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Post by vcjack on Jul 26, 2007 19:41:13 GMT -5
My comment: the guards are embarrassing!!! Must be self-internal jelousy I gaurentee that hoyaeighties is writhing in fury. Next thing you know Jay Wright will be getting "i know where you work u rascist hataa!!!!!!!" emails But seriously doesn't anyone know how to lob a pass to a guy that is almost A FOOT taller than his defenders?
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Post by prhoya on Jul 26, 2007 19:42:35 GMT -5
NO, IT'S SCOTTIE COACHED BY WRIGHT!!!!
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Post by prhoya on Jul 26, 2007 19:43:50 GMT -5
Silver lining: We will never lose a tall recruit to Wright... just show them a tape of this game.
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Post by sleepy on Jul 26, 2007 19:45:37 GMT -5
Hibbert 19 points 9 rebounds 2 blocks ( i thought he had a lot more blocked shots) High Scorer
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Post by prhoya on Jul 26, 2007 19:48:36 GMT -5
One more comment: the Canaleros were toying with the USA guards. Since they realized that Roy was not going to get the ball from the perimeter, they started guarding the perimeter and shut down any offense from outside. The blame lies on Wright for not controlling his guards and for players not executing when they had easy baskets.
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Post by vcjack on Jul 26, 2007 19:50:19 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Jul 26, 2007 19:50:59 GMT -5
Hibbert 19 points 9 rebounds 2 blocks ( i thought he had a lot more blocked shots) High Scorer Not many opportunities... the Canaleros were hitting their outside shots in the 4th quarter and the USA guards were not defending properly.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 26, 2007 19:53:06 GMT -5
IMO the commentator correctly analyzed that the USA lacked a "classic" point guard.
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Post by sleepy on Jul 26, 2007 19:53:07 GMT -5
He had atleast two on one possesion in the first half, and i remember ATLEAST one in the second. I know he had more that just two blocked shots.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 26, 2007 19:56:47 GMT -5
Argentina will probably win tomorrow against USA. IF that happens and the USA goes home winless, I guarantee you that it will never send college players to future events like this one.
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Post by Locker on Jul 26, 2007 19:57:42 GMT -5
By the way, I hope y'all realize that # 6 on Panama who embarassed the USA perimeter players to the tune of 23 points and 5 assists was...Danilo Pinnock of WG.
Decent job by Roy and D.J. White (who got in foul trouble thanks to Panamanian flopping -- felt bad for him). Terrible performances by Reynolds and Weaver (our starting wings), who combined for a grand total of 1 point and 3 assists.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 26, 2007 20:00:25 GMT -5
Wayne Ellington did not get one minute? Is this Wright's payback for Ellington choosing UNC?
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Post by Locker on Jul 26, 2007 20:02:22 GMT -5
Argentina will probably win tomorrow against USA. IF that happens and the USA goes home winless, I guarantee you that it will never send college players to future events like this one. I don't think that's right. The big international tournament for USA basketball this summer is the FIBA Americas one next month. There's no way to send NBA players to both, I don't think. Note that the other Pan Am Games teams don't have their full complement of NBA players, either. By the way, given the number of international tournaments this summer (more than the usual number), we're sending the Northern Iowa hoops team to compete as Team USA in the World University Games next month: unipanthers.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/040607aaa.html
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Post by prhoya on Jul 26, 2007 20:05:04 GMT -5
Wayne Ellington did not get one minute? Is this Wright's payback for Ellington choosing UNC? Wright is losing his luster (remember, Dukie V named him to the "Dickie V's All-GQ coaching super six" - I still maintain Dukie V. is gay! No one can get as excited over young male hs players)!
