OFFICIAL LOST SEASON 5 THREAD

[Boz]

If he addresses the issues of time travel, numerology or four-toed statues, I will vote for him for re-election.

[PDRHoya99]

It would seem like the east coast Hoya/Lost fan would have suffered tonight having to decide between the two going head to head. Little did we know that having a reason to not watch the NIT game would be a good thing.

[strummer8526]

I also enjoyed. It definitely set up the next 3 or 4. Additional thoughts:

I like the actor who plays the DHARMA guy that checked in Kate—the guy who was on Mad Men. He's just seems like an interesting actor, and based on his appearance in two of the biggest shows of the last 2 years, I think we may see more of him in the future.

This episode made me wish that Sawyer was in charge all along. They really have developed his character into a great one. I might put him now neck-and-neck with Locke of Season 1 and Desmond of Season 3(? maybe 4?) in terms of my favorite characters.

Rose is the key. I don't know how or why. But she will be back.

Is it just me or does Frank look like Christian? When Frank was taking over the leadership of the new accident crowd, I couldn't help but think he looked like an older "Jack's dad" character. He seems like he comes from that line of character.

I liked The Numbers playing into the co-pilot's headset when he was calling mayday.

[jgalt]

Mar 19, 2009 10:10:14 GMT -5 strummer8526 said:

Rose is the key. I don't know how or why. But she will be back.

Hell YES!


Also it want to know how Ethan convinces the others not to kill him when they take over.

[Nevada Hoya]

I am confused about why half the losties on the plane went back to 1977 and the other half to 2007. Anxious to see how that is explained.

[strummer8526]

You know what else this made a bit better for me? The viral thing that they did over the summer—the DHARMA recruiting thing. Granted, I thought that fell short of expectations, but it did foreshadow the fact that DHARMA recruiting would matter. And now that our losties have been recruited and assigned jobs based on "aptitude tests," at least there's some context for the game.

[Boz]

Yeah, you gotta' love how, for all that Sawyer has changed and taken on a leadership role, he's still Sawyer for the most part....assigning Jack to janitorial duty based on his "aptitude."

That was pretty funny.

Personally, I'm not interested at all in the "personal" catfights that may come up bet. Juliette-Kate, Sawyer-Jack. I think the "taking sides" fights that are to come for reasons not associated at all with who's sleeping with who will be much more compelling. And Sayid will be the catalyst, of course.

Is Faraday off licking his palms and rocking back and forth somewhere? Or did Sawyer say "he's not here" because he's working near the donkey wheel?

[jgalt]

Mar 19, 2009 14:20:31 GMT -5 Boz said:

Is Faraday off licking his palms and rocking back and forth somewhere? Or did Sawyer say "he's not here" because he's working near the donkey wheel?

Or hes dead, probably by hostiles, or has been taken by/joined the hostiles.

on another topic, from the comments on the Lost recap at Bestweekever.tv:

If you rewatch the scene where Christian takes Sun into the house, at the end of the scene, if you watch very closely, you’ll notice that there is another woman in the room. At the very end, just after Christian says “You have a long road ahead of you,” and it goes to a tight push in shot on Sun. Over Sun’s shoulder you can clearly see a figure, that appears to be a blond female, move her head. So are we to believe that Claire was in the room with Christian?

[HoyaSinceBirth]

lost.cubit.net/archives/2009/03/5x09-the-woman-with-christian.php

here's a link to what jgalt is talkinga bout since i rewatched that scene 5 times and still couldn't see it for myself, I figure others will have the same problem.

Good episode seems worse because of all the amazing episodes we've had.

Lots of good reveals though, Ethan, young ben, christian.

[jgalt]

Mar 20, 2009 10:45:11 GMT -5 HoyaSinceBirth said:

lost.cubit.net/archives/2009/03/5x09-the-woman-with-christian.php

here's a link to what jgalt is talkinga bout since i rewatched that scene 5 times and still couldn't see it for myself, I figure others will have the same problem.

Good episode seems worse because of all the amazing episodes we've had.

Lots of good reveals though, Ethan, young ben, christian.

Definitely someone there. Cant be furniture because it moves. The easy guess is Claire.

I liked that scene because we saw Sun become a very strong character. She wasnt afraid (like i would have been) that there was someone in this abandoned town about to talk to her. She is really on a singular path.

This may help the show because everyone else seems to go all over the place and doesnt seem to really have a goal or even appear to figure out what is going on. They seem much more concerned with relationships and everyone being happy. I would just be like "What the eph is going on!" not "oh lets just see what happens and play dumb"

Sun is determined to find Jin (this will be difficult, like christian says they have a long journey ahead of them) but she doesnt seem to be concerned about anything other than her husband.

They made a kind of big deal about Sun having Jin's wedding ring so that maybe why she didnt jump with the others.

Finally Lepidus is the best character to be with Sun. He is a fan favorite, but doesnt have all sorts of baggage or his own objectives. he is kind of just along for the ride and can lay down some good one liners like hurley. great as a supporting character.

