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Post by Jack on Nov 2, 2008 16:55:50 GMT -5
Apparently Of Montreal (a pretty good band that I missed seeing in Boston recently) played Day Man at their Halloween show in Philly. And that, my friends, is pretty awesome.
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Post by Jack on Nov 6, 2008 23:40:14 GMT -5
Didn't laugh once at that episode. Fail.
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Post by Boz on Nov 7, 2008 9:55:18 GMT -5
It was a good effort to try to do something a little different, but I have to agree for the most part.
I won't say I didn't laugh once, there were a few good moments (mostly at the expense of Cricket), but overall I think you're right.
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Post by FormerHoya on Nov 7, 2008 19:28:51 GMT -5
I laughed everytime they referred to Sweet Dee as their "witch-slave."
Also, at the very end when they're back in the office in the various poses at the end of the story.
But I'm easily amused.
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Post by Boz on Nov 21, 2008 9:48:19 GMT -5
How can you have a season finale without the McPoyles? Pretty good though. Not great, pretty good.
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 21, 2008 11:54:09 GMT -5
I enjoyed the musical. Pure comedic gold.
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Post by Jack on Nov 21, 2008 21:41:30 GMT -5
Charlie's "Song or no song" rant alone was enough to make the episode awesome.
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Post by Just Cos on Nov 22, 2008 5:58:34 GMT -5
"You want the boy's hole, you have to pay the troll"
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Post by Cambridge on Dec 17, 2008 22:28:38 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone else caught this behind the scenes video[/u][/url]. The choice moment is the song that was cut from the musical, It's Nature Happens as sung by Mac -- you'll find it around the 2:45 mark.
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Post by Cambridge on Dec 18, 2008 22:14:01 GMT -5
[/u][/url]. The choice moment is the song that was cut from the musical, It's Nature Edited Happens as sung by Mac -- you'll find it around the 2:45 mark.[/quote] Hahahahhaa!! Epic. "I put that song in a bodybag!!!"[/quote] Kobra Kai!
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 31, 2008 21:33:26 GMT -5
At a wedding attended earlier this month, Ms. AustinHoya03 could not get Charlie's big finale from "The Nightman Cometh" out of her head during the exchange of vows.
Will you come on stage and join me? In this thing called Matrimony!
This incident spurred a discussion on the precise meaning of the line (from said finale) "Please say yes and do not bone me." Any thoughts? _____________________
Buff, I'm pretty sure Frank owns the bar outright at this point. I am planning on re-watching the bulk of Season 4 on an airplane tomorrow, so I may be able to confirm/disconfirm post-weekend.
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 8, 2009 15:25:13 GMT -5
The way I understand it:
It's clear from various points of reference that the original owners of Paddy's were Charlie, Mac and Dennis.
However, it is unclear how this ownership structure works. First of all, they appear to be equal partners in the enterprise as each is given a full vote in management decisions. This differs from Sweet D who is given no vote whatsoever and is clearly not a partner.
Yet, I find it hard to imagine how Paddy's bar was financed in the first place. I assume they don't actually own the property, but rather rent the space from the land owner. Therefore, the ownership stake is in the business, not the land.
Dennis obviously comes from a wealthier background and may well have cashed in some of his inherited wealth to purchase his share. Mac comes from an impoverished background, but does have an acknowledged history of drug sales - of a prep school variety, but drug sales nonetheless. Therefore, it is possible he scraped together his share via illicit means. Charlie however appears to live in absolute poverty. The designation of all dirty work as "Charlie work" suggests Charlie may have been fronted his share, in exchange for indentured servitude.
It becomes clear that this ownership has shifted over the years. Mac and Dennis both claim that Charlie has signed over large portions of his interest in the bar for such measly consideration as sandwiches. I cannot recall the exact breakdown, but I seem to recall him having sold as much as 2/3 of his interest to Mac and Dennis. This would leave Charlie with less shares in the bar than either Dennis and/or Mac.
The neighboring Israeli owned no interest in the bar, but owned lot next door. He claimed that his lot extended under the bar and therefore he "owned" a portion of Paddy's and demanded demolition of the bar so as to allow him full use of his lot.