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Post by prhoya on Jul 26, 2007 20:10:12 GMT -5
Argentina will probably win tomorrow against USA. IF that happens and the USA goes home winless, I guarantee you that it will never send college players to future events like this one. I don't think that's right. The big international tournament for USA basketball this summer is the FIBA Americas one next month. There's no way to send NBA players to both, I don't think. Note that the other Pan Am Games teams don't have their full complement of NBA players, either. I don't think that's right. Do you really think that the USA will send a team of college players to the PanAms in 2011 and risk this kind of showing and ridicule? If I was USA basketball, I would have sent a B team of NBA players who couldn't make the 12 players going to FIBA Americas. Long gone is the time when college players could win these tournaments. The world has caught up.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 26, 2007 20:10:19 GMT -5
By the way, I hope y'all realize that # 6 on Panama who embarassed the USA perimeter players to the tune of 23 points and 5 assists was...Danilo Pinnock of WG. Proves my point. Pinnock is a good player and a hell of an athlete but if he was playing for GW going up against some of these guards on their college teams he would not dominate them this badly. But he has played for the Panama team before and I'm guessing he has played with some of his current teammates before too. They are familair with each other and they know their roles (like who is the go-to guy). That's why an international player who can barely amke an NBA team could outscore the likes of an Iverson, Marbury, Wade, etc in 2004. That international player has spent much more time with his national team, has played with his national teamamtes before in international competition and has more of a grasp of what his role is. But bring him to the NBA and AI, Marbury and Wade, who all know their roles on their NBA teams, are very familiar with their NBA teammates and have a certain comfort level in such a setting, would dominate that international player. Hell, Paul Gasol was three times the player Tim Duncan was in the 2004 Olympics thanks to in part the refs (Duncan was called for ridiculous fouls) but also because of Gasol's role with Team Spain and the time he had put in with them. But when it comes to NBA time Duncan is easily the superior player.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 26, 2007 20:15:30 GMT -5
Argentina will probably win tomorrow against USA. IF that happens and the USA goes home winless, I guarantee you that it will never send college players to future events like this one. I don't think that's right. The big international tournament for USA basketball this summer is the FIBA Americas one next month. There's no way to send NBA players to both, I don't think. Note that the other Pan Am Games teams don't have their full complement of NBA players, either. One correction...some teams like Argentina, Brazil maybe Puerto Rico are not sending all of their best. But other teams in this tournament are. Interesting. People have always discussed sending the NBA champion or a top NBA (or even college) team to play in these international games because those guys would have a better familiarity with each other over the All Star roster types of teams. Sending Northern Iowa is an example of this. But why them? Surely more high profile programs would have jumped at the opportunity to get the early "practice".
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Post by prhoya on Jul 26, 2007 20:19:22 GMT -5
MCI, I think is more the pride of wearing the national shirt. I'm not saying that USA players don't have it to the same level. But, if a team like Argentina or Spain wins the Olympics, they are heroes at home and the WHOLE country celebrates them as such and maybe the government declares a holiday to receive its heroes (like Argentina did).
If the USA wins, 1) it was expected, 2) good for the players, 3) what's going on in swimming, 4) did Paris get arrested again, 5) someone in the Midwest asks what is the Olympics, etc...
What I'm saying is that it means something different to the other players and countries and they play their heart out.
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Post by Locker on Jul 26, 2007 20:22:32 GMT -5
I don't think that's right. The big international tournament for USA basketball this summer is the FIBA Americas one next month. There's no way to send NBA players to both, I don't think. Note that the other Pan Am Games teams don't have their full complement of NBA players, either. I don't think that's right. Do you really think that the USA will send a team of college players to the PanAms in 2011 and risk this kind of showing and ridicule? If I was USA basketball, I would have sent a B team of NBA players who couldn't make the 12 players going to FIBA Americas. Long gone is the time when college players could win these tournaments. The world has caught up. I just don't think there's gonna be much, if any, in the way of actual ridicule. There's not a single American journalist who attended and wrote about last night's game, for instance. Maybe we should send the team that wins the NBDL title.
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Post by balla on Jul 26, 2007 20:27:19 GMT -5
Jay Wright should be dropped off in the jungles of Columbia.
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