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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 11, 2022 15:34:59 GMT -5
Another reminder that teenagers can be idiots. On a day the team you root for gets a top level transfer - this seemed liked the route to take? Edited. Stop insulting other posters--Admin
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 11, 2022 15:10:10 GMT -5
What are you talking about? It’s a new staff made up of a recruiting guru and Pat (and Orr?). We don’t even know who the other assistant coaches will be. I’m talking about the head coach, who oversees the coaching staff. The Another reminder that teenagers can be idiots.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 11, 2022 14:04:27 GMT -5
We've seen absolutely nothing to suggest we are using the proper channels. And, nothing to see that we're using the improper channels either, so.... *shrug* You seem have a real tendency toward presumption of guilt. I would not want you as a juror if I'm ever on trial! I'm sure in your head there's some sort of conspiracy theory along the lines of "Wade was a cheater, Wade hired Nickelberry, ergo Nickelberry is a cheater, we hired Nickelberry, ergo we are now cheaters", but there are a lot of things glossed over in that line of logic. Most especially a)Nickelberry's association with Wade does not necessarily mean he was involved in anything illegal at LSU b) Even if he was mixed up in something shady, there's no guarantee that he'll be doing the same at Georgetown, which has never had any allegations along those lines, and (most importantly) c) the rules have changed significantly since Wade's infractions. I am far from an expert on NIL, many on here probably know a lot more about it than I do. But what I do know is that it's supposedly "a free-for-all out there" in the recruiting world right now. Stuff like what Wade was doing isn't going to happen anymore, because everyone is just going to funnel money through some external entity to get it to the players as part of an NIL deal. You don't need to hand over bags of cash anymore. In the future the only people who get busted for paying players are going to be those who are too stupid or reckless to even cover their tracks. Anybody with half a brain is going to find ways to get money to players who sign without cash moving directly from coaches or schools to players. There's a middle man involved who delivers that player the same money as part of some endorsement deal. It is going to be nearly impossible for the NCAA to police. The improper channels tend to be hidden. If they used NIL here, it will be public before too long (should be soon since being public is the point). The original tweet TC posted suggested that NIL might not be in play here which would be against the rules. And, it seems that's ok here now. Protecting JT's legacy is taking an unexpected turn.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 5, 2022 20:30:42 GMT -5
Wojo won fewer than 8 Big East games once at Marquette in 7 seasons. Ewing has won 8 or more Big East games once in 5 seasons. Wojo Big East winning percentage: .465. Ewing: .292. And Ewing’s isn’t getting any better in year 6 unless Nickelberry imports some LSU guys. All I'm saying is the sentiment on Ewing wasn't what it is now until this past season.I don't remember reading post from probably over 90% of the posters stating Ewing is the worst coach in college bball....so yes I believe the mob is exaggerating his lack of coaching ability. Turns out some of us were right all along.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 5, 2022 18:20:57 GMT -5
You guys are funny as he'll! PE isn't a good coach? The players don't feel that way. Don't get me wrong he has his flaws but he is a good coach. The endless bitchfest in here is unbearable. Gloom and Doom! But I bet when the Hoyas start winning next year all you haters will High fiving each other, screaming HOYA SAXA! yall bleed Blue & gray as long as they're winning. #FUGAZI you guys love to hate the team like Randy Quaid in Major League 2. It's hilarious! I am not saying this to troll: What is your definitely of "good coach"? If your definition is "the players like him," then you might be right (though I really have no idea, but it's certainly possible). But, I see no success-based definition of "good coach" that Ewing falls under, unless you want to resort to a single BET win among five Big East seasons at or below .500, highlighted by the most recent 0-19 regular season and Big East loss. As I've said before, I think it's fine to be honest and say you love Ewing, want him to be our coach, etc. But I just don't see it on a performance basis. All that said, if Ewing manages to land both Nickelberry (he did) and Pegues (not a done deal), those are both really good hires considering the circumstances. I am not confident it'll matter in the end, but given where Ewing is now I think that those hires are/would be good ones. To me, the perfect way to cap off the assistant situation would be to move Orr to being a special assistant, and to hire an assistant coach who is a defensive guru (for that matter, a defensive guru wouldn't have to have the assistant title but they usually do). But, it's getting late in the hiring process and there aren't that many of those guys out there. 17 of the 22 guys he has brought in have left early so I’m not so sure how much these guys like him.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 5, 2022 13:48:31 GMT -5
So yall have never had supervision that you had to make him/her feel like a idea was theirs to get them to use it? The Xs and Os only need tweaks not a full overhaul. You only have to make small suggestions and Ewing will get on board. You can't go in throwing insults... 1) the entire thing needs a complete overhaul. It’s ludicrous that you think a tweak will do anything. Take a look at the stats (defense especially) and tell me how a tweak here and there could do anything. 2) what makes you think Ewing is willing to listen to any suggestions?
