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Post by 95hoya on Apr 6, 2017 9:49:35 GMT -5
Pretty sure AI talking to a recruit on the phone is a violation. Oh God we are going to have recruiting violations.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 6, 2017 7:17:14 GMT -5
We don't know what Ewing's style is truthfully. Every team claims they run NBA type offense and it's mostly true. The college game mirrors the NBA in a lot of ways.
Maybe they play a little faster. I think the biggest change is likely to come on defense.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 5, 2017 20:37:39 GMT -5
I highly doubt he asks for his release. Most teams have filled up or have a specific target in mind. It wasn't like he had offers from everybody. It's best for both sides if he remains.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 5, 2017 8:04:51 GMT -5
I think Jay had a poor choice of words. I think he questioned whether Ewing could connect with 16-17 year old kids. It falls under the umbrella of communication. It's all relative to coaching peers. Jay should choose his words more carefully, because some will look at those words and think that Ewing is some dumb, tall black athlete. You already know that stereotype exists.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 5, 2017 7:49:13 GMT -5
Kemba Walker is supporting his guy = he knows what he's talking about.
Jay Williams, also a college champion and covers CBB extensively = clueless.
Seems like you just side with whoever shares your opinion. I'm not predicting the future. I give Ewing all my support. I am just saying there are plenty or reasons to have concerns, and the basketball fraternity publicly supporting a beloved figure does not alleviate those concerns.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 5, 2017 7:44:40 GMT -5
I hope Ewing does a great job, but do comments from the media/players/coaches really sway your opinion all that much? They are predictably positive. That's usually the case anytime a coach gets hired. Especially a public figure like Pat. People are happy for him because he waited forever for an opportunity. What does Mike Lupica know about being a college head coach? Him covering the Knicks doesn't give him any insight into what kind of coach Ewing will be. A lot of the praise is coming from people outside the college game who probably haven't seen more than 5 Georgetown games over the last 5 years. Yeah, because guys like Kemba Walker didn't go to college and have no idea what is it like being a college recruit, or how Ewing communicates. Clifford, having zero college coaching experience, wouldn't know a thing, either. So you are saying Kemba Walker, who has never coached knows what kind of coach is needed to succeed at the highest levels. Then why do former players suck at coaching/managing organizations all the time. Let me know when Kemba Walker is tasked with leading a coaching search.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 5, 2017 7:39:54 GMT -5
jay Williams basically raises the recruiting question and the grind question. I've never been a NBA assistant coach, but I don't know if it's luxurious? My sense has always been it's a grind during the season which is ocrober - may / June. I think it's uninformed to question his work ethic given literally everyone that has been around him has said he has a great work ethic. I disagree with it - but it's not completely out of left field I suppose. The recruiting question about dealing with parents, AAU, agents etc. that's a fair question. I didn't think there was anything that wrong about his post. I disagree with his first point and agree the second is a question mark. I didn't get this communicative issue in what jay Williams said. And I agree that line of thinking falls into the same stereotype that typically comes up with Ewing. It's not that Ewing won't recruit hard, it's just that guys who have done it longer do it more intensely and better. It's a skill, one that Pat will have to learn on the fly. It's not a matter of doing it, but being really good. We will see how it goes.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 5, 2017 7:36:27 GMT -5
The basketball world is a fraternity. I'm sure there are those who think Ewing will do a great job. But these guys will always publicly support each other because there's no alternative. If it doesn't work out, nobody is hunting down Jeff Van Gundy on why the Ewing hire didn't pan out. Any doubts or concerns are going to be expressed behind the scenes. You just aren't going to see players/coaches poo poo on one of their guys getting rewarded with a shot. Media members are not part of that fraternity and are more likely to publicly cast doubt.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 5, 2017 7:30:16 GMT -5
I hope Ewing does a great job, but do comments from the media/players/coaches really sway your opinion all that much? They are predictably positive. That's usually the case anytime a coach gets hired. Especially a public figure like Pat. People are happy for him because he waited forever for an opportunity.
What does Mike Lupica know about being a college head coach? Him covering the Knicks doesn't give him any insight into what kind of coach Ewing will be.
A lot of the praise is coming from people outside the college game who probably haven't seen more than 5 Georgetown games over the last 5 years.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 4, 2017 22:06:32 GMT -5
That would be a solid hire. He knows the area.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 3, 2017 9:02:03 GMT -5
He's not coming. He's not waiting to see who gets hired. It's that they won't release him until a coach is hired. That's how most schools operate.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 2, 2017 21:07:30 GMT -5
This is not the kind of hire a top program makes. I've resigned myself to this. Those who handled the search handled it very poorly. You gauge interest before you fire JT3, so you know who the candidates are. We missed out on quality candidates because we waited to make a move. We had no plan, that's why it dragged on for so long.
