SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 4, 2008 15:10:40 GMT -5
I'm re-evaluating my 8.
I think I'd seed Texas #1.
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Post by hifigator on Nov 4, 2008 16:26:23 GMT -5
SF, I don't think too many of us could argue with virtually any ordering of those 8 teams at this point. I guess it would be hard to put Texas above Tech, just as it would be hard to put the Sooners above the Horns, but it is fairly clear that those are the elite teams. I know that there might be a Utah fan out there somewhere, but I'm not a believer.
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Post by RDF on Nov 4, 2008 16:53:41 GMT -5
I'll come out and say it about Oklahoma--who the hell have they beaten? The best team they've beaten to this date is TCU--and that game was more of TCU giving OU game in First Quarter--after that, the game was a stalemate. I really think this Oklahoma "hype" is going to be done away with after they play Tech and Oklahoma State--and maybe they win one of those in shootout fashion--but I just think they are a fraud out of all the Big XII teams I've seen this year. They are giving up 35 ppg against some average teams over past 4 weeks and their defense gets worse as season continues. People always talk about Ohio State being a "thorn" in BCS side-what about OU? They have prevented the country from seeing LSU vs USC, Auburn vs USC, and they lose to a decent Boise State team--who only looked "great" due to playing a Venables defense, and they were embarrassing against WVU last year. I don't want them anywhere near the BCS.
I have no respect for Stoops and Venables--they are a clown show and since Mike Stoops has left--"Big Game" Bob has been a BUM in big games.
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Post by hoya9797 on Nov 4, 2008 17:28:38 GMT -5
Is there a special wing in the Gainsville prison reserved for UF football players?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 4, 2008 19:28:49 GMT -5
SF, I don't think too many of us could argue with virtually any ordering of those 8 teams at this point. I guess it would be hard to put Texas above Tech, just as it would be hard to put the Sooners above the Horns, but it is fairly clear that those are the elite teams. I know that there might be a Utah fan out there somewhere, but I'm not a believer. I think there's a strong argument that Texas is better than Tech. Tech won a close game at home. What happens on a neutral site? |
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Post by kghoya on Nov 5, 2008 15:49:01 GMT -5
another one bites the dust
ron prince is gonna be out at k state after less than 3 years
he was on the staff at jmu when i played there...im honestly surprised he moved up this fast
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Post by hifigator on Nov 5, 2008 17:31:02 GMT -5
Is there a special wing in the Gainsville prison reserved for UF football players? Ouch! Certainly nothing to brag about, but Meyer didn't waste any time on this one. Jacques Rickerson was arrested yesterday morning, per a Gainesvill.com article. The time was 8:48am, but I didn't pay attention whether that was the arrested time or the article time. In any case, he was dismissed from the team yesterday by lunchtime. It was announced during "Sports Scene" which runs from noon until 2pm. His only previous runin was a misdemeanor possession charge of weed -- which as we all agree, should be legal anyway. |
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Post by hifigator on Nov 5, 2008 17:39:33 GMT -5
Question for the board:
It is a little tough to do this in such a hypothetical fashion, but here are three questions:
If Penn St. runs the table, along with Florida, USC and Texas, while 2 of the following 3 Big Twelve south teams finish with 1 loss as well (Oklahoma, Oklahoma St. and Texas Tech) ... then who do you think SHOULD play in the Title game against Penn St.?
The second question is even harder: who do you think WILL play in the title game, provided the Big 12 South winner wins their title game?
Finally, if the Big 12 North wins the title game, then who plays?
Basically, there are several possibilities, but if the big 12 finishes with a 3 way tie, then the highest bcs ranking team goes to the title game. Presumably, if Oklahoma finishes with just the one loss, they will be the highest ranked team since they will have beaten Texas Tech and Oklahoma St late in the year.
If it works out that way, and then Oklahoma beats a Missouri team for their title, does that put them ahead of a 12-1 Florida team that has just beaten an undefeated and top ranked Bama team?
Now suppose Oklahoma loses that game, probably to Missouri. Does the bid go to a one loss Florida, USC or Texas Tech/Texas team? In that case, at least theoretically, you could have Texas, Texas Tech or USC in the game without even winning their conference.
In any case, it looks like another mess for the BCS.
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Post by FLHoya on Nov 5, 2008 17:44:25 GMT -5
Of course seeding a hypothetical 8 team playoff (love the army of analysts every year bout this time who call for a playoff as if theyre the first person to ever think of the idea) brings up the question: Were the NCAA ever to go in that direction--let's say an 8 team tournament--do they set it up so the Top 8 teams in some computer ranking/human selection go? Or would it be like the FCS playoffs--auto bids for the big conference champs (the Big Six in FBS) and at-large for the rest? Don't act like you ain't dying to see an Alabama-Maryland QF.  |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 5, 2008 17:45:30 GMT -5
Ideally, I'd love to see an NCAA committee approach.
Realistically, to get buy-in from the Big 6, you're going to need to commit to an auto-bid structure.
