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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 1, 2005 16:31:48 GMT -5
Well, I had to take a week off from this thread after the 'Horns' showing against the Aggies last Friday. However, the overall series still belongs firmly in Texas' grasp, 73-34-5. More importantly, the Longhorns are still on track for Pasadena.
I'd like to offer my congratulations to the Aggie fans gloating on other threads: you've lost six in a row in the series, won't be bowling, and had to axe your defensive coordinator, but you can still get excited over a loss. My question is: when will you be changing the lyrics to your fight song? I mean, after the last two seasons maybe Baylor is turning into y'all's biggest rival. I'll be waiting for the hackneyed "Aggieland has more tradition" response.
On to other things. Once again, the conference championship games stink. Colorado and Fla. State are on life support, yet we're supposed to tune in for the Big XII and ACC broadcasts? Georgia v. LSU in the Overrated Bowl might interest me somewhat if it's competitive, but I'll probably spend primetime studying for finals. I'll probably tune in for parts of Army-Navy, traditionalist that I am, but I usually can't watch the whole thing. I can't see anyone tuning in for even part of the Conference USA championship game between UCF and Tulsa.
A lot of people are picking USC to blow out UCLA in the Coliseum. I think it the Trojans will win, but not cover the spread, and both squads will score 40+ in a shootout. Hell, USC might score 60+ unless the Bruins found a defense in the off week.
In the Nobody Probably Cares but Me category we have former Arkansas RB Ken Hatfield retiring as Head Coach at Rice. Perhaps the option is now officially dead? Rice football may officially be dead soon too -- the University has kicked around axing the program or dropping to I-AA for quite a while now. Hard to believe the Owls were once a legit SWC program.
KU's upset of Iowa State not only got the Jayhawks bowl-eligible, it means the Big XII will actually be able to send teams to each of its eight bowl tie-ins this year. Which means I will probably see the Jayhawks in the Fort Worth Bowl on Dec. 23. Next step: find seats with a view of the field unobstructed by Mark Mangino.
Watched the very end of the 1996 Texas-Nebraska Big XII championship game on Classic yesterday afternoon. As time was winding down, Musberger exclaimed, "Well partner, it looks like we will have a new national champion this year!" Little did Brent know...
Predictions for this week: zero upsets, favorites all win.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 1, 2005 19:50:09 GMT -5
The only view of a Kansas game unobstructed by B. F. Mangino would be from the Goodyear blimp.
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Post by RDF on Dec 2, 2005 0:12:37 GMT -5
Florida State will play Va Tech tough simply because Marcus Vick SUCKS--he's friggin awful and no matter how down FSU is, they can stop the run if you are one dimensional and Va Tech is--for Tech to blow them out, they'll have to force turnovers and that could very well happen but I have a strange feeling that FSU either upsets Tech or plays a very tight game and this comes from someone who thinks FSU is run by a careless over the hill man who is so selfish about that all time record he won't step down.
USC's had a ton of injuries this year--and mainly on Defensive Side of the ball--they are really banged up, but if you honestly see this game as close, I'd point out that UCLA is HIGHLY overrated. I think Trojans could hang 60 on these guys and only thing saving that potential is that it's a rivalry game and UCLA has had 3 weeks to prepare--so maybe they will be fresh and would have worked on tackling.
Big XII Football--YAWN---sorry Austin but that game blows. I'd rather watch paint dry then Texas destroy a team who is so inept Bill Callahan and Huskers beat them by 27 points in Boulder with Big XII Title Appearance on the line. That isn't taking a shot at Texas either--just the yawner that lies ahead in Houston, due to Buffs and inept Big XII North.
I like the LSU-UGA matchup and yet whomever wins is the 2nd best team behind Auburn who is SEC's best team at this time. I think UGA deserves a pass for the Florida game due to playing without DJ Shockley and they lost to Auburn who is playing some great ball right now--so that's no disgrace. I think UGA and Auburn are among top 6 teams in Country this year.