[vcjack]

One theory I've seen is that because only the people Locke personally asked to come back jumped in time, Sun stayed behind.

[RBHoya]

There is a lot to be explained but I think the reason Sun didn't flash back is because if she had never left, she would have died when she had the baby. Jack, Kate, Sayid, and Hurley were "not supposed to leave" as Locke kept saying, and if they hadn't left, they would have flashed through time like Sawyer and them and ultimately ended up back in the 70s and would have lived there for 3 years. But, that wouldn't have happened for Sun, because if she had stayed on the island her baby would have come to term on the island and she would have died. I think that may be one of the reasons that she didnt flash back. But really, you can't ask "why didn't she flash back?" when really she landed with most of the other regular people and didn't change times. The more logical question I think is still why in the hell did Jack/Kate/Hurley/Sayid flash back into the 70s as the plane went down? Dunno if they'll ever answer that.

Buff, I don't know when you'll listen to me but I'm telling you Claire is dead and resurrected just like her old man. She's not just out there roaming in the jungle, she has passed on. Time to come to grips with it my friend

Rose and Bernard--and I think it was HSB who said this somewhere--have to be the leading suspects to be Adam & Eve from season 1 at the caves. Weren't those bodies from the 70s? 100% chance it's somebody we know, and now that the record stopped skipping in the 70s and they're nowhere to be found, it makes sense that its them. Thats probably a season 6 reveal.

I think Horace's wife is a double agent of some sort. Her old husband was rocking the ankh necklace which is the same symbol the giant egyption statue was holding, and I think there are ties between the others and ancient egypt (hieroglyphics as evidence). I think her old husband was a hostile/other, which is why Alpert wanted his body back (perhaps to re-animate him somehow?), and I think she is in on it. I think she married Dharma's top guy to destroy the DI from within, which is why/how her baby becomes an other and is spared in the purge.

Finally, I'm eager to see what happens with Ben and really the implications of the whole thing. If teenage Ben met Sayid in '77, then when Sayid first walked into the room in the hatch where Ben was kept in 2004, Ben probably recognized him instantly. Matter of fact chances are pretty good that he knew Kate, Jack, Sawyer, Juliet etc. as well. Might explain his crush on Juliet considering he probably knew and loved her when he was a teen. It also would explain why he always seems to be a step ahead and seems to know the exact move to make, as he had probably studied Sawyer, Kate etc. in the past to know how they'd act.

The whole thing is pretty paradox-layden, but if Widmore met Locke in the 50s and remembered him in '07, then we have to think that if Ben met Sayid (and presumably Juliet, Jack, Kate et. al) in the 70's he remembered them in 2004.

[vcjack]

"My point with Claire is only that she's been the worst run character for a little while now"

Yep, and to me it screams "CONTRACT DISPUTE"

[TC]

Mar 20, 2009 17:03:58 GMT -5 buffalohoya said:

Or maybe it does. The fact is, we don't know. Like you said, its a ridiculous paradox that the producers are nowhere NEAR revealing at this point.

I don't think it is a paradox at all. The Universe of Lost is deterministic - you cannot change the outcome (Charlie will still die, the man with the red shoes will die, etc etc), so there really isn't a paradox here. The paradox only occurs in a non-deterministic universe where you don't know what happens if Locke goes back in time and alters something (a la Michael J Fox punching out Biff in Back to the Future makes Biff a car-repair guy).

My feeling is that they've already tipped their hand on this one and there is no "Ben doesn't know Sayid yet" scenario. When we saw the flashbacks, we saw Richard at Locke's birth and meeting Locke as a boy. Locke had not yet gone back in time, but those flashbacks had still happened and could only have happened with Richard's foreknowledge of Locke's existence - because there is only one timeline and they have to happen. My guess is that they'll explain the Ben / Sayid thing with the fact that Ben is a giant liar.

[jgalt]

id like to see more interaction between richard and sawyer like they had when sawyer first entered darmha. id like to know how that effected the "truce"

[strummer8526]

Potential confirmation of the Adam & Eve/Bernard & Rose theory: www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20010504,00.html

Also, I just came across something that mentioned that when Jack finds Adam & Eve, he takes two stones out of one of their pockets: one black, one white. I don't remember that, but I watched the episode quite a while ago.

[Boz]

Anyone know what Ben's book was? I couldn't see it. Some moron called me on the phone as soon as Lost was starting.

Honestly.....who calls during Lost?

[Buckets]

What the hell just happened? Ben can't exist so...

On Edit: Did Old Ben drive a flaming van into a building so that Sayid could kill Young Ben because Old Ben and Young Ben cannot coexist? That's the best theory I've seen in the knee jerk reactions on the Lostpedia boards.

[HoyaSinceBirth]

Aweomse!

I hope ben's dead

[TC]

Uh yeah, they are on an island that heals people super fast and you can't change things. Ben's fine.