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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 10, 2019 11:54:02 GMT -5
Question: Does anyone know how a team like SJU will be treated in the BE tourney as far as the NET quads go? Let’s say they win Wednesday, beat Marquette Thursday, and we were to knock them off on Friday. I’m assuming the committee will consider it neutral even though it’s their home arena? In the hypothetical scenario, it would mean the difference between a quad 1 and quad 2 win I believe I read they will be considered home games for St Johns. I can't find where I read that, so don't quote me but I am fairly certain that is the case. Yes I believe its the same as the tournament site rules so three or more regular season games makes it a home site. MSG will be home for St. Johns.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 9, 2019 21:50:33 GMT -5
I somewhat regret taking the bait. But the martyrdom act while the rest of us delusional luddites dare to enjoy a big win definitely got to me. I suppose he wins. SF I literally come to this board because you and a handful of posters are still here to talk about basketball. So much is endless negativity, poorly spun analytics, and general trolling. Thank you. You win.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 9, 2019 17:19:34 GMT -5
Trey literally grabbed his leg so he couldn't move and the strip was a pure arm rake. To say they weren't fouls is ridiculous especially they way that game was called. I'll take it but the way this fan base whines about bad officiating then when we wr a break they act like it's good officiating is LOL funny. How are you this insufferable even after a big win? You'd be upset too if your hottest take was Mac wouldn't make an impact on a good team.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 9, 2019 16:39:37 GMT -5
As FT 60 gets shot, a gentle reminder why college basketball can be terribly boring.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 9, 2019 16:37:25 GMT -5
Does Jessie believe in Jessie?
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 9, 2019 16:34:55 GMT -5
A senior leader would be nice right now...but we'll settle for freshmen.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 9, 2019 16:26:09 GMT -5
The young guys today...man they are tough.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 9, 2019 15:45:36 GMT -5
Its insane the amount of pessimism on this board at the moment. We are effectively level at half with a ranked team on the road. Glass seems 3/4 full, yet people talking about how its a quarter empty? The pessimistic replies you get to this post will be particularly hilarious.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 9, 2019 11:13:36 GMT -5
Feeling pretty good we will get a fit on the wing. The evolution of the Pat overhaul has been: We need anyone who can play basketball (Blair, Pickett) We need a point guard (Akinjo) We need athletes (Mac, Josh) We need a modern game center; rim protector, rim runner, or crafty Euro (Yurt, Q, Wilson) We need wings ( ?) Pat has done a good job of going out and getting the pieces. This is the last leg where it will finally look like a full team. By the way, not diminishing Pickett, Blair, or Carter that was just the reality of that 11th hour recruiting class and that Carter is a nice player but not a position we were desperate for. Lets see how it shakes out. Giga you are being extremely hard on Morko and Carter..... Morko is a top 100 4* kid. I think you are judging him based off his current play and not the player we thought we had at the time. Carter is something we don't have on next year's team at this time: a deadeye 3pt shooter. We are hoping that James, Mac, and Morko become more consistent from 3 but Carter coming in was recruited for his shot. You are dead on with Juggy.... I didn't mean it that way! It was just that Mork's recruitment was less strategic and more opportunistic (we were scrambling and got lucky). Carter is a great pick up, but similar to players we had been getting (like Derrickson). I meant no offense to them. Its just that the other guys are transformational for Pat's style.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 9, 2019 8:43:38 GMT -5
Feeling pretty good we will get a fit on the wing. The evolution of the Pat overhaul has been: We need anyone who can play basketball (Blair, Pickett) We need a point guard (Akinjo) We need athletes (Mac, Josh) We need a modern game center; rim protector, rim runner, or crafty Euro (Yurt, Q, Wilson) We need wings ( ?) Pat has done a good job of going out and getting the pieces. This is the last leg where it will finally look like a full team. By the way, not diminishing Pickett, Blair, or Carter that was just the reality of that 11th hour recruiting class and that Carter is a nice player but not a position we were desperate for. Lets see how it shakes out.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 6, 2019 11:28:45 GMT -5
So who did everyone beat?
Stats for teams NET ranked 31-80 numbers include the Hoyas.
18 have 3+ Q1 wins 11 have 9+ Q1/Q2 wins Of those 11, 7 also have 2+ Q3/Q4 losses
So yes by who the Hoyas beat, they do actually compare favorably to the broadest definition of the bubble. You can try to go team by team, and explain or explain away flaws or make excuses for mid-majors. But the quadrant system is in place to do that already. Belmont's "big wins" are Lipscomb twice, UCLA, Murray St, and at Austin Peay. That's a wide net to catch Q1/Q2 wins.
