2008 College Football In-Season Thread!

[FewFAC]

Oct 27, 2008 23:11:50 GMT -5 RDF said:

Texas and Oklahoma State was on ABC or ESPN on ABC--it wasn't on FSN. That garbage was Oklahoma and Kansas State, Texas A&M and Iowa State, or Colorado and Missouri. Nebraska and Baylor were on Versus--but I forget that channel exists.

You betcha . I saw the replay on classic like right after I posted and was too lazy to make a correction. I must have seen the hilites during the Okie-KSU game and just kept on flippin' through that schlock.

[kghoya]

what a great game tonight...i doubt texas tech goes undefeated but im really glad they got the W tonight

[RDF]

Yep--I was completely wrong-thought Tech would gag as always--but I really respect the fight and comeback from Texas. Great game and Michael Crabtree is best WR in Country--that play was what great players do. Will say it was tragic how unruly the crowd was at end and why Leach didn't go for 2 pts up 38-33 is beyond me--even with 1 second left--you go for 2 and make sure you are at worst in OT if something odd happens.

Florida looked tough.

USC is really playing well on defense--they have 3 shutouts this season already. I don't care who you play-well --not the Cougs--they are all time bad--but 3 shutouts is impressive in a season. Even 2 when you take out the Cougs ineptness.

Minnesota signified the TRASH that is the Big 10 by letting a backup QB run for over 200 yards on QB Sweeps and Counters and then losing on the INT for TD. This league is at an all time low--it's really poor football.

Canes with a huge win for program in game they really shouldn't have won.

FSU gagging made my day--along with Notre Dame blowing a 2 TD lead against Pitt. Still, nothing like seeing Marcus Sims fumble as FSU was about to win another game they didn't deserve to win--but benefitted from strange calls and an injury or more to other team.

Oklahoma-Nebraska played this week's Oklahoma clown show game. Their games are unwatchable against Big XII North. Just awful football, unless you like to see one team give a game away, bad defense, and nobody even trying to compete. It's better then Big 10 and Toby Keith was there--in case you didn't know-he's a Sooner fan.

[Coast2CoastHoya]

First time USC has 3 in-season shutouts since 1982, first time since 1965 they have 3 Pac-10 shutouts.

Damn Oregon State.

[RDF]

Nov 2, 2008 11:29:43 GMT -5 Coast2CoastHoya said:

First time USC has 3 in-season shutouts since 1982, first time since 1965 they have 3 Pac-10 shutouts.

Damn Oregon State.

Upsets happen--but it'll be a disgrace if USC is left out of BCS altogether. If Oregon State wins out and things remain as they appear--USC could be 11-1 and playing in the Holiday Bowl. Now I honestly think the BCS should be done away with IF that were to happen. This team might not deserve to be in title game if they win out--but they certainly deserve to be in a BCS game. I know there is a lot of football left--but this is a very possible scenario.

[GIGAFAN99]

Nov 2, 2008 12:36:15 GMT -5 RDF said:

Nov 2, 2008 11:29:43 GMT -5 Coast2CoastHoya said:

First time USC has 3 in-season shutouts since 1982, first time since 1965 they have 3 Pac-10 shutouts.

Damn Oregon State.

Upsets happen--but it'll be a disgrace if USC is left out of BCS altogether. If Oregon State wins out and things remain as they appear--USC could be 11-1 and playing in the Holiday Bowl. Now I honestly think the BCS should be done away with IF that were to happen. This team might not deserve to be in title game if they win out--but they certainly deserve to be in a BCS game. I know there is a lot of football left--but this is a very possible scenario.

I won't cry for USC either way because the fact that we're talking about them seriously for the national title game is a joke in my mind.

They shutout three teams that are a combined 3-22 on the year. Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh. They lost to Oregon State legitimately. USC has played three road games in-conference (a conference that is 1-6 versus the Mountain West FYI). One was against the worst team in history (WSU), one they lost by 6 to a decent bowl-bound team (Oregon St.), and one they won by a touchdown over yet another decent bowl bound team (Arizona).

So to USC, I say "big deal." They didn't have any more landmines on their schedule than any other potential BCS champ and they haven't been so impressive that I'm giving them the benfit of the doubt.

Beating Ohio State without their running back at home doesn't sway me at all. USC is good, but it's no tragedy if they're left out.