After Frank purchased the lot from the Israeli, I believe he claimed that he bought the entire block. This would make Frank the landlord to the bar, or at the very least, the landlord to the portion of the neighboring lot that sits under a portion of Paddy's. Frank used this ownership to leverage a stake in the business. I can't recall what stake he takes, but I seem to remember it being half. That would leave Dennis, Mac and Charlie splitting half the business amongst themselves under their previous ratios and Frank holding the remaining 50%.
The bum in Dance Your Ass Off was competing for ownership of the bar. As Charlie was the one to put this prize up, I believe it must be limited to the business and not the land. Therefore, it was Paddy's Bar that was the prize, not the underlying land. Since the bum won and he was Frank's inside man, it is arguable that Frank now holds the entire bar free and clear.
There are some other complications and I'm pretty sure I'm missing a transaction or two. Anyone?
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 8, 2009 17:12:26 GMT -5
So you just wrote that entire dissertation to say/ask what I did a week ago and we're no closer to an answer. How could Charlie put up the bar as a prize when he is easily the smallest stakeholder of the group? My guess is he - at best - signed over his dwindling share to the radio station (amazing cameo by the Sklar brothers), which Frank then won. So I say again... safe to assume Frank owns half plus Charlie's shares, Dennis and Mac own the rest? EDIT: Trust me, I'm glad you wrote said dissertation. Its what makes HoyaTalk so great (think "Superman: Serial Killer"). I'm just bummed we're no closer to an answer. And as an aside, I obviously wasn't making the distinction between "own" and "control" when it comes to the underlying land, the bar itself, etc. I thought I had successfully implied I only cared about Paddy's itself without getting into the nuances of greater Philadelphia property law. I realize we're no futher. I was just fleshing out where we stood. I need to review the series. Sounds like a project for this weekend. As for Gang Dances their Asses Off, my recollection from Corps was that a single general partner could make a binding agreement for the entire partnership. As I don't imagine DMC (Dennis, Mac and Charlie) had a LLP or anything even more complex, I believe each was a general partner. Therefore, Charlie could put up the entire partnership as a prize. Anybody better at corps?
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 8, 2009 17:19:51 GMT -5
Alternatively, the gang's reaction to Charlie's action of putting the bar up as a prize could easily be argued as a ratification. Rather than challenge the legitimacy of his potential transfer, they treat it as legitimate.
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Post by Boz on Jan 8, 2009 17:43:31 GMT -5
Am I the only one thinking that Glenn Howerton, Charlie Day and Rob McElhenney would get a kick out of this thread, particularly the recent digression about who owns the bar? Something tells me they'd respond by saying, "yeah, uh, we don't really know who owns the bar either." ;D You could always ask them at the Paddy's Pub blog: paddyspub.blogs.fxnetworks.com/
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 9, 2009 9:25:53 GMT -5
Alternatively, the gang's reaction to Charlie's action of putting the bar up as a prize could easily be argued as a ratification. Rather than challenge the legitimacy of his potential transfer, they treat it as legitimate. But challenging the legitimacy of Charlie's actions wouldn't yield a hilarious half-hour of comedy now, would it? Not so fast, may I remind you of Charlie's brief stint as Mac's defense counsel. "You buried me!" and "Objection, extremely racist!" were two stellar lines.
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Post by Boz on Sept 17, 2009 17:15:53 GMT -5
Also, with tonight's season premiere, we should probably revive this thread too.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 17, 2009 21:14:20 GMT -5
Hilarious!
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Post by Boz on Sept 17, 2009 22:11:13 GMT -5
I think the show that followed definitely has some potential.
Adam Reed in charge, the guy who was responsible for Sealab and Frisky Dingo (two of the funniest animated shows of all time).
And H. John Benjamin (a.k.a. Coach McGuirk) as the lead character?
Say no more. I am in. Looking forward to more of that in January.
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Post by Jack on Sept 18, 2009 8:21:40 GMT -5
I really should have gone into bird law.
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