But go ahead and spin it as a careful, thorough vetting process to find the perfect candidate.
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Post by 95hoya on Mar 30, 2017 20:17:34 GMT -5
We are underselling the challenges of this rebuild. A veteran coach like Crean or Manning with connections could quickly fill out the roster with capable bodies because of their relationships. They also can staff people who have relationships. It would be a challenge for Christian to call up a coach/trainer and say "I know we haven't been recruiting this kid, but I need players and I want this kid. A vet coach can swing that. A young coach who hasn't had to recruit or develop not even mid major talent let alone high major talent doesn't get that trust.
So you ask him to hire an experienced staff. It's going to be challenging for him to hire coaches with high major recruiting experience because does he have pre-existing relationships with those type of coaches and would they leave their jobs for this one? It would also be difficult to sell players on playing for a coach with a limited track record.
So he will need a couple years to build relationships and raise his profile. Only problem, we project to stink next year and possibly the year after that. So you have a young, inexperienced coach trying to sell the program with poor results. It's a difficult situation for a veteran coach, even worse for a young one.
Crean or Manning would stock the cupboard fairly quickly. And if they don't hack it, at least the next coach has a stronger base to build from. The cupboard is barren right now.
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Post by 95hoya on Mar 30, 2017 15:00:56 GMT -5
So I'd heard of Jamion Christian before, but didn't know much about him honestly. Knew his name was floating around. So I just read the blurb on TheSiteThatCostUsTremontWaters.com and HOT DAMN... Seriously, it made me tingle in funny places. It's the first time since 3/23 that a name besides Shaka actually had me excited at the prospects. Energy? Check Style of play? Check Clear focused program goals? Check Coaching chops? Check Do you think a Christian coached 16-17 Hoyas team finishes under 500 after reading that? SIGN ME UP NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. Seriously. If he's what he sells himself as, I could see him running this place for 40 years. Doesn't his style of play also at least give Waters pause about maybe coming back into the fold? DO IT DO IT DO IT When I say the boy has his own website, I MEAN THE BOY HAS HIS OWN WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yeah I'm sure what we lacked was motivational speaking. You guys amaze me. These quotes are great for fans, nothing else.
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Post by 95hoya on Mar 30, 2017 11:08:26 GMT -5
Sources during coaching searches are almost always unreliable. Don't believe them.
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Post by 95hoya on Mar 29, 2017 9:27:30 GMT -5
Call Danny Manning please. He would jump I would think.
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Post by 95hoya on Mar 29, 2017 9:25:15 GMT -5
FWIW - I agree that Turgeon has done a good job overall. But I am (unfortunately) close with a few medium-to-large donors at UMD, and they're not thrilled with. One texted me recently to ask if we could take Turgeon off their hands... Ha Ha! That doesn't surprise me. He is very JT3-esque in some ways. Boring, old-style offense. Enough success to be happy sometimes and be relevant nationally but doesn't seem like he'll actually do much damage in March and has completely underachieved in spots. Got some early hype with recruits but seems to be fading a little at least on the recruiting front. There's a reason he and JT3 are friends. He's sort of the Patrick Ewing theory from the NBA in that he makes them good enough to be in the middle of the pack but not bad enough to fire him and not good enough to win a championship. I like the way he recruits and the type of players he goes after. They have a really good staff. I'd be pretty happy to win 25 games while starting 3 freshmen. Maryland fans want blue blood results and they aren't that. Their model is basically Nova. Recruit a bunch of good top 50-75 types and make a run every few years. They have yet to make that run under Turgeon. Sean Miller would have turned Maryland into a perennial contender. Thank God.
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Post by 95hoya on Mar 28, 2017 22:01:52 GMT -5
All that talk about how Georgetown is a great job feels like lip service. It's either coming from guys at lower levels who view the job as a step up. Or coaches don't want to come because of JT2.
If this is a great job, there's no reason why we can't lure a head coach from another high major.
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Post by 95hoya on Mar 28, 2017 20:05:39 GMT -5
There's no guarantee Bennett would land the local talent needed to succeed. He's a system guy and those types tend to believe they can plug and play. I am not convinced he will beat out Nova and MD for local recruits.
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Post by 95hoya on Mar 28, 2017 20:00:15 GMT -5
not necessarily; i like j. christian Why, because he's an impressive speaker? We are Georgetown. We should be able to hire a coach with stronger credentials. He's a low major coach who needs to climb the ladder. It just doesn't make sense to take that risk. How can anyone say Christian would be a better hire than Crean? I would take Danny Manning over the guys mentioned as well. Give him a call please. He's been impressive in his short time.
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