Austin, I wouldn't feel bad about Horns performance against A&M--that happens to every team during a year and it's how you do against the elite teams that defines your season--not how close you win against everyone else--as long as you win, nothing to be ashamed about. In fact, that game and most of OU-A&M game made me wonder why Aggies wasted time with that team CANCER Reggie McNeal at QB???
Good luck to you on Saturday and just ticked that Canes CHOKED against Tech (nothing to be taken from them, they kicked butt) and couldn't repay FSU the beating they deserve--now I have a sick feeling Bowden will make this game tougher then it would've been against Canes who would've put that old man in his misery and forced him to Smurf Bowl out in Boise! ;D
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 2, 2005 14:49:30 GMT -5
Agree with you on Marcus Vick. It must have annoyed the hell out of you (because it certainly annoyed the hell out of me) when the ESPN announcers continued to say "This isn't the Marcus Vick we've seen before" throughout the Miami-VT game. The only other Va. Tech game I watched this season was against Maryland, and Vick almost gave the game away against a non-bowl-eligible team. I think this is certainly a case where the hype has been better than the advertised product, and the fact that he hasn't been mentioned in the Heisman race since the preseason is additional proof.
I agree the CU-Texas game will be a yawner, even if it's close, and I know because I attempted to watch the CU-Nebraska snoozer last weekend.
I watched McGee and the Aggies against OU, too, and thought he looked good running the ball. (Didn't actually see him in the Texas game -- I was forced to listen to the game on radio in post-Thanksgiving transit from Lubbock to Fort Worth.) Still remains to be seen if the kid can pass -- he didn't throw very well against either OU or Texas. But he definitely got the Ag's fired up, and maybe that's all they needed. Aggies need more players like him on the other side of the ball next season, too. First thing the new D-Coordinator should do is revive the "Wrecking Crew" nickname/tradition on defense, which I'm pretty sure Fran and Torbush dumped.
FWIW, you know I'm not a big Miami fan, but I'm a little disappointed they won't get a chance to play for a BCS bowl, too, as they are the best team in the ACC, IMO. Hopefully they'll schedule that FSU game later in the season in years to come, since that's what truly hurt the 'Canes. Not going to say Va. Tech will disappoint the conference in their BCS bowl just yet: I think they could win a rematch with WVU or beat LSU/UGA. But if they get PSU, as the talking heads are predicting...look out.
On Texas, I'm not really too disappointed in the way they won last weekend (see gloating directed at A&M fans above). What's especially comforting to me is that once again, the players stepped up and made BIG PLAYS when the outcome was still in question. That is what has gotten it done for the 'Horns all season -- individuals making great plays on the field. Typically it's been Vince Young, but a lot of defensive players (Rod Wright, Michael Griffin, Michael Huff, etc.) have made big plays, too. Still feeling good going into the national championship (knock on wood), since Texas has the best defense USC will have seen all season, and the Trojans haven't played a single team with a mobile QB. It'll be interesting to see how Drew runs this weekend. If he gets his yards (as I expect) then that bodes well for the Texas running attack, too. UT's backs aren't as talented but we've got a better O-Line. And Vince has been saying "I want to play 'em" all season long -- 'Horns will be up for Jan. 4. By they way, Vegas is already taking bets on the game: The Trojans are a 7 point favorite.
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Post by RDF on Dec 2, 2005 15:40:00 GMT -5
LOL at your notice of Bob Davie obsessed with telling us all that "Marcus Vick isn't this bad, he's just...." all game. Really? The guy stinks. He's a 5'11 strong armed kid that has no clue on how to read a defense and has no touch on his passes either. He'll be on spot tomorrow night as FSU's got a marginal Secondary but they can stop the run if that is all you can do--and Tech is vastly overrated--totally agree with you on fact they'll get whacked in BCS Game. Their offense sucks. Good WR talent but average RB's and terrible QB.
