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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 19, 2009 7:32:35 GMT -5
One stat I loved seeing after our game was over: 0 fast break points allowed. Too many times in the past few games, we've allowed ourselves to get hurt by not getting back on D (I would say that this specifically cost us against Seton Hall). Part of it was USF's inability to finish, but I thought just from watching it on TV that the guys made a much more concerted effort to at least get back and challenge shots in transition. I want to see that continue on Saturday.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Feb 19, 2009 7:47:06 GMT -5
A win we needed and played better than I expected. Conversely, USF also played worse that I expected defensively. One down, four to go.
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Feb 19, 2009 8:42:12 GMT -5
That was the second worst loss of the season that South Florida has suffered. They lost by 26 at Lousvillle. They were coming off a 10 point loss at Notre Dame.
South Florida isn't a good team, and the team can improve. But that was a solid win.
Hoyas have a deep hole to dig out of, but at least that was a start, and the team should gain some confidence.
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 19, 2009 9:11:34 GMT -5
I cannot understand criticizing the Hoyas after they just won a road league game and gave USF its biggest loss at home all season. I am not pretending SFU is good, but Georgetown dominated and to worry about second half defense and turnovers to me is pointless. When you blow the doors off a team by going on a 16-0 run in the first half and double them up 34-17, the game is OVER.
Anyone who has played the game knows you cannot eliminate human psychology, anyone will let up after taking such a commanding lead against a team you know has a hard time scoring. The fact we built the lead in the 2nd half tells me all I need to know about where this team's head was at last night. They played well, period.
Hopefully we bring the same offense on Saturday minus the TOs.
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Feb 19, 2009 9:14:57 GMT -5
Was Omar Wattad DNP-Coach's Decision? Hope he's healthy.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 19, 2009 9:25:35 GMT -5
Seemed to me that the stretch where the Hoyas had a lot of trouble defensively (especially in the interior) coincided with a stretch where Julian and Henry were playing the 4 & 5.
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Post by GPHoya on Feb 19, 2009 9:39:52 GMT -5
It is always nice to play a poor team having a bad night. Of course, even that was not enough for us to beat Seton Hall which eventually woke up when they recognized how badly we were playing. It was our bad fortune to catch an average team on a good night twice in Cincy so things can even out. It would be lovely for Marquette and/or Louisville to put up a stinker this weekend. God knows Louisville has it in them.
USF aside, because who really cares, the switching and communication on defense in the first half was a massive improvement. Second half lapses were troubling, but inconsequential for this game. SF is right to question why we can't defend better in the second half as neither Marquette nor Louisville can be beaten in just 20 minutes. Glad to see Monroe lifted after he failed to challenge wide open foul-line jumper in 2-3 zone. Must continue to light a fire on his defensive effort, though I saw some improvement.
The cuts in the offensive set were much crisper and more sustained. It looked like we were more committed to everything. We need to keep it up, cut down the unforced errors and make the lay-ups.
My best guess in 8-10, an 11 seed, and a Tuesday nightcap against St. John's which would be frightening. If successful, a Wednesday nightcap against Syracuse, which could get us into the tournament or keep us out. Of course, there are many moving parts and this is just my guesswork after looking at everyone's schedule down the stretch. Our best chance for an 8th win is Saturday against Marquette and St. John's may not be a walkover.
Last night is something to build on going forward. It kept hope alive.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Feb 19, 2009 9:41:46 GMT -5
much better movement with the offense....looked fluid again....building off of the cuse game.....definitely more active on defense loved to see it. bring it again on saturday for a monster game!
