 23, 2009 21:11:26 GMT -5
2 minutes left, down by 11, and we run a Princeton set. III has lost all ability to adapt his gameplans to the flow of a game. Has our team ever practiced a press break? And goodbye dajuan, go to the league. We have plenty of guys waiting on the bench who chuck up an awful three NIT BABY!
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757hoyafan
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Post by 757hoyafan on Feb 23, 2009 21:11:41 GMT -5
Keep your head up fellas. We will rebound from this.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:12:15 GMT -5
I almost get the sense that JT3 is looking ahead to next season already by giving experience/minutes to multiple guy who will be here next year (Vaughn, Clark, Wattad, Sims, Nikita).
Summers was playing badly, and there may have been some foul trouble but in a crucial game like this you want Summers and Monroe out there every minute of this game.
Cumulatively, the inexperience of the reserves is going to cost you a couple points/TOs per person, especially guys who have rarely played lately like Vaughn and Wattad. That's why I couldn't understand why the reserves were getting so many minutes in this key game.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 23, 2009 21:12:44 GMT -5
At least passion has been there for a few guys in the last 2 or 3 games. That is a start
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 23, 2009 21:13:15 GMT -5
It has been a long time since I've seen a Hoya team play this tight. Sapp, Wright and Vaughn all played hard although the results weren't always great. Vaughn actually played very well, with generally solid interior defense and a couple of nice putbacks. With the way Louisville's inside players were abusing our starting front line playing Vaughn made a lot of sense.
The Wright missed dunk pretty much encapsulates the last month - great effort that was almost, but not, rewarded.
It did not help that Louisville shot 70% in the first half - that gave them a working margin that the Hoyas could never overcome.
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Post by arlingtonhoya05 on Feb 23, 2009 21:14:35 GMT -5
Dan, completely agree. But it is worth noting that shooting a high percentage isn't difficult when most of your looks are wide open.
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Post by formerbearcat on Feb 23, 2009 21:14:59 GMT -5
Princeton 0, R.I.P.
58 points in a must win game, and it wasn't the Louisville's D, our offensive style is outdated.
Thompson just doesn't get it, he fails to make adjustments.
Everyone has our number, even the marginal teams can make a game of it.
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chep3
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Post by chep3 on Feb 23, 2009 21:16:14 GMT -5
Yeah I agree with that sentiment. There's a lot of lessons floating around out there, let's hope we can learn some of them between now and November. I still think we have an immensely talented squad and, depending on who comes back, one that can contend for the NC next year. Just hope we get better, learn how to win games, and learn how to execute down the stretch. Gotta love the heart that Chris showed, I really do think this will become his team next year. Jessie had some nice moments, maybe tried to do too much, but I can't fault him too much for that in the 2nd half when we couldn't get closer than 8 and everyone knew the game was on the line. Greg is still a phenomenal player who I'd love to see stay. We'll see what we happens.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:18:14 GMT -5
The Wright missed dunk pretty much encapsulates the last month - great effort that was almost, but not, rewarded. . The Wright dunk attempt was a mental mistake and trying to do too much. If he had made it it would have fired up the crowd for sure but it was basically an easy layup if he had just layed it up. Wright lays it up on his finishes because his hands are too small to do one handed dunks. Basically the ball was falling out of his hand before he could dunk that thing home which is why it missed. Another reason little PGs dont dunk in games is because you can mess your fingers up. (That's why you never saw Isaih Thomas dunk even though he could).
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chep3
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Post by chep3 on Feb 23, 2009 21:20:10 GMT -5
Scratch that. I agreed with the sentiment in the first handful of posts.
Yeah the game has mystically changed since 2007 when we were the 2nd best offense in the country, or from last year when we were in the top 20. I can see how it's outdated. Hmm, maybe L'ville being the 2nd best defensive team in the country might have something to do with that. We got beat by a better team. They ran the same defensive system that they did last time they came to DC. We beat them then, we just weren't good enough defensively to stop them today.
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lurkerhoya
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:20:38 GMT -5
Truth be told, right now I don't see much difference in talent and flaws between this team and JT3's first team that played its way into the NIT. As we know, that same group went to a Final 4 running this same offense these guys are. Someday soon we'll have a program that isn't decimated by the turnover in personnel that requires starting from scratch every 4 years in terms of running this offense.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Feb 23, 2009 21:20:39 GMT -5
I chalked up the Marquette loss to a combo of inexperience and facing a more-talented backcourt. This loss, I just don't know. Obviously, Louisville is just a better team, and they play defense the way the Hoyas teams of the past couple of years played.
Given the continuing barrage of losses, I am more numb than anything else... Still cannot believe that this team, with the high level of talent it has, the oustanding character of the kids, and the fine coaching will not be remotely close to .500 in the conference and will not be playing in the NCAAs. Crushingly disappointing season.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:20:59 GMT -5
Princeton 0, R.I.P. 58 points in a must win game, and it wasn't the Louisville's D, our offensive style is outdated. Thompson just doesn't get it, he fails to make adjustments. Everyone has our number, even the marginal teams can make a game of it. You can say what you want but Georgetown wouldn't be back on the national stage, and getting these McDonald's All American if JT3 wasn't here.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:21:39 GMT -5
The game was over in the first 10 minutes. Probably the worst 10 minutes I've seen all year. You don't come back from that against Louisville shooting the lights out on their floor OR ours. The rest of the game was just superfluous.
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