[hifigator]

RDF, I doubt that USC will get left out if they do go 11-1. Oregon State has no shot at the BCS title game, so the Rose Bowl is theirs to lose. But even so, I think USC will still look very good for an at-large bid. The Big 10 doesn't deserve an at large, but if Penn State is in the Title game, then the Rose Bowl is obligated to pick a Big 10 team, I'm pretty sure. So in USC's interests, Iowa needs to beat Penn. St. And I don't say that at all, because that would almost certainly lock Florida into the title game, IF we are fortunate enough to win out. OK, well maybe that factored in a wee bit. In all seriousness, if Penn State is in the Rose Bowl, then I don't see the Big 10 getting a second at-large team. I don't think the ACC is worthy of an at-large either, unless something really screwy happens. And I don't think the Big East will get an at-large either. The Big 12 and the SEC will both get at-larges, but that still leaves one more. I think USC has the inside track for that, regardless of the title game -- as long as Penn St isn't in the title game.

[hoyarooter]

I could be mistaken, but I don't think that the Rose Bowl is legally committed to taking a Big 10 team if Penn State is in the title game. They do typically, however, seek to preserve the tradition of a Big 10/Pac 10 match-up if possible, ergo, the selection of Illinois last season. What I don't think the Rose Bowl would do, however, is rematch Ohio State with USC if USC wins the Pac 10, but you never know.

I lost my father, who was a Northwestern grad, two weeks ago. I hope that somewhere Dad was laughing over the insane finish to the Northwestern-Minnesota game. I know I had earlier written that I thought it would be cool for Minnesota to win out and end up in the Rose Bowl, but this trumps that for me personally.

[alleninxis]

Dez Bryant > Michael Crabtree

[hifigator]

Yeah rooter, I don't think a rematch of any sort is in the works at all. What I was saying was that IF Oregon State wins out, they will get the Rose Bowl, since they won't be in the Title game. If Penn State is in the Rose Bowl, the USC would be very likely to get a BCS game in either Tempe, New Orleans or Miami. But under that same scenario, if Penn State is in the Title game, then the Rose Bowl would get one of the first two picks. They obviously won't pit USC against Oregon St. So that is one less chance for the Trojans to get an at-large. I do think they will take a 10-2 Ohio State team though. I was actually thinking that they "had" to take a Big Ten team if there was a worthy replacement, but I could be wrong.



On Edit: sorry about your loss rooter.

[hifigator]

Here are a couple of interesting stats that I heard:

Notre Dame is 1-15 in their last 16 games against teams over .500 -- that is ridiculous.

The Irish have 4 straight Top 10 recruiting classes. Where the hell are all those players? As Cowherd said, they just don't pass the "eyeball" test. He said that he has been at the last 3 USC-Notre Dame games, and was on the field for 2 of them. He didn't see a single Irish defender who could start for USC -- not even 1!

That Florida-Georgia game sure gave everyone the impression of a total blow out, and it was. But if you looked at the stats, it wouldn't necessarily look that way. Georgia actually outgained up 390+ to 360+. They also had time of possession by nearly 32 minutes to about 28. They had more return yards, although that doesn't factor in interception return yardage. The point is that you wouldn't guess Florida could have a 49-3 lead halfway through the 4th quarter with those stats. Obviously the glaring stat that changes all of that is turnovers. THe dawgs had 4 while our one interception was called back do to a penalty.


RDF, you are dead on for the 2 point conversion in the Texas-T Tech game. There's no reason not ot go for 2 there. I'm glad to see someone else finally noticed that.

[kchoya]

Nov 3, 2008 13:45:12 GMT -5 alleninxis said:

Dez Bryant > Michael Crabtree

I think you have that backwards.

[GIGAFAN99]

Nov 3, 2008 13:45:14 GMT -5 hifigator said:

Yeah rooter, I don't think a rematch of any sort is in the works at all. What I was saying was that IF Oregon State wins out, they will get the Rose Bowl, since they won't be in the Title game. If Penn State is in the Rose Bowl, the USC would be very likely to get a BCS game in either Tempe, New Orleans or Miami. But under that same scenario, if Penn State is in the Title game, then the Rose Bowl would get one of the first two picks. They obviously won't pit USC against Oregon St. So that is one less chance for the Trojans to get an at-large. I do think they will take a 10-2 Ohio State team though. I was actually thinking that they "had" to take a Big Ten team if there was a worthy replacement, but I could be wrong.