Miami deserves it's fate--Grandpa Clappy (Coker) can't get this team to listen to him it seems and they lose focus. His mis-use of Devin Hester is mind boggling and hopefully he'll wake up and realize he needs to be used as a Utility Offensive Player and not on Defense. I'm biased but agree that Miami is best team in ACC but had chances to show it on field and stunk. So got the fate they deserved.
USC faced Stanback the QB at Washington and he gave them some problems and notoriously they struggle with mobile QB's. Stanback might not be great, but he played a decent game against SC when I watched.
Any team is beatable--this myth that someone is invincible is annoying. Key is who wins line of scrimmage battle and turnovers. USC is one of the finest offensive teams I've seen and if you look at their close games, they've turned it over or they'd have likely scored 50 on ND and ASU. They cough it up, and Texas has shot to beat them--however Texas NEVER sees passing offensive attack like they present in Big XII and their OL is best in Country--USC is vastly underrated along offensive/defensive lines--they are big and physical inside.
Colorado is boring--whether they win/lose and it was most boring Miami game I watched this year--just call it "Barnett Ball". Good luck beating their heads in tomorrow--you won't need it, but you know where I'm coming from.
I think Auburn would beat anyone outside of USC/Texas right now and they would really give both of those teams a tough game--they are playing some great football right now. Funny but I'd love to see Miami-Auburn play in Bowl game but because of these damn "tie-ins" with conferences, it's not able to happen.
Just can't wait for tomorrow--CFB and Hoyas Hoops, a perfect day for me!
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Post by FLHoya on Dec 2, 2005 17:34:46 GMT -5
FWIW, you know I'm not a big Miami fan, but I'm a little disappointed they won't get a chance to play for a BCS bowl, too, as they are the best team in the ACC, IMO. Hopefully they'll schedule that FSU game later in the season in years to come, since that's what truly hurt the 'Canes. Nope. Next year's game is the night of Labor Day again on ESPN this time. What a waste too--those first week of October games in the 80s/early 90s/2000 and 2002 were epic. RDF, agree with you completely on Hester (who went to my HS), although there was an article in the Palm Beach Post while I was home on Thanksgiving break saying Coker was going to have a talk with Devin in the offseason and is, in fact, going to move him to offense full-time next season. Remember last year when he, you know, did stuff? (You've been killing me all year with the Grandpa Clappy stuff by the way, I've noticed that since he started as the HC but I never had a name for it! I'd really love to have seen his reaction to the 7th Floor Crew song.) Lots of depressing type articles while I was home about the loss of swagger, too many home losses the last three seasons in big games, how everyone in the program's Editeded, how everyone wants Dan Werner's head on a spike. Although Kyle Wright could stop playing like the guy he resembles--Justin Timberlake--once in a while or at least get some protection. Losing Tyrone Moss was HUGE too, b/c in the GT and VA games Charlie Jones was giving them almost nothing and it was incredibly uncreative play calling on top of that. And the scary part is, Miami was about a 1:30 from playing Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl, which I would have taken in a second. Except...you know...nobody in the PAC-10's ever heard of defense. I wasn't sure if you could top the "blah" factor of the Peach Bowl vs. Florida who had already quit on the season, but Gator Bowl vs. Louisville without their QB might just do it. Hey, least they get to play in Jacksonville.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 2, 2005 18:05:45 GMT -5
Nope. Next year's game is the night of Labor Day again on ESPN this time. What a waste too--those first week of October games in the 80s/early 90s/2000 and 2002 were epic. That's really dumb. It's tough to expect any team to perform at a high level in it's first game of the season. This season's game resulted in: 1) A loss by the better team, which eventually kept that team out of a BCS bowl 2) Bad publicity for both teams because of the low level of play 3) Probably a lower than normal viewing audience because people have better things to do on Labor Day. 4) Ranking inflation for FSU, which lingered in the Top Ten longer than it should have. Mid-October is the second-best time of year for a rivalry after late November/early December (see also: Texas-Oklahoma, Tennessee-Alabama). Why would you eliminate the build-up to a rivalry game over the first month of the season, and risk your team's entire season at the same time? Doesn't make sense to me. Lots of depressing type articles while I was home about the loss of swagger, too many home losses the last three seasons in big games, how everyone in the program's Editeded, how everyone wants Dan Werner's head on a spike. Although Kyle Wright could stop playing like the guy he resembles--Justin Timberlake--once in a while or at least get some protection. Losing Tyrone Moss was HUGE too, b/c in the GT and VA games Charlie Jones was giving them almost nothing and it was incredibly uncreative play calling on top of that. Interesting that people in S. Florida are getting that worked up. Miami will be fine. Y'all still recruit the most athletic players in the state and beyond -- just need to use them properly on the field, as you both have pointed out.
