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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 30, 2023 19:19:52 GMT -5
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 20, 2023 11:21:42 GMT -5
Lampkin would fit in nicely with this past year's team. "Lampkin added nothing to his game. No post moves. No mid-range shot. No ball handling. If you are going to be a big, and be a rebounder, a garbage-point-player, you must be exceptional at it. He was average.... He’s also not a pro now, nor will he be unless either he, or someone in his support group, understands 6 points and 6 rebounds a game aren’t worth much."
CU’s Eddie Lampkin an example of what can go wrong with NIL, and a big head
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 19, 2023 22:57:38 GMT -5
Funny thing is Jack avoided Pitino for the bad PR. He may be getting the inferior coach and just as bad a public relations hit. This times a thousand, except the PR with Cooley could be worse if he accepts and the true timeline comes out.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 19, 2023 21:41:30 GMT -5
Looks like Miami will be the only ACC team In Sweet 16.
SEC and Big East with 3 teams each, and Big 12 with 3 if TCU beats Gonzaga.
Big Ten gets 8 bids and only 1 team left.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 18, 2023 21:56:30 GMT -5
This thread has added almost 100 pages since our season ended. Guys, I hate to break it to you, but Latavious Williams isn’t coming. Korleone Young? Stromile Swift?
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 17, 2023 17:41:35 GMT -5
Iona up 2 on UCONN at the half. What possible reason could Georgetown have for hiring their coach? We could announce Pitino as our new coach in about 5 minutes if Jack had half a brain.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 13, 2023 21:02:35 GMT -5
Just about every coach is growing on the job now with NIL and new transfer rules. It is a new era. Not just basketball. I can think of one coach who didn’t grow on the job. His name starts with an “e” and ends in “wing”.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 11, 2023 15:15:42 GMT -5
In a sense, Cooley is in a similar position at Providence that JTIII was at Princeton. Based on his past performance, he probably has lifetime job security and no pressure other than to make the NCAAs half the time. No pressure to win the Big East, go to a final four or win it all. I wonder if, in retrospect, whether JTIII thinks he would've been better staying at Princeton. Something Cooley is undoubtedly considering at his age.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 11, 2023 13:37:35 GMT -5
And if Pitino is at St. John's (especially if GU is, as Goodman is now reporting, not even considering him)? You can still sell the location, facilities and there is still a brand name. You lose out on the major recruiting pitch of playing for Pitino obviously which would be a very big draw. If Pitino goes to SJ, Cooley stays at Provy, Micah goes to ND, and Jack hires Brey or some 3rd tier candidate, you might as well sell the facilities - literally - as you're gonna need the money because paid attendance next season will miniscule.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 11, 2023 9:51:41 GMT -5
I don’t think so. I’d bet his reps have already been in contact with SJ. Holloway to Seton Hall was wrapped up before they lost in the tournament last year. I’d be shocked if Pitino doesn’t end up there and I’m 95% sure he’s not coming here. It may not be officially announced until Iona is out but I’d expect the official word very quickly once they do. They do not want him to get tempted by the Prov job if Cooley did leave before Pitino is hired. That’s a Defeatest attitude. Just two days ago many people on here were saying that Pitino wants to come to Georgetown, that Georgetown was superior to St John’s and everyone already knew that St John’s was also going to make a play for him. Nothing has changed. What’s changed are multiple reports that St. John’s wants Pitino and that Jack does not.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 10, 2023 20:49:10 GMT -5
I’ve been conflicted about Pitino. 5 years ago I’d say we didn’t need the sleaze, but now we’re so desperate that we can’t afford to pass on his credentials. He’s obviously be the best candidate but sometimes the thought of it makes me feel dirty. In the end, we’d come around and do whatever mental gymnastics it takes to support him. “The NCAA didn’t sanction him!” “He didn’t know about the payoffs … or the hookers” For 3 months I’ve been replaying the same scene from The Godfather in my head: “We’re talking about a great coach, a great coach who got scapegoated, who did his penance, and who needs a second chance. We got media people on the payroll … they might like a story like that.” That would make Ronny Sollozzo or McCluskey. I thought he was Fredo.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 10, 2023 11:42:37 GMT -5
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 8, 2023 23:33:38 GMT -5
So ESPN has put up a list of Magoo’s top ten career moments. Here’s number 5: “Winning the first-ever Big East tournament, March 1, 1980: With a rotation featuring Roosevelt Bouie and Louis Orr, Syracuse defeated Georgetown 87-81 in the first Big East tournament. The event was played at the Providence Civic Center. In the NCAA tournament, the Orange beat Villanova (not yet a Big East member) before losing to Iowa.” Except that it was Georgetown that won that game by that score and then lost to Iowa in the Elite Eight. www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35813912/jim-boeheim-syracuse-greatest-moments-career-ncaa-basketball
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 8, 2023 22:16:46 GMT -5
“Our long national nightmare is over.”
