757hoyafan
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Post by 757hoyafan on Apr 8, 2024 22:00:39 GMT -5
Congrats to UCONN!
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 8, 2024 22:29:16 GMT -5
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 8, 2024 22:46:52 GMT -5
Great first half. Purdue had no answer in the second half.
Good win for the conference.
Hurley reaching around the ref to push his player from the sideline was hilarious.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 8, 2024 22:46:55 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 8, 2024 22:51:56 GMT -5
Gregg needs to get out of the Midwest more.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 8, 2024 23:31:05 GMT -5
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 9, 2024 4:21:16 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 9, 2024 7:43:37 GMT -5
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Apr 9, 2024 8:38:57 GMT -5
I'm all on board for complaining about the Big East only getting three teams, but doesn't "favorites dominate" suggest that the seeding was correct? The selection might have been bad, but the favorites are supposed to win.
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hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Apr 9, 2024 9:07:46 GMT -5
I'm all on board for complaining about the Big East only getting three teams, but doesn't "favorites dominate" suggest that the seeding was correct? The selection might have been bad, but the favorites are supposed to win. Had this same exact thought even though there are legitimate gripes to be had. Also, it’s really not the committee’s fault that the margin of victory in the final four was so significant. UConn and Purdue were clearly much better than their opponents, and UConn was clearly much better than Purdue, and really any other team.
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kettlehill
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Post by kettlehill on Apr 9, 2024 9:44:02 GMT -5
If Cooley had cajoled Spencer into being a Hoya last offseason, we might have actually won a few ( non Depaul ) BE games: the kid is a winner, a leader and an absolute dawg. Way more than a shooter: in the last 3 tourney games, he led the Huskies in rebounds with 8, 12 and 8. Clearly he made the right choice....as did Hurley.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 9, 2024 10:52:54 GMT -5
Ironic that Texas A&M alum, NCAA tourney Selection committee chair and human imbecile CHARLES MCCLELLAND (Big East sucks, Seton Hall sucks) presented Dan Hurley with the Champion Trophy.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 9, 2024 13:41:59 GMT -5
This was the obvious play and very well executed. Purdue had no answer.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 9, 2024 13:44:16 GMT -5
The question is when will he move on as an HC somewhere?
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 9, 2024 13:45:09 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 9, 2024 13:47:39 GMT -5
Great first half. Purdue had no answer in the second half. Good win for the conference. Hurley reaching around the ref to push his player from the sideline was hilarious.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 9, 2024 13:49:17 GMT -5
This was the obvious play and very well executed. Purdue had no answer. This really shows that while big men can still be valuable in the college game, there are also inherent limitations. A team cannot win by trading twos for threes. That said, Purdue was obviously a great basketball team, and Edey was a huge part of their success. Really good big men can still be really valuable in the college game, though. I do wonder what Edey's efficiency numbers look like on types of shots though. For example, what is his efficiency on post ups? I imagine not great, though probably very good simply because he's a great player and is also bigger than most of his opponents. I believe there is a stat service out there that gives those types of stats, but I do not have access to it.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 9, 2024 13:55:07 GMT -5
This was the obvious play and very well executed. Purdue had no answer. This really shows that while big men can still be valuable in the college game, there are also inherent limitations. A team cannot win by trading twos for threes. That said, Purdue was obviously a great basketball team, and Edey was a huge part of their success. Really good big men can still be really valuable in the college game, though. I do wonder what Edey's efficiency numbers look like on types of shots though. For example, what is his efficiency on post ups? I imagine not great, though probably very good simply because he's a great player and is also bigger than most of his opponents. I believe there is a stat service out there that gives those types of stats, but I do not have access to it. But UCONN only made 6 threes. So it's not like Purdue was trading 2s for 3s. That's why people need to watch the games and not just look at statistics. UCONN had a phenomenal gameplan. They decided to not let anybody but Edey beat them, knowing they could use Clingan and Johnson to wear down Edey over 40 minutes and that by not allowing 3s, it would be next to impossible for Edey to win the game by himself. And UCONN was correct. I was surprised not to see Painter adjust more, and he's an excellent coach. He just kept dumping it down to Edey, seemed like he fell in love with the idea of Clingan/Johnson getting into foul trouble. But the problem for Painter was, by the time those two UCONN centers got into foul trouble, the game was already over.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 9, 2024 17:12:15 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 9, 2024 17:50:27 GMT -5
But UCONN only made 6 threes. So it's not like Purdue was trading 2s for 3s. That's why people need to watch the games and not just look at statistics. UCONN had a phenomenal gameplan. They decided to not let anybody but Edey beat them, knowing they could use Clingan and Johnson to wear down Edey over 40 minutes and that by not allowing 3s, it would be next to impossible for Edey to win the game by himself. And UCONN was correct. I was surprised not to see Painter adjust more, and he's an excellent coach. He just kept dumping it down to Edey, seemed like he fell in love with the idea of Clingan/Johnson getting into foul trouble. But the problem for Painter was, by the time those two UCONN centers got into foul trouble, the game was already over. But Purdue only made 1 three. Maybe "people" should look at the math before they start criticizing. Purdue was 1-7 from three point range. They scored 3 points from three point range. Connecticut went 6-22. They scored 18 points from three point range. 18 minus 3 is 15. In this instance, that happens to be Connecticut's winning margin. You think it mattered, perhaps? I realize that part of the 1-7 was Connecticut's strategy and great defense, of course. Purdue had to counteract that strategy, but they did not. Perhaps they couldn't because Connecticut is too good. But, instead, Purdue chose to shoot mostly twos, even though they are one of the best three point shooting teams in the country. Connecticut shutting that down essentially turned them into a two-point only team. It's hard to win that way--which was my point.
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