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Post by RDF on Dec 3, 2005 10:54:14 GMT -5
FL Hoya, you are a Riviera Beach guy? Good to hear. How was Hester in HS?? Hear he's a decent guy but not the sharpest tool in the shed. Needless to say he is one heck of a talent and if he could harness that into one position, he'd be a top 5 pick in NFL Draft at some point. Coker saying he'll be a RB/WR ala Reggie Bush is comical when you consider Coker spent 3 years on saying he needed to "preserve" Devin and for what?? So we could see Lance Leggett drop passes, or our grind it out running game come up short in big games?
Glad you enjoy the "Grandpa Clappy" moniker but I can't take credit for that one--a group effort by those of us who think Coker is too nice/easy on the team. I do agree with your take on Tyrone Moss' absence hurting team but I think it's Dan Werner's play calling. He was far too predictable and also thought CJ Johnson the Wr Coach isn't holding his own--his group is plenty talented but have far too many drops/mistakes as a unit.
Playing Louisville without Brohm at QB will be worthless in Bowl Game and only give team false bravado heading into next year's game with them--when they'll have Brohm. If it was any other Coach at UM I'd not worry but Clappy will not have the kid's attention on that and they'll take them lightly.
As for tonight's ACC Title Game--what's over/under on how many times this is mentioned
1. "Beamer Ball"--YUCK--and pay attention to fact that any team VT plays FSU Tech's special teams absolutely BLOW--in National Title Game FSU scored on a Blocked Punt and Peter WArrick Punt Return and in a 46-29 game, those 14 pts came in handy wouldn't you say?
2. Bowden Chaos--Jeff under fire as OC, Bobby ticked at people attacking Jeff, and "tonight" being their chance at retribution--especially if they play close/pull the upset. Whatever announcer is calling game will say "Weatherford's only a RS FR...and they lost Sexton before the season to his drug use.. I mean Lyme's Disease, and the talented Xavier Lee is going to be...." and it'll be annoying.
3. Marcus/Michael Vick "comparisons". I can solve this now--Michael was a great College Player, Marcus is average to below average--any questions?
4. Bowden will be called a "Riverboat Gambler" as all coaches who at one time called a trick play are and then his team will follow Universal Code for Coaches who used Trick Plays and are lauded for it by NOT doing anything remotely creative.
5. They'll show that damn lunch pail Beamer has his team's best defensive player carry around and Sideline Reporter will have a clever line about it.
Here's to a decent game tonight but count me as one who will be numb to these sure to be happenings as TV coverage is so lame it's not funny.
One last thing--whatever game Brent Musburger is calling we'll have to hear about "Watch # he's a player the NFL Scouts are drooling about......"--doesn't matter where he'll be--the NFL and future is always brought up and at a time that doesn't make any sense--for instanace "There's Vince Young back to pass, he rolls right, scrambles back to the left, and he's off...........Young hurdles 3 guys, and is taken down at the Buff 35 yard line--which brings me to tell you that Mason Crosby, the extraordinary Kicker for Colorado is a guy the NFL is LOVING...." WTH???
