jpj
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Post by jpj on Dec 16, 2023 1:00:07 GMT -5
The Jalen Cook example gave me an idea. NCAA should adopt the professional soccer model of loaning young players out to get them time. It's a win win for the schools and the player. All the time and resources you put into landing the player won't be lost because they want playing time. If the player doesn't go back to the original school they signed with they have to sit out. If not they can play right away. I know this will never happen. As for the actual transfer rules I think they should be pretty simple. There is no more grad transfer. You get one free transfer no matter what. Only way you get two is if your previous two coaches were fired or left the year you decided to transfer. If the coaches can leave than the player should to. Your Grad Transfer rule will never work. Undergrad Admissions are distinct from undergrad admissions. Admissions Officers select the undergraduate class. Graduate Faculty select the graduate students (except in most MBA programs) and some Graduate Schools/Programs only admit Ph.D. students, and MS/MA degrees are only awarded to those who don't pass Ph.D., qualifying exams.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 16, 2023 21:05:17 GMT -5
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guru
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Post by guru on Dec 16, 2023 22:12:44 GMT -5
Primo Spears is 1-12 and his team is losing by double digits. That dude is really great at losing basketball games.
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Post by raleighfriar on Jan 18, 2024 18:01:49 GMT -5
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 18, 2024 18:56:29 GMT -5
The desired goal the entire time.. Smh... theathletic.com/5212594/2024/01/18/doj-antitrust-lawsuit-ncaa-transfer-rules/?access_token=321315All of it is part of the NCAA’s ongoing quest for an antitrust exemption from Congress, a topic that was indirectly referenced on Thursday at the 11th NIL-related Congressional hearing in Washington D.C.
“I do think in the end we’re going to need some federal support, even if it’s limited protection,” Baker said during the hearing. “Because otherwise, one of the things I’ve learned in my brief period here is if a member doesn’t like the rule the membership made, it’s like a federal case the next day. People start spending money on lawyers and I don’t really see how that benefits anybody.”
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 18, 2024 21:18:12 GMT -5
The desired goal the entire time.. Smh... theathletic.com/5212594/2024/01/18/doj-antitrust-lawsuit-ncaa-transfer-rules/?access_token=321315All of it is part of the NCAA’s ongoing quest for an antitrust exemption from Congress, a topic that was indirectly referenced on Thursday at the 11th NIL-related Congressional hearing in Washington D.C.
“I do think in the end we’re going to need some federal support, even if it’s limited protection,” Baker said during the hearing. “Because otherwise, one of the things I’ve learned in my brief period here is if a member doesn’t like the rule the membership made, it’s like a federal case the next day. People start spending money on lawyers and I don’t really see how that benefits anybody.”
I doubt they will get it. The only pro league that has an antitrust exemption is MLB and that exemption was granted around 100 years ago. No other league has been able to get an antitrust exemption. NCAA should be more worried another losing their non profit tax exemption with NIL/players being paid.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 19, 2024 9:13:04 GMT -5
The desired goal the entire time.. Smh... theathletic.com/5212594/2024/01/18/doj-antitrust-lawsuit-ncaa-transfer-rules/?access_token=321315All of it is part of the NCAA’s ongoing quest for an antitrust exemption from Congress, a topic that was indirectly referenced on Thursday at the 11th NIL-related Congressional hearing in Washington D.C.
“I do think in the end we’re going to need some federal support, even if it’s limited protection,” Baker said during the hearing. “Because otherwise, one of the things I’ve learned in my brief period here is if a member doesn’t like the rule the membership made, it’s like a federal case the next day. People start spending money on lawyers and I don’t really see how that benefits anybody.”
I doubt they will get it. The only pro league that has an antitrust exemption is MLB and that exemption was granted around 100 years ago. No other league has been able to get an antitrust exemption. NCAA should be more worried another losing their non profit tax exemption with NIL/players being paid. And the MLB exemption is based on the sham and absurd ruling in 1922 that baseball is not interstate commerce.
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bills
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Post by bills on Jan 19, 2024 10:11:22 GMT -5
This will have to become a two way street. Scholarships are awarded for one year only and may or may not be renewed at the school’s discretion. Players are not being run off. If they are free agents who can offer their skills to any school each year, then schools have no obligation to them other than for one season at a time. Free agency works both ways.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 19, 2024 10:47:11 GMT -5
This will have to become a two way street. Scholarships are awarded for one year only and may or may not be renewed at the school’s discretion. Players are not being run off. If they are free agents who can offer their skills to any school each year, then schools have no obligation to them other than for one season at a time. Free agency works both ways. I assume the multiyear scholarships to the extent any P5 program offered, have gone the way of the dinosaur. The NCAA has allowed colleges to provide multiyear scholarships since 2012. Additionally, in 2015, NCAA D1 colleges from the Power Five conferences (colleges in the Football Bowl Subdivision, plus Notre Dame) agreed to implement a rule that prevented multi-year D1 scholarships from being canceled or not renewed for any athletic reason. So, yes, there are athletic scholarships out there that are guaranteed for four years, but they are not the norm outside of powerhouse football programs and some other situations. While the practice of extending multi-year athletic scholarships has been growing, it is largely dependent on whether specific programs and coaches are open to offering them. For most student-athletes, athletic scholarships are awarded for one year only and renewed annually. However, many coaches and programs see one-year scholarships as not much different than multi-year scholarships, because they automatically renew them if the athlete has no academic or conduct issues. That’s why it’s important to discuss scholarship offers in detail with each coach in order to get a good idea of what your situation will be.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 25, 2024 8:16:38 GMT -5
We've come a long way since the initial post in this thread We sure have. Close to 100% of two time transfers are playing this year.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jan 25, 2024 8:28:27 GMT -5
We've come a long way since the initial post in this thread We sure have. Close to 100% of two time transfers are playing this year. I'd like the exact number.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 25, 2024 8:38:39 GMT -5
We sure have. Close to 100% of two time transfers are playing this year. I'd like the exact number. 2003 what’s the exact number? 03 is my analytics guy.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 25, 2024 11:04:47 GMT -5
I'd like the exact number. 2003 what’s the exact number? 03 is my analytics guy. I do not know. My impression was that because of the court cases, that most second year transfers were playing. But since it hasn't affected Georgetown, it hasn't really been something I've spent the time to delve into.
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