Of course, I also posted this after last year’s BET loss so who knows.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 8, 2023 21:33:36 GMT -5
DePaul showed more effort on their end of game chase down block than Georgetown has shown in its last two games.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 8, 2023 13:31:09 GMT -5
In comparison, Pat Kelsey has been a head coach for 11 seasons at 2 different programs (Winthrop and College of Charleston). He's had regular season success (.674 winning percentage) and has made 4 NCAA Tournaments. He's from the Skip Prosser and Chris Mack coaching trees, both way more successful than Kevin Keatts. you want a guy who backs out of a job 30 minutes before the going in front of cameras with the University President? Maybe he should have waited a day.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 8, 2023 11:29:31 GMT -5
The only thing I know for sure is that I will removing my collection of about a dozen Georgetown Basketball t-shirts, sweatshirts. etc. from storage, as I have been too embarrassed to wear them in public for the past two years.
What I don't know yet - depending on who Jack picks as the new coach - is whether I will be proudly wearing them going forward or selling them on e-bay.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 7, 2023 22:32:04 GMT -5
ok but to say has done nothing of professional consequence is a bit misinformed. im addressing THAT. Im not saying he isnt part of the blame He’s done nothing of professional consequence. His dad got him the assistant coach job, for a declining program. He then botched his chance at a head coaching job, which he wouldn’t have gotten without his dad. What private sector jobs are you referring to? Ronny was a loser as a player, a loser as a coach, and now an all-time loser as a chief of staff. He has no redeeming qualities and is not employable now that his dad isn’t around to get him a job. He needs to be sent to Vegas to learn the casino business from Moe Green.
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Post by DallasHoya on Feb 28, 2023 12:08:12 GMT -5
I will be watching a) because there are likely only 2 games left and I will miss it all for the next 8+ months and b) because I want to Akok and Riley and Bristol, Mutumbo and maybe just maybe Anglin & Bass one last time, maybe the last time in a Hoya uniform. Barring some injury, seeing Mutumbo, Anglin and Bass over these next two games is unfortunately wishful thinking. The games have not mattered for over a month now, and our soon to be former head coach has shown he is not interested in player development- likely because he knows he will not be around next year. I don't know Ewing can look Dikembe in the eye after this season. He won't play his son in meaningless parts of meaningless games even though he's at least as talented as the two other centers on the team. I just hope Ryan stays at GU for his full four years. We need more student athletes like him.
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Post by DallasHoya on Feb 23, 2023 12:02:56 GMT -5
For me, at least, the only concern is the oversight issue. But, I really don't think that would be a problem at Georgetown, just as it apparently hasn't been at Iona. Georgetown is a much smaller program, with a much smaller budget than Louisville. The odds that Pitino's assistants at Georgetown would go rogue and do the types of things they did at Louisville (with the escorts) is highly unlikely. And, the Bowen payment thing, for which Pitino was found to have no knowledge or involvement, is essentially irrelevant now that kids get that money over the table through NIL. Really, the only legitimate concerns on Pitino are this stuff, but I think (1) the NCAA largely exonerating him, and (2) his stint at Iona, are enough for me to say it's fine. (And that's why I would not have hired him in 2017 and would now, we know a lot more about what happened at Louisville AND the guy has run by all accounts a clean program at Iona.) From a coaching perspective, he is essentially as good as you are going to get, so there's really no debate there. Back in 2017, when I raised Kelvin Sampson's name, a lot of people scoffed and said no way, and pointed to his NCAA violations in the past. Sampson is now in his 9th year at Houston, and I cannot recall anybody charging him with impropriety or any violations during that time. But, a lot of people would have passed on him for this reason in 2017, and he's probably one of the top 5 best coaches in the country at the moment. I get the "high honor" and "morality" argument, but I really think this is often a ruse used by some Georgetown people to shoot down the candidates they do not want. For example, Georgetown hired Patrick Ewing, even though he did some sordid things in the past. And how about Ewing's utter failure in the academic department, and putting Georgetown in a position where we might get sanctioned because of poor APR ratings? I've never seen Pitino charged with that problem. And in 2009, at SUNY Binghamton, Broadus dismissed six players for team rules violations, which included various criminal actions. Broadus also committed NCAA violations by communicating with high school players during no-contact periods, and put on administrative leave pending investigation. Broadus was ultimately removed as head coach, and the NCA found an assistant had committed violations too. After all of this, in 2011 John Thompson III brought Broadus back. And in 2022, when Ewing (really, Ronny) was looking for new assistants to save his hide, Ronny reached out to Broadus again to try to bring him back. And let's not forget about Kevin Nickelberry, who has never been charged with wrongdoing himself, but was part of Will Wade's shady program at LSU. If the program is willing to stomach the above (and has), then hiring Pitino should be no problem. Of course, the difference is that at least Ewing and Broadus are considered family, so we can ignore their own personal failings, and instead act righteous about the ones others commit. I don’t think III has ever had anything sordid or shady. I might consider insisting on a reverse spin dribble unguarded 40 feet from the basket somewhat sordid.
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