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Post by RDF on Dec 4, 2005 3:43:30 GMT -5
Congrats Austin--and looking forward to that game, should be a big time atmosphere and a ton of firepower on the field. As for the day itself, went according to how I envisioned it (see above ) and the ACC game just sickens my stomach as damn near every aspect came to reality although VT did show some fight which I doubted they had. They remind me of Big 8 teams in '80's and how they would lay an egg any time they faced a team with speed/quickness and that is how Tech plays now, they are this era's Big 8 one dimensional, good, but highly overhyped team. Now the AARP Bowl will be a Reality--Bowden and Paterno and any truth to rumor they will dig holes in ground of Joe Robbie to prepare for the possibility these guys both kick the bucket on the field? Just kidding all of you FSU/PSU fans but I admit I'm pulling for Joe Pa all the way in this game. Any way Big XII talks of eliminating the "Divisional" approach to their Championship Game? These are almost always LAUGHERS and today was a disgrace to anyone who considers themselve a competitor. Colorado should fire Barnett for this late season debacle and this is even worse then what allegedly happened there and what did happen there the past few years. CU is a good job too, so they can find takers. I have to keep telling a lot of my fellow Cane fans that USC is MUCH BETTER than people give them credit for--they are type of team who can take their game up a level and tend to play to level of competition. Also they have been banged up severely on defense and when you give Pete Carroll time to prepare for one opponent he's OUTSTANDING. That's where his NFL background helps him a great deal and he/his staff are very good in that aspect and unparalleled when it's "in game" adjustments too. It's embarrassing to see them and then have to watch Grandpa Clappy run into 9 man fronts until his last possession of the game. Again, congrats to you Austin, and enjoy the Month off before the BEST BOWL OF THEM ALL---ROSE BOWL! Nothing like it and it's what CFB Bowls are all about in my opinion.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 4, 2005 5:42:12 GMT -5
Wow, RDF, I'm going to hire you as my consultant next season if I decide to bet on college football. Or maybe I'll start my own tout service and guarantee 120% winners.
I can't believe that Penn State is going to have to play the worst Florida State team in at least 20 years in a BCS game. Way to stink up the joint, Va Tech.
I'm really looking forward to the Rose Bowl this year, and I only hope the game lives up to the hype that we will all have to endure for the next month. Reggie Bush is unreal. There was an article in the LA Times this week in which two unnamed NFL scouts evaluated the talent level of the Trojans and Bruins. I don't have to say how it came out (duh), but both scouts said that Bush is one of the best running backs they had ever seen. One said that in all his years of scouting, the only running backs he had seen who were even in Bush's league were Barry Sanders and Bo Jackson. He has to be a cinch for the Heisman.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 4, 2005 12:07:32 GMT -5
Let me get my hype machine started up here...
If the score is close, and especially if Texas wins, this Rose Bowl may go down as one of the greatest ever. Here's why:
1. Top 3 Heisman vote getters square off.
2. The #4 all time winningest program (BTW, UT'll probably overtake Nebraska for #3 next season, and Horns are gaining on Notre Dame) against #10. Two programs dripping in traditon playing in the bowl with the most tradition.
3. A 34 game winning streak or a 19 game winning streak will end.
4. USC has the opportunity to threepeat, something which has never been done in the modern era of college football.
5. California vs. Texas. The world's 5th largest economy takes on the world's 8th. Barbeque vs. carrot juice. Surfers vs. cowboys. Corrupt state government vs. inept state government (although lately Texas' has arguably been both). These two states, more than any others, have shaped the popular conception of America. And we don't like each other that much. And our high school football is better than theirs. I'm tired of hearing from idiots from CA who don't actually follow HS football about how great Mater Dei is. Converse-Judson before the state broke it up would have beat them down Texas-Colorado style. Since Matt Leinart is Mater Dei's old QB, I would consider a TX win a convincing argument for HS football supremacy.
6. Images are at stake: Texas plays the role of the underachieving big program, USC the role of The Invincible Scarlet and Gold. Texas is playing to shed its image, USC to preserve its image.
7. The BCS system worked! It's possible this could be the last time it does before the system is scrapped. More likely it's the last time it happens before 108 minute changes are made to the BCS formula.