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 5, 2022 11:36:59 GMT -5
The pitch by our new assistant(s) should be to try to minimize Ewing's role and emphasize that their hiring indicates a change of direction for the program. Not so easy to make when Patrick still runs the show. And how exactly does THAT work? You're telling the team to ignore the head coach? It’s the only sensible way. I bet Ewing loses the respect of the team after about the second or third practice.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 5, 2022 10:08:59 GMT -5
The pitch by our new assistant(s) should be to try to minimize Ewing's role and emphasize that their hiring indicates a change of direction for the program. Not so easy to make when Patrick still runs the show. And then everyone who fell for that ruse transfers out after the first semester when they find out it wasn’t true.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 5, 2022 10:03:35 GMT -5
Looking at the attractiveness of the job - if you look at the assistant's job ass backwards you might see it as a win win. You want to come home and work the DMV market. You sign on to a sinking ship for a bunch of cash - the ship goes down but you've done your job well, established great relations in DMV during the year. Ewing gets all the blame - nobody could have saved him - you think I'll be a prime candidate to replace him. GU likes because he would be a lower price option. You help save the ship and you are a miracle worker and a prime candidate for another head coaching or to be coach in waiting at a rising GU program. I'm sure this will all be a completely functional organization with Ewing not listening to anyone, Ronny grabbing at power, and two assistants ready to snatch the Head Coach's job. Is there any reason to think either of these guys would be good head coaches? Their head coaching records range from scant to terrible.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 5, 2022 8:23:52 GMT -5
Not at all sure that Ewing had free reign back in 2017. And he has even less now! If you think Ewing is making any of these decisions after 0-20, I've got a bridge to sell you. They are being made for him because he's really bad at his job. These new assistants better be truly exceptional world class basketball teachers and strategists to overcome Ewing. And, even if they are, will he let them do their thing?
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 5, 2022 8:03:44 GMT -5
And, yet, so many want to blame this on talent and absolve Ewing’s complete lack of coaching talent.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 5, 2022 6:27:17 GMT -5
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 3, 2022 19:48:42 GMT -5
They think there should be an act of Congress to make it illegal for college athletes to get paid but they also think it’s a good idea to pay Patrick Ewing $4M/yr to do whatever it is he’s doing. I called these people morons but I think that might be too kind.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 3, 2022 19:37:32 GMT -5
I’ll give him that. He is and has been a decent recruiter. How much of a coach, I am not sure. This is why this has been so hard for me. 6-25 with a 21 game losing streak and you’re not sure if he’s a bad coach? What would it take to convince you?
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 3, 2022 14:41:42 GMT -5
No, if this were a business that was actually held accountable by stakeholders, this incredible mismanagement might very well be subject to fraud claims. It’s hard to explain this any other way. But, it’s GU so this will keep going and people like you will continue to cheerlead for these morons. Honestly, they are accomplished people. One can certainly question their approach to the b'ball program and knowledge of the current game, but is it the Hoya way to call them morons? And I don't believe that saying that makes me some kind of toady. Assuming the extension and terms are real, anyone involved in that is a moron. It was so bad and so unnecessary, I don’t know what else to call it.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 3, 2022 14:31:22 GMT -5
It’s very clear that DeGioia is running with the wrong crowd if we hope to have success in men’s basketball. Love Tagliabue and appreciate what he’s done for the university. It would be nice if we had people aged 60 or less actually making decisions. As an alum, I’m sad and embarrassed by this whole situation. Wholesale changes are necessary. In the meantime, $0 will be going from me to the men’s basketball program, for the first time since the early-2000s. Kudos to Aidan for his continued efforts exposing the truth through articles like these. Boya, you have no credibility. Georgetown don’t need your money. Quite the contrary, GU can not afford to lose the support of its alumni.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 3, 2022 14:30:23 GMT -5
It’s so bad that there might be fraud charges brought against the people making this decision. 9797, you definitely have no credibility. Now you are making accusations that someone will be charge with fraud. Lmao! No, if this were a business that was actually held accountable by stakeholders, this incredible mismanagement might very well be subject to fraud claims. It’s hard to explain this any other way. But, it’s GU so this will keep going and people like you will continue to cheerlead for these morons.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 3, 2022 11:52:18 GMT -5
It’s gross malpractice that the university with the most resources and former prestige / brand has the worst coach (by far) in the league. And yet we pay him as if he’s on Wright’s level. If GU was a company, the person in charge would be on the street yesterday for so badly mishandling it’s highest paid role this badly. It’s so bad that there might be fraud charges brought against the people making this decision.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 3, 2022 11:50:44 GMT -5
His recruiting has been mediocre at best and, when you consider that very few of his recruits last longer than a year, it’s been a failure. His coaching is unambiguously terrible and there is no way to interpret the record or stats and come to any other conclusion. Blaming this whole debacle on Akinjo is the flimsiest of excuses and can’t even begin to explain a five year record of futility and the 2022 outcome when he was only here for 18 months and hasn’t been here since the end of 2019. Ewing is the worst coach ever and there is no chance for success if he’s in charge. It’s delusional to think otherwise.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 3, 2022 11:15:59 GMT -5
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