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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 18, 2009 21:11:25 GMT -5
Indeed! A win on Saturday would be huge for this team and this season.
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HealyHoya
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Post by HealyHoya on Feb 18, 2009 21:33:06 GMT -5
Nice to see a W for this team.
Concern: we gave up way too many points in the paint in the 2nd half -- way too many and-1s in the paint in the second half -- against a USF team without any real post threat -- not inspiring on D at all.
A better team would have destroyed us down low.
Good perimeter D and nice work in transition.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Feb 18, 2009 21:33:29 GMT -5
missed game, haven't watched DVR yet.
Were Greg's 5 TOs of the step on the back line variety? Were Nikita's 3 attempts close?
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Post by berrypatch26 on Feb 18, 2009 21:44:53 GMT -5
If you should win by 25 and you do, then it's a good game. Nice job!
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 18, 2009 21:45:19 GMT -5
This was an important game, and as it was on the road and given how we have played vs USF, one that could have easily been lost. Well, a 25 pt win on the road is something, even vs USF. Let's build on this. Remember the 1984 team, and beat Marquette again at home. GO HOYAS!!!
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Feb 18, 2009 21:46:00 GMT -5
Unbelievable free throw defense out there tonight.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 18, 2009 21:46:32 GMT -5
Oh, DFW, you were very quick tonight in getting the recap up on the front page!
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Post by 757hoyafan on Feb 18, 2009 21:50:28 GMT -5
1 was an air ball.... 1 of Greg's t/o was a foul, but the ref said he moved his foot... missed game, haven't watched DVR yet. Were Greg's 5 TOs of the step on the back line variety? Were Nikita's 3 attempts close?
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Feb 18, 2009 21:57:27 GMT -5
Not exactly inspiring basketball out there tonight, but we did what we had to do. A convincing win that was never in doubt.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 18, 2009 21:57:44 GMT -5
Like the win, and if we didn't need to go about 4-1 the rest of the way out I wouldn't complain, but:
- Defense really wasn't all that strong, especially inside in the second half. They left 10 points at the FT line and a few more missing threes.
- 19 turnovers against South Florida is more or less equivalent to about 30 versus Marquette. Just ugly from that standpoint.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Feb 18, 2009 22:12:05 GMT -5
A better team would have destroyed us down low. Any time we play a bad team there is a 100% chance that some variation of "if we were playing a better team tonight...." post will show up. I didn't see most of the game so, maybe so. Just pointing out that after every single time we play a bad team it's guaranteed that somebody on hoyatalk will make the "if we were playing somebody better tonight..." post. Just mentioning.
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Post by Bay99 on Feb 18, 2009 22:14:09 GMT -5
Good and absolutely necessary win.
Saturday is a monster. Verizon needs to be rocking.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Feb 18, 2009 22:16:51 GMT -5
I'll gladly take it the win. When they're up by 20+, I don't really care about the turnovers, etc. I don't think USF got closer than 16 or so.
Having said that... it was against a pretty horrible USF squad. I will see a glimmer of hope if the Hoyas handle Marquette on Saturday.
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Post by theyellofallyells on Feb 18, 2009 22:21:43 GMT -5
if we beat Marquette on saturday (a huge if) then the Louisville game is going to be BANANAS if the fans have any understanding of crucial games.
nice win tonight vs USF (who isn't actually THAT bad). Gotta keep playing. Our offense was run to perfection at times tonight.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 18, 2009 23:09:06 GMT -5
if we beat Marquette on saturday (a huge if) then the Louisville game is going to be BANANAS if the fans have any understanding of crucial games. nice win tonight vs USF (who isn't actually THAT bad). Gotta keep playing. Our offense was run to perfection at times tonight. They're that bad. I hope our guys don't think so and play with confidence Saturday. But yes, they're terrible.
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Post by blueeagle on Feb 18, 2009 23:18:00 GMT -5
This is a win. Will it turn our season around? Will it propel us to a win on Saturday? I have no idea. But still a win. Let's just pat the guys on the back and say good job. No need to make it any more or less relevant than it is. I am sure the guys are feeling good about this W. I know that I am.
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Post by Gammo on Feb 18, 2009 23:23:22 GMT -5
SFHoya99, I won't disagree that the second half defense was not as strong, but I think the first half defense was the key to this game. We were present and energetic and I remember feeling it was the controlling force in the game. We need to bring that energy this weekend!
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Feb 18, 2009 23:41:42 GMT -5
Wright has really picked up his play the last two games, which is obviously something we'll need against Marquette.
I thought Nikita was really picking it up and I was OK with moving him to the starting lineup - but he's been terrible. Unless he is hitting 40% of his 3s he's a liability, and he isn't hitting anything. Sapp needs to play a lot more against Marquette.
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Post by FLHoya on Feb 19, 2009 0:00:13 GMT -5
The "inattentive" spell came just about the same time of the second half as it always does...funny when you win by 25 you're willing to chalk it up to going through the motions against a bad team.
You could see some of our defensive flaws clearly throughout the game--and pick where the rotation doesn't come quickly enough, where such and such can't stay in front of their man, where certain guys don't recover quickly enough. A combination of poor outside shooting (USF's only three point field goal was its first FG of the game), poorer interior finishing, and poorerererererer FT shooting (they mustve got the Foul Line Flu from Marquette) would have done USF in no matter what.
Still, at the very least we were making small progress--certainly better perimeter defense in the second half, although USF was carving passes into the center of the D too much for my liking. And you have to give a nod to a +13 rebounding total and a live-with-that eight offensive boards surrendered.
But the ship has probably long since sailed--the team we've got has some defensive flaws. We can cover them up to a limited extent, but...and I'm turning my theme for the season on its head here...it's gonna be about the offensive playing smart going forward and taking opportunities when they're given.
To that end, I very much enjoyed that the Hoyas were successful in transition converting TOs into baskets, and getting back to a key part of the offense from early season--the three point FG on the secondary break or an unsettled situation (hello there, Mr. Sapp).
Can't emphasize enough how important Wright is to the team going forward. My favorite play of the night was in the second half when he used the Monroe high screen at the three point line and attacked the rim for an easy layup. He's got it in the arsenal and we need all the weapons we can get. That goes for Monroe taking some of those driving layups if he can get to his left.
Setting up for a big one on Saturday.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Feb 19, 2009 7:09:02 GMT -5
good win. glad to see the positive rebounding numbers again. too many TO's. for those in NY, the game on SNY at 3pm today.
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