That's all I've got right now. Need to get back to writing law school essays but I'll be back to blather some more later.
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Post by Joe Hoya on Dec 4, 2005 15:24:20 GMT -5
Wait, so Barry Sanders and Bo Jackson are Bush League?
I hate the BCS because without it, Penn State would get to play USC and I want to see that, "But Texas is better" arguments be damned. That'd still be a great game, an unstoppable force (the Trojan offense) against a relatively immovable object in the PSU defense. And hearing Keith Jackson (you just KNOW he will do the Rose Bowl) try to say "Posluszny"...dammit Colorado, why do you suck?
Oh well, I think the Orange Metamucil Bowl is the next best thing - PSU very likely to go 11-1 and finish #2 in the polls, and JoePa gains one more win on that bum Bowden.
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Post by nychoya3 on Dec 4, 2005 16:16:01 GMT -5
How do you figure Penn State should get to play USC without the BCS? Not to take anything away from Penn State, but Texas earned that slot, BCS or not. I'd like to see PSU against USC, but I'm psyched to see Texas against USC too. No way is anyone stopping USC's offense though. Reggie Bush is basically superman in shoulder pads.
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 4, 2005 16:29:41 GMT -5
He said "would", not "should". And PSU would play USC if there wasn't a BCS, b/c the Rose Bowl would still feature the Big 10 Champ and the Pac 10 champ
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 5, 2005 17:15:19 GMT -5
Bowl Picks:
New Orleans: Southern Miss over Arkansas State
GMAC: UTEP over Toledo
Las Vegas: Cal over BYU
Poinsettia: Navy over Colorado St.
Fort Worth: Kansas over Houston
Hawaii: Nevada over UCF
Motor City: Akron over Memphis
Champs Sports: Clemson over Colorado
Insight: Rutgers !!!! over Arizona State. (Okay, so I don't really think Rutgers is going to win but I have to pick the team that has NEVER, ever, won a bowl game. And they've been playing this sport longer than anyone else save Princeton.)
MPC Computers: Boise State over BC
Alamo: Nebraska over Michigan in a big upset
Emerald: Georgia Tech over Utah
Holiday: Oklahoma over Oregon
Music City: Minnesota over UVA
Sun: Northwestern over UCLA
Independence: South Carolina over Mizzou
Peach: Miami over LSU
Meineke Car Care: S. Florida over NC State
Liberty: Fresno State regroups, beats Tulsa
Houston: TCU over Iowa State
Cotton: Texas Tech over 'Bama
Outback (aka Hall of Fame): Iowa over Florida
Gator: Va. Tech over Louisville in a blowout
Citrus: Auburn over Wisconsin (sorry Barry). By the way, I'm calling it the Citrus Bowl because if you look at a map of Orlando you won't find the Capital One Bowl anywhere, but you will find the Citrus Bowl. UCF plays its home games in the Citrus Bowl, not the Capital One Bowl. I think this is the only bowl that has adopted a corporate sponsor where the name of the stadium remains the name of the old bowl. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
BCS:
Fiesta: Ohio State over Notre Dame
Sugar: West Virginia shocks UGA
Orange: Penn State over Fla. State in a close one
Rose: Texas snaps the streak on a FG with time expiring, just like last year in Pasadena.
By the way, I'm trying to get as many tickets as possible to the Rose Bowl. Anyone interested in paying me big bucks for a ticket send me a PM.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Dec 11, 2005 1:05:45 GMT -5
Any thoughts on the Heisman?
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 12, 2005 19:21:25 GMT -5
My general thought on the Heisman is that the voters can't decide what criteria to use to select the winner. Some of the voters like senior leadership (Eric Crouch, Jason White), while others like flash (Rex Grossman and Larry Fitzgerald were the runners up to those two winners). Sometimes the voters stress that they picked "the player most important to his team." If that were the case this year, Michael Robinson might have won the Heisman, and Bush/Leinart would have been penalized for playing on a team with tons of talent. What constitutes the "best player in college football" is really a fluid thing that changes from year to year.
