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Post by hifigator on Nov 5, 2007 16:58:38 GMT -5
I heard Colin Cowherd talking about something like that. I never heard any of the tapes or even read specific complaints but apparently there was a tape somewhere that indicated there was some noise/crowd noise being added electronically. Supposedly Cowherd's crew listened to the feeds from both the New England as well as Indianapolis crews' broadcasts and couldn't find any credible evidence. On the surface this sure seems to be someone making a mountain out of a mole hill.
As for the issues that really matter, I think yesterday showed us that the Patriots are a half a notch above the Colts, and therefore anyone else in the NFL. Are they a guarantee to win it all? No, but they would have to be odds on favorites and at least a touchdown favorite the rest of the way out.
The more I think about it, the more I think we learned yesterday. The game should have meant more to the Colts. They were playing at home and even though they are the defending champs, the off season additions that the Pats made have seemingly put the ball in their court. Playing at home, I think the Colts really needed that game. The Pats however made the plays when they needed to. As for the "intangibles," I think that the Colts got a degree of home cooking and yet in spite of that, the Pats pulled the game out.
This might be the best shot anyone has at matching the 72 Dolphins perfection ... at least since the 85 Bears.
The scary part is that now the Pats schedule hits a little bit of an easier stretch. They are on absolute fire and have, in the last 3 weeks, beaten the previously undefeated and defending Suber Bowl Champion Indianapolis Colts, and thoroughly pasted and embarrassed two other decent teams.
Maybe the off week will slow them down ... but somehow I doubt it.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 5, 2007 17:23:57 GMT -5
3. Why must we see Geno's Cheesesteaks during any Philly sporting event? I think if you are a viewer and know the game is playing in Philadelphia--you have heard of cheesesteaks and seen the Geno's promo. Its in the NFL Crappy Game Production Handbook the league gives out to their network partners each year. In it, you'll also find rules demanding: - a minimum of two shots EACH of Niagara Falls and someone tossing wings whenever a game is played in Buffalo - a minimum of two shots of the following: (a) Faneuil Hall, (b) the State House, (c) Boston Public Garden, or (d) any random bridge over the Charles River with the Prudential and the Hancock tower in the background whenever a game is played in Boston - at least three shots of the city skyline with that one building that has the green neon outline whenever a game is played in Dallas - four to five stationary shots of Ocean Drive or Collins Ave whenever a game is played in Miami - a half-dozen or so shots of Alcatraz framed by the Golden Gate Bridge whenever SF hosts a game ... and so on... - a couple of shots of fish being thrown around Pike Place Market for games in Seattle - all the monuments in DC, even for games in Raljon - lots of tailgating shots for games in Green Bay and Kansas City
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 5, 2007 18:26:54 GMT -5
- shots of foliage for any fall game in New England - shots of Golden Gate bridge for all Bay Area sporting events
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Post by RusskyHoya on Nov 6, 2007 0:22:09 GMT -5
I'm just sick of the team being called evil all season, the Colts Polian leading the charge in Spygate then getting busted for pumping artificial sound into the game on national TV, suffering through a miserably amateurish reffing crew, and then Peyton claiming it the loss was due to injuries. "Getting busted" eh? I know Pats fans are really desperate to find proof that other teams in the league cheat besides them, but this is just sad. Other teams do cheat, but the Colts are not among them:An unusual sound on the telecast of Sunday's game between the Indianapolis Colts and New England Patriots was a CBS production issue and not evidence of the Colts breaking NFL rules by enhancing noise at the RCA Dome, a network spokesman said today. "It was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck," the network's LeslieAnne Wade said. "In no way was it from the stadium."... The play, in which Patriots quarterback Tom Brady completes a 14-yard slant to Randy Moss, has a vibrating sound amid the crowd noise that stops abruptly after the tackle. One post characterized the sound as being like a CD skipping or "stuck."
"That's the end of that story," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.Nice try, but I would stick with claiming the NFL/the refs were trying to fix the game - seems more believable. As for claims of "getting busted," I would save those for the individuals who have actually been documented and fined large sums (or suspended for using HGH, but that's another story). It's so sad that, in a year in which pretty much everyone is hailing the Patriots as the greatest team at least since the merger, the Pats and their fans are reduced to these sorts of antics.
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 6, 2007 0:50:28 GMT -5
Hey, just saying what was heard and initially reported. Turns out it was CBS. My bad. But you have to admit, it wasn't hard to believe considering the Colts have been accused several times in the past.