On Edit: sorry about your loss rooter.

USC is in at 11-1, no question. Here are the only possibilities for the 4 at-large bids:

One Big XII (lock)
One at-large (Utah, Boise St. TCU almost lock)

So there are two more. It's not going to be from the ACC or Big East.

So despite hifi's assumptions, a two-loss SEC team is not a lock which means 'Bama needs to win out and then lose to Florida. And even then it still means USC needs to get bumped for a two-loss OSU team. That's unlikely enough but even to get to that point takes a lot falling into place.

[AustinHoya03]

Re: Texas-TTU (which I don't really want to talk about) -- the Raiders deserved to win with the effort they put forth. Had Texas run the clock down on its final drive and sealed the win, the Longhorns would have stolen a W. Walking home Saturday night and going to work this morning were both insufferable. I'll leave it at that.

Looking forward to TCU @ Utah on Thursday.

Not looking forward to watching scoreboards and rooting for other teams to lose for the rest of the season. Oh well -- Texas still has a great shot at a BCS bowl and a decent shot at Miami.

[alleninxis]

No..Dez just doesn't get the media attention

Look at what Dez does in an offense that runs it as much as it throws it..plus his ability in the return game.

60 for a 1000 and 15 scores...2 scores on returns. Those numbers are equal or actually better than Crabtree's.

The best in the country at going to get the ball..the catches he makes are just silly

and is only a true sophomore.

[SFHoya99]

Nov 3, 2008 13:33:24 GMT -5 hoyarooter said:

I could be mistaken, but I don't think that the Rose Bowl is legally committed to taking a Big 10 team if Penn State is in the title game. They do typically, however, seek to preserve the tradition of a Big 10/Pac 10 match-up if possible, ergo, the selection of Illinois last season. What I don't think the Rose Bowl would do, however, is rematch Ohio State with USC if USC wins the Pac 10, but you never know.

I lost my father, who was a Northwestern grad, two weeks ago. I hope that somewhere Dad was laughing over the insane finish to the Northwestern-Minnesota game. I know I had earlier written that I thought it would be cool for Minnesota to win out and end up in the Rose Bowl, but this trumps that for me personally.

Sorry for your loss, Rooter. Maybe he had a little hand in that ending.

[SFHoya99]

So, if you were the selection committe, and had to put together an eight team tourney as of today -- no more games -- what would your tourney be? The goal here is to seed perfectly based on your expected results -- #1 seed wins the tourney, #2 seed gets to the title game, etc., and not based strictly on accomplishments.

My off-the-cuff thoughts:

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. USC
4. Penn State
5. Texas Tech
6. Alabama
7. Oklahoma
8. Oklahoma State

[kchoya]

Nov 3, 2008 22:17:48 GMT -5 alleninxis said:

No..Dez just doesn't get the media attention

Look at what Dez does in an offense that runs it as much as it throws it..plus his ability in the return game.

60 for a 1000 and 15 scores...2 scores on returns. Those numbers are equal or actually better than Crabtree's.

The best in the country at going to get the ball..the catches he makes are just silly

and is only a true sophomore.

Their numbers are similar this season, but I doubt he ever puts up the 134 for 1962 and 22 TDs Crabtree put up last year.

[hifigator]

Nov 4, 2008 10:45:15 GMT -5 SFHoya99 said:

So, if you were the selection committe, and had to put together an eight team tourney as of today -- no more games -- what would your tourney be? The goal here is to seed perfectly based on your expected results -- #1 seed wins the tourney, #2 seed gets to the title game, etc., and not based strictly on accomplishments.

My off-the-cuff thoughts:

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. USC
4. Penn State
5. Texas Tech
6. Alabama
7. Oklahoma
8. Oklahoma State

You sure could make a hell of a 3 week playoff with those teams, and there aren't really too many teams that would have a beef about being left off either. As for the seedings, I would probably flip flop Bama and Penn St. but it really is tough to argue against either of them right now. That 30 point beat down of Oregon St. just keeps looking better and better though.

[alleninxis]

He won't..cause he doesn't play in Mike Leach's offense