So bottom line, the Hoyas are legitimately in the discussion and deservedly so by the standard of "who did you beat?". Enjoy it for the first time in an entire graduating class.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 5, 2019 20:58:02 GMT -5
Oh by the way this would be a Q2 win and Depaul is favored by 1 1/2. This is not some cupcake. Its an important win for the standings and all the metrics as well.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 4, 2019 18:37:32 GMT -5
It is such a crazy bubble this season and so much more can happen. Lunardi has Oklahoma and TCU in easily and both will be underdogs in their games this week and could finish 6-12 in the conference. Could the committee honestly take a team that only won 33% of its conference games, regardless of SOS? Metrics be damned, that would be so deflating to have such unsightly teams in the NCAA. I just do not see that happening. So there is so much more to sort out this week. Hoyas need a lot to go in their favor, but also need to win. Win Wednesday and the season is an undeniable success. Everyone is apparently going to be shocked when TCU doesn't make it. Their inclusion is baffling with only two Iowa State wins in q1 and a 3-7 mark in their last 10 to go along with that 6-10 conference mark. If their NET were 20, at least that's an argument. But its hanging around 50. Why are they special compared to Creighton for example? Really strange how sold everyone is on that team being in.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 3, 2019 18:32:59 GMT -5
Thanks for that, number 1 looks good to me, 2 a long shot I would love and 3 a real possibility. I think the Johnnies are toast, but they do surprise. Fact is it is all moot if we don’t win Wednesday, or much better if we win both and go 10-8. Fact is that even having this discussion is an improvement. Also weird that a third place team at 9-9 could be seeded 7th. Also Xavier losing at Butler Tuesday (Butler will be favored) would end the suspense.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 3, 2019 12:01:47 GMT -5
Am I reading the NCAA NET rankings correctly? We dropped a spot after our win against SHU and SHU GAINED a spot? I do not expect to make the NCAAs as an at large, but I am struggling to figure out these NET rankings. When I see a team like Penn St 12-17, ranked #49 something is wrong. Q3 and above wins MUST matter more than decent losses. You’re correct, I’m pretty surprised as well. But I guess a 1 point Q1 loss on the road doesn’t hurt you that much, and a 1 point Q2 home win doesn’t help you that much. We were favored by 2 and won by 1 (the cap for OT) so that makes sense. But thats not a bad thing. Bubble teams are supposed to beat other bubble teams at home. The Hoyas did that. They also stayed ahead in the standings. In leagues that have a balanced schedule, standings will matter. The Big East is so tightly packed (depending on the day 7 teams between 55 and 75), absolutely the standings will be a factor. Also win and the NET takes care of itself. We'll be dogs the next two games so any wins move it significantly.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 2, 2019 16:35:29 GMT -5
I was hesitant to post because I thought by now someone would mention Yurt shot 22/44 from three (yes 50%) as a sophomore. So to answer, yes his shot does translate to games.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 22, 2019 18:37:56 GMT -5
Of the 51 non conference leaders (at large candidates) ahead of us NET, 14 have zero or 1 Q1 wins. Think about that. More than 1/4 of the teams have as many or fewer quality wins all year as we've had this week.
If you want to know why we're in the conversation, there you have it.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 21, 2019 8:47:08 GMT -5
Question for you stat folks: is the NET adjusted daily or is it a weekly deal? Reason I ask is that it looks as if our ranking did not move after Villanova win. I think every other day roughly. So we should see the update later today.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 12, 2019 12:37:20 GMT -5
Why is everyone saying Greg "got worse?" He's 14/33 OOC and 14/35 from three in conference. He has 10 games shooting over his season average of 41% and nine games shooting under it (the rest he didn't take a three). He's two for his last 10 and started the season three for nine. I could go on, but the bottom line is Greg is good but streaky. He's not "figured out" or "suffering from Mac's presence." Lets hope he starts another streak against Seton Hall. He's 8/25 from 3 since that first Butler anomaly and 13/41 overall. That is very very bad for someone coming in as a supposed sniper. Or he's 2 for his last 5 in three games. You can cut it however you'd like. The fact is we use the Butler game as a marker because it was the "Greg will save the season!" game. But overall he is what he is. He's a good role player and when he's open, he'll knock down a catch and shoot three. Against Butler he tossed in a couple of tough ones he usually won't make. OK but he's still a useful player and his slump has no guarantee of continuing anymore than his Butler heroics did. If he were a true 6'6" "sniper" he wouldn't be a grad transfer from W&M.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 12, 2019 11:42:26 GMT -5
Why is everyone saying Greg "got worse?"
He's 14/33 OOC and 14/35 from three in conference. He has 10 games shooting over his season average of 41% and nine games shooting under it (the rest he didn't take a three). He's two for his last 10 and started the season three for nine.
I could go on, but the bottom line is Greg is good but streaky. He's not "figured out" or "suffering from Mac's presence." Lets hope he starts another streak against Seton Hall.
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