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 5, 2008 21:13:19 GMT -5
Question for the board: It is a little tough to do this in such a hypothetical fashion, but here are three questions: If Penn St. runs the table, along with Florida, USC and Texas, while 2 of the following 3 Big Twelve south teams finish with 1 loss as well (Oklahoma, Oklahoma St. and Texas Tech) ... then who do you think SHOULD play in the Title game against Penn St.? The second question is even harder: who do you think WILL play in the title game, provided the Big 12 South winner wins their title game? Finally, if the Big 12 North wins the title game, then who plays? Basically, there are several possibilities, but if the big 12 finishes with a 3 way tie, then the highest bcs ranking team goes to the title game. Presumably, if Oklahoma finishes with just the one loss, they will be the highest ranked team since they will have beaten Texas Tech and Oklahoma St late in the year. If it works out that way, and then Oklahoma beats a Missouri team for their title, does that put them ahead of a 12-1 Florida team that has just beaten an undefeated and top ranked Bama team? Now suppose Oklahoma loses that game, probably to Missouri. Does the bid go to a one loss Florida, USC or Texas Tech/Texas team? In that case, at least theoretically, you could have Texas, Texas Tech or USC in the game without even winning their conference. In any case, it looks like another mess for the BCS. 1. Florida or Texas 2. Florida If Florida runs the table, I think they get the spot. Texas may be the best team, but I don't see them getting the spot if they are unable to get into and then win the Big 12 championship game. A Florida win over Alabama would trump anything Texas could accomplish over the remainder of the regular season. Forget USC. They have no chance unless all of the SEC and Big 12 contenders have two losses. I don't care if they do have four shutouts (I'm just assuming they will add UCLA to their shutout list). |
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Nov 5, 2008 22:21:16 GMT -5
Week 11 Picks for Games That Matter:
Va. Tech over UMD (Thursday)
TCU over Utah (Thursday)
tOSU over Northwestern
Minnesota over Michigan for the Little Brown Jug
UNC over Ga. Tech
U. Va. over Wake Forest
Stanford over Oregon
Penn State over Iowa
Alabama over LSU
Colorado State over Air Force
West Virginia over Cincinnati
Texas Tech over Oklahoma State
SC over Cal
Notre Dame over BC
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Post by hifigator on Nov 6, 2008 12:58:18 GMT -5
Austin, at the risk of additional ire from the board, I honestly do think that Florida-Vanderbilt should have made your list of "games that matter." If Florida wins, they clinch the SEC east and a spot in the Title game in Atlanta in addition to remaining a potential major player in the National Title game. And, of course, it is in Prime-Time on ESPN!
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Post by FormerHoya on Nov 6, 2008 13:44:31 GMT -5
Why? I'm looking for some non-ND fan reasoning on this one. |
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Post by Jack on Nov 6, 2008 14:00:05 GMT -5
Why? I'm looking for some non-ND fan reasoning on this one. BC is terrible. Like even worse than Notre Dame. Clemson totally dominated them at Alumni Stadium last weekend- the only play they could gain any yards on was the draw for about 3 yards a pop. I try to live with few regrets, but my decision to stay in Boston this weekend because of this game rather than head to Alabama-LSU is one of my worst ever. |
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Post by hifigator on Nov 6, 2008 14:05:14 GMT -5
I heard an incredible stat on Cowherd yesterday. I know that Notre Dame has struggled of late, but this is amazing. I still have trouble believing it. Colin said that Notre Dame is 1-15 in their last 16 games against teams over .500
Wow!
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Post by CTHoya08 on Nov 6, 2008 14:52:55 GMT -5
Austin, at the risk of additional ire from the board, I honestly do think that Florida-Vanderbilt should have made your list of "games that matter." If Florida wins, they clinch the SEC east and a spot in the Title game in Atlanta in addition to remaining a potential major player in the National Title game. And, of course, it is in Prime-Time on ESPN! I have to agree with you here. Sure, Florida is probably going to whip the 'Dores, so the game won't really "matter," but any game involving a team that has national title aspirations should "matter" more than this year's edition of ND-BC. Also, Go Commodores. |
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Post by hifigator on Nov 6, 2008 15:13:54 GMT -5
CT, just curious ... where did your signature come from?
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Post by kchoya on Nov 6, 2008 15:15:17 GMT -5
Week 11 Picks for Games That Matter: Va. Tech over UMD (Thursday) TCU over Utah (Thursday) tOSU over Northwestern Minnesota over Michigan for the Little Brown Jug UNC over Ga. Tech U. Va. over Wake Forest Stanford over Oregon Penn State over Iowa Alabama over LSU Colorado State over Air Force West Virginia over Cincinnati Texas Tech over Oklahoma State SC over Cal Notre Dame over BC Incredible that possibly the best game of the week (at least up there with Bama-LSU and TTU-OSU) is relegated to the CBS college sports network. Go Utes. What the hell is a horned frog? |
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Post by kchoya on Nov 6, 2008 15:17:42 GMT -5
CT, just curious ... where did your signature come from? First, there appear to be no burger kings in Florida. Now, it appears Seinfeld is not shown in the sunshine state. |
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