The other thing I don't like about the Heisman is that it seems nobody on a mid-major can get much credit when it comes to Heisman voting. TCU's LaDanian Tomlinson finished fourth in the voting his senior year, Fresno State's David Carr 5th, Alex Smith 4th. Smith clearly had more athletic talent (which seemed to be the major focus in this year's voting) than the third place finisher, Jason White. So why didn't Smith get more votes? Or why didn't those same voters vote for Leinart over VY and Reggie Bush this season?
I will say that Bush is electric, and I have no problem with him winning. And I'm looking forward to seeing how the Texas defense does against him -- always want to test yourself against the best.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 12, 2005 20:25:52 GMT -5
The Heisman criteria are whatever the voters want them to be in any particular season. I'm not saying that sarcastically; it's just the way things are.
Occasionally a player is so spectacular that all other factors just fall by the wayside. Like Jim Brown (oh, he didn't win? scratch that). I think that's what happened this season. I hope Vince Young sticks around another year so he can win it next year. Unless, of course, Booty steps in as the new USC quarterback and throws 150 touchdown passes.
By the way, Austin, I acknowledge this is picking a nit, but Jason White won as a junior, not a senior. He didn't win due to senior leadership, but due to compiling mind-boggling numbers (didn't he have something like 3,500 yards passing, with 40 TD's and 3 picks? that's probably well off, but I just recall it was something ridiculous).
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 12, 2005 23:05:58 GMT -5
The Heisman criteria are whatever the voters want them to be in any particular season. I'm not saying that sarcastically; it's just the way things are. Occasionally a player is so spectacular that all other factors just fall by the wayside. Like Jim Brown (oh, he didn't win? scratch that). I think that's what happened this season. I hope Vince Young sticks around another year so he can win it next year. Unless, of course, Booty steps in as the new USC quarterback and throws 150 touchdown passes. By the way, Austin, I acknowledge this is picking a nit, but Jason White won as a junior, not a senior. He didn't win due to senior leadership, but due to compiling mind-boggling numbers (didn't he have something like 3,500 yards passing, with 40 TD's and 3 picks? that's probably well off, but I just recall it was something ridiculous). Yeah, you're right, he won it as a junior and did have ridiculous numbers. I can't remember the # of TDs, but I know it was a school record at OU. My bad.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 27, 2005 14:32:28 GMT -5
Interesting opinion from Dan Wetzel on USC's possible threepeat: sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AoUB1CAYQtkeaqxQ96YM8U8cvrYF?slug=dw-usc3peat122205&prov=yhoo&type=lgnsThis has been my opinion for a while, too, and I've had some fun arguments with some USC alums I know on this subject. What Wetzel doesn't add, maybe out of loyalty to his media brethren, is that the AP voters had a conflict of interest when they voted for USC as No. 1. With this vote, the sportswriters were allowed to effectively determine the future of college football. The vote could have been viewed as: if you want the AP poll to go back to being important, then vote for USC. If you want to be merely a part of a dumb formula that the NCAA made up, vote for LSU. If you would like to write stories on how messed up the college football system is ALL FREAKIN' SEASON in the coming years, then vote for USC. If you want everyone to agree the BCS is the best system out there, vote for LSU. If you just plain don't like the BCS, or think the coaches who vote in their poll are dumb, or think the computers are dumber, vote for USC and stick it to the BCS. If not, vote for LSU. I'd also note that before the final polls came out, ESPN & friends were hyping the possibility that the AP voters could revolt, and all the "good things" that would come with such a revolt, like this playoff system that "everyone" wants. Now, the fact that this situation arose at all was the fault of the BCS and its computer polls, which picked OU over the Trojans. But the way the cards fell, I think a lot of AP voters were voting for more than just the best team in the land. I think that at least some voters voted mainly for the AP poll to be important, and then those same voters and their editors backed up the vote in newspapers nationwide by declaring a split national championship.
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