As for the refs, they were bogus. But hey, the Pats won despite playing against the proverbial 12th man and a couple guys wearing stripes. Didn't realize the ref responsible for two of the more eggregious calls was a rookie--which makes a lot of sense. I'm sure he didn't have an agenda, but a rookie ref in that loud dome, is bound to blow a call or two. I'm just shocked that this is the crew the NFL decided to send out for the "biggest regular season match."
The sad part of the season is that the Greg Esterbrook "good/evil" narrative has overshadowed a fairly exciting year. Between the resurgence of storied programs such as the Lions & Browns, the debut of the greatest running back of all time(?) in Adrien Peterson, the rejuvenation of Brett Favre, Brady's race for the record books, and the quest for the perfect season, this season has been very entertaining.
I just wish the venom of resentment and spite hadn't clouded many people's view on the season, including my own.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Nov 6, 2007 0:54:33 GMT -5
Hey, just saying what was heard and initially reported. Turns out it was CBS. My bad. But you have to admit, it wasn't hard to believe considering the Colts have been accused several times in the past. As for the refs, they were bogus. But hey, the Pats won despite playing against the proverbial 12th man and a couple guys wearing stripes. Didn't realize the ref responsible for two of the more eggregious calls was a rookie--which makes a lot of sense. I'm sure he didn't have an agenda, but a rookie ref in that loud dome, is bound to blow a call or two. I'm just shocked that this is the crew the NFL decided to send out for the "biggest regular season match." The sad part of the season is that the Greg Esterbrook "good/evil" narrative has overshadowed a fairly exciting year. Between the resurgence of storied programs such as the Lions, Browns, the debut of the greatest running back of all time(?) in Adrien Peterson, the rejuvenation of Brett Favre, Brady's race for the record books, and the quest for the perfect season, this season has been very entertaining. I just wish the venom of resentment and spite hadn't clouded many people's view on the season, including my own. Gotta agree with pretty much all of that. Journalists love an easy storyline, though, and given Belichick's curt demeanor, the accusations involving players with concussions, the spygate thing, the decision to not let up on teams when winning handiliy... the storyline writes itself. Much easier to ignore all the good stories on the Pats team (Bruschi, Seau, reformed Moss, etc.). Especially when you've got St. Tony Dungy at the helm of the only other team in the league that could possibly challenge for the title.
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Post by Boz on Nov 6, 2007 11:33:49 GMT -5
1. I am embarrassed to be a Ravens fan today. The only consolation is that I didn't have to stay up late to watch that debacle. At this point, I am hoping Steve McNair gets injured or retires. He is just atrocious to watch.
2. Cry me a river, Pats fans. Do you think this is the first great team that has been the target of media scrutiny and criticism? Ask the Cowboys. Ask the Raiders. Ask Hillary, for crying out loud. You are ahead of everyone else in the league. People in the media are going to come at you by all means, fair and unfair. And yes, the media is going to look for the angel to your devil. They did it with the Steelers vs. the Raiders. With the Steelers and 49ers vs. Cowboys, and now they're doing it with the Colts vs. the Pats.
Why do you think the hoax today was that Tom Brady was suspended? Because he's Tom Brady! No one cares if Donovan McNabb is suspended (in fact, I think elvado is actively trying to make that happen).
People are going to continue to vilify your team this year. Count on it. You're not the upstart Pats that shocked the Greatest Show On Turf anymore. You ARE The Greatest Show On Turf.
And don't think that you act any differently when the shoe is on the other foot. Or has New England collectively forgotten the years from 1919 to 2003 inclusive?
If you can't handle being the Yankees, then I just don't know what to tell you. Suck it up, shut up and just enjoy the wins. Sheesh!