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Post by hoyalawyer on Feb 19, 2009 10:03:37 GMT -5
Wright has really picked up his play the last two games, which is obviously something we'll need against Marquette. I thought Nikita was really picking it up and I was OK with moving him to the starting lineup - but he's been terrible. Unless he is hitting 40% of his 3s he's a liability, and he isn't hitting anything. Sapp needs to play a lot more against Marquette. I appreciate Nikita's rebounding and hustle, much like I do (did earlier in the year) Omar's hustle and taking charges on D. Both make the post entry to Monroe. Neither is an excellent defender (Omar slight edge in Man, Nikita slight edge in zone due to length). Nikita is a little foul prone (avg 7.8 fouls per 40 minutes) and NEITHER has shown the "3pt threat" that they were recruited to be. Hopefully that part of there games will come along with more reps and confidence. I like Nikita starting simply because it makes us better sized to start off, and it gets the ball to Greg early. PLUS it motivates Sapp to go hard off the bench, and gives CW the liberty he needs to "run the show" so to speak. That said, I don't see the need to play Nikita over 20 mpg b/c I would like those extra 5 minutes or so to go to Wattad/Clark/Sapp to maybe get more offense going.Keep him starting but divide his minutes more, especially when he is not contributing points on offense. -Lawyer
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 19, 2009 11:11:07 GMT -5
CO_Hoya's excellent writeup: Link HereQuotes/Stats of Note: - "With the big lead in the 2nd half, Georgetown didn't shoot any 2-pt jumpers which shows excellent discipline."
- Layups/Tips: GU 17-23, USF 10-22 / Jumpers: GU 1-5, USF 2-11 / Fast break pts: GU 16 (0.286), USF 0 (0.000)
As much as USF couldn't shoot, the above shot selection shows our advantage over them. We forced more jumpers (though they got to the line more) and got more in the fast break. Of worry: - 30.2% Turnover Rate, mostly in the second half. Marquette will massacre us if we're this sloppy.
- 23.8 OR%. Barely showed up on the glass in the first half. We were shooting well, but still -- 8% of OR in the first half is handicapping yourself. We D Rebounded this game, but didn't O Rebound.
- We fouled them a lot, but it's almost a good thing to me -- at least there is aggression.
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Post by the_way on Feb 19, 2009 11:55:22 GMT -5
I like the new starting lineup.
Nikita gives us size and knows how to work within the flow of what we are trying to do. don't look at his box score. he gives us something as a starter. And i think Jesse is better in his new role off the bench. He can just come in and be Jesse with his energy.
Props to JTIII to making the right adjustment.
We beat a bad team we were supposed to beat. If we want to be a good team, this is what good teams do.
The real test are these next two games.
Growth is a process.
Have we really grown? Have we really changed?
We will see these next 2 games.
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Post by justabballfan on Feb 19, 2009 12:07:48 GMT -5
I saw that no one mentioned Clark having a great game. 4-5 Shooting for 9 points, 4 rebounds, 2 offensive. He also had 2 turnovers, but was able to recover from one and block the lay up at the other end.
To me, Clark plays a lot better when he does not have to bring the ball up the court. He is a slasher who can finish at the rim. Right now, he needs to work on bringing the ball up the court and breaking the press. I think everyone benefits from him playing at the 2 spot. If he comes in at the 1 and turns the ball over it can hurt his confidence. Keep him at the 2 for now.
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Post by bmartin on Feb 19, 2009 12:08:04 GMT -5
I tend to agree with the earlier conjecture that one purpose of this drama was to allow Wright to establish himself as the undisputed floor leader and get Sapp to accept that and just play.
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Post by seaweed on Feb 19, 2009 12:51:13 GMT -5
Bailey Heaps article in the Hoyas says Omar "missed his second-straight(sic) game with an injury".
Have we seen this info elsewhere, addl detail, etc?
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Feb 19, 2009 12:59:56 GMT -5
I think the quote was from the Washington Times article, but III said something along the lines of the offense being patient, but not slow. There is a huge difference between the two, and I think until last night our half court offense was more slow than patient. But last night we moved the ball well, cuts were very sharp and purposeful, and we pretty much avoived the lazy passes around the perimeter.
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Post by CO_Hoya on Feb 19, 2009 13:00:07 GMT -5
Bailey Heaps article in the Hoyas says Omar "missed his second-straight(sic) game with an injury". Have we seen this info elsewhere, addl detail, etc? On the last Talking Hoya podcast, Barker Davis mentioned that Omar was wearing a "boot" during the Syracuse game.
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