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Post by RDF on Nov 6, 2007 12:39:39 GMT -5
1. I am embarrassed to be a Ravens fan today. The only consolation is that I didn't have to stay up late to watch that debacle. At this point, I am hoping Steve McNair gets injured or retires. He is just atrocious to watch.[/quote McNair is beyond atrocious Boz--and if I were a Ravens player-I'd go to Billick and demand they not play him--he not only is garbage-he doesn't care--which is more embarrassing at this point of his career. I've never thought much of him as a QB, but I thought he had toughness and cared about the game. He's done. Comes off field after coughing up the ball--nobody is around him, he sits and looks as if he'd rather be anywhere but on a FB field. Disgusting. Ray Lewis is a joke--and shows why any team who builds around a MLB is beyond retarded. Middle Linebacker is the most overrated position in football. If you have a good DL, your MLB should make plays. The only LB's I would pay if I were a GM would be OLB in a 3-4 or speed guys on outside in 4-3--ala Derrick Brooks/Lance Briggs who can play run and cover or could when Brooks was younger. Ray Lewis has gotten paid, is the leader, has his "boy" as his chosen QB--and what has it done for Ravens? If McNair was a complete tool--the Ravens beat Colts last year in Playoffs. He should've been replaced after last year. Now he's a disgrace to the sport and to anyone who is competitive. I just feel for Raven fans--they now have Billick aka 7th Heaven Dad, McNair the loser, and Ray "How does anyone get fired up when I do the SAME dance and "Any Dogs in the House" Lewis. If they kept Jamal Lewis this team would be competing with Rams and Dolphins.
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Post by hifigator on Nov 6, 2007 12:43:46 GMT -5
Boz, I feel for you. That was an embarrassment. It takes all of the fun out Monday Night Football when one team dominates like that.
One side note of interest: we are not very good pickers in NFL games. A friend of mine and I bet $5 on each Monday night game. We alternate who picks first, but one person will pick either the team or the total of his choice and then the other person will choose the other options. Last night my friend went first and took the under. The game was over by halftime. Not to be "outdone," I took Baltimore and the points. Needless to say that was a stinker too. That is the fourth or fifth time that has happened this season, where we both pick the wrong side.
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Post by Elvado on Nov 6, 2007 13:06:12 GMT -5
You and your friends sound like a regular Algonquin Round Table.
Your side note is of no interest to anyone with an IQ above 3.
Go away. Far, far away.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 6, 2007 13:15:39 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Nov 11, 2007 17:36:03 GMT -5
i REALLY hate the cowboys. a team full of punks. patrick crayton maybe being the biggest.
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Post by vcjack on Nov 11, 2007 21:05:54 GMT -5
Sexy Rexy makes his triumphant return for da Bears and stays true to the "Edited it I'm throwing deep" school of football, only this time against pitiful Oakland's backup secondary
In other Bears related news Cedrick Benson stays true to the "keep your eyes on the ground and run into the line of scrimage" philosophy but Hester diverts from the "run foward" theory to the "dance around and try and shake the coverage team" ideology
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 12, 2007 19:25:53 GMT -5
After last night, it would appear that Belichick and Pioli made the right call on Vinatieri, who seems to be fading.
Vinatieri FG 16-20; long 39; PAT 27-29 (2 blocked); kickoffs (54) avg 66.6 yds, 8 TBs, ret avg 25.3
Gostkowski FG 11-12; long 49; PAT 46-46; kickoffs (66) avg 66.5 yds, 14 TBs, ret avg 22.1
Gostkowski's kickoffs are routinely deep into the end zone - something Vinatieri has never been able to do with any consistency. If Vinatieri loses his ability to hit the game winner (and last night's attempt was a chip shot for him)... ...of course, he is still far more reliable for the Colts than his predecessor.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 13, 2007 17:13:25 GMT -5
LOL. Buff, the two of them were crucified by those adoring blinded to reality Patriots fans when they did not sign Vinatieri. But then, you would have been blissfully unaware of that since you were an Eagle then.
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Post by Boz on Nov 14, 2007 13:25:50 GMT -5
LOL. Buff, the two of them were crucified by those adoring blinded to reality Patriots fans when they did not sign Vinatieri. But then, you would have been blissfully unaware of that since you were an Eagle then. Ouch. I'm all for making jokes at Buffalo's expense, but that is low, Dan. I guess Kitty can scratch!
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 14, 2007 17:37:09 GMT -5
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 18, 2007 23:48:32 GMT -5
Pats run up the score again with Eckel, Evans and Cassel. Oh, and they punted from the Bills 31 yard line. What poor sports.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 19, 2007 8:34:47 GMT -5
Pats run up the score again with Eckel, Evans and Cassel. Oh, and they punted from the Bills 31 yard line. What poor sports. Yeah, Belichick is still a edited. You can pick less lockerroom language to express the same opinion. Do it next time.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Nov 19, 2007 9:14:48 GMT -5
Pats run up the score again with Eckel, Evans and Cassel. Oh, and they punted from the Bills 31 yard line. What poor sports. So are you saying that you don't think they were running up the score previously. Or are you picking the one time they weren't Editeds to make some point. Just enjoy the most impressive run/team in NFL history without being so defensive. Who cares if they were cheating or running up scores.
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