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Post by sadhoya on Mar 23, 2023 9:06:42 GMT -5
RT must not be feeling too good about himself these days. I am trying to have some empathy for him….but it isn’t easy. RT was COS of a staff that won 2 BE games the last two seasons, he needs to be fired along with every other staff member. If JT3 & PE can be fired why not RT? This ☝️. The man has zero qualification other than a last name. Clear that he’s toxic. If someone disagrees, please prove otherwise.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 23, 2023 9:20:50 GMT -5
So a POS was COS…
Shocking that we failed so spectacularly
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Post by arlingtonhoya05 on Mar 23, 2023 9:25:59 GMT -5
Can this kind of consensus be ignored? I hope so! The contempt for Ronnie Thompson by many on this is dispicable! So many new names on the board echoing the sentiments of a select few, I think. Patrick's gone! Cooley is here! He needs someone with institutional memory and a variety skills to hit the ground running. Why not Ronnie? This board is often pretty ugly. So little good spewing out of the mouths of many. Best of luck to Coach Cooley! ...and that person is Ronny? Yikes.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2023 9:39:55 GMT -5
Must have been a promise that Jack made to JT2. Word is (I’m third hand) that he’s staying. This would not surprise me, but there are no reports of this happening. If Jack made that promise he is again making negligent/reckless use of the university's money, just as he did with the extension.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 23, 2023 9:40:53 GMT -5
Can this kind of consensus be ignored? I hope so! The contempt for Ronnie Thompson by many on this is dispicable! So many new names on the board echoing the sentiments of a select few, I think. Patrick's gone! Cooley is here! He needs someone with institutional memory and a variety skills to hit the ground running. Why not Ronnie? This board is often pretty ugly. So little good spewing out of the mouths of many. Best of luck to Coach Cooley! DC, talk to any basketball alum. Nobody likes the guy. There is no need for institutional knowledge when that knowledge has been the source of years of back stabbing and contempt. Just look at what Reggie Williams said. That isn't all Ronnie, but a big part of it is. He must go. He is an alum and former player so he should be treated like any other in those roles but no longer should have any keys to the proverbial kingdom.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 23, 2023 9:42:22 GMT -5
I hope so! The contempt for Ronnie Thompson by many on this is dispicable! So many new names on the board echoing the sentiments of a select few, I think. Patrick's gone! Cooley is here! He needs someone with institutional memory and a variety skills to hit the ground running. Why not Ronnie? This board is often pretty ugly. So little good spewing out of the mouths of many. Best of luck to Coach Cooley! DC, talk to any basketball alum. Nobody likes the guy. There is no need for institutional knowledge when that knowledge has been the source of years of back stabbing and contempt. Just look at what Reggie Williams said. That isn't all Ronnie, but a big part of it is. He must go. He is an alum and former player so he should be treated like any other in those roles but no longer should have any keys to the proverbial kingdom. Treat him like Kevin Millen…
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2023 9:43:19 GMT -5
I hope so! The contempt for Ronnie Thompson by many on this is dispicable! So many new names on the board echoing the sentiments of a select few, I think. Patrick's gone! Cooley is here! He needs someone with institutional memory and a variety skills to hit the ground running. Why not Ronnie? This board is often pretty ugly. So little good spewing out of the mouths of many. Best of luck to Coach Cooley! DC, talk to any basketball alum. Nobody likes the guy. There is no need for institutional knowledge when that knowledge has been the source of years of back stabbing and contempt. Just look at what Reggie Williams said. That isn't all Ronnie, but a big part of it is. He must go. He is an alum and former player so he should be treated like any other in those roles but no longer should have any keys to the proverbial kingdom. I have literally never seen anybody defend the guy publicly for attribution. The only defenses of him have been a few anonymous posters on HoyaTalk who pop out of the cracks and then disappear after a little while. He is utterly incompetent at coaching basketball or being involved in college basketball (Ball State, Georgetown the last several years), and should have no role. If his last name was not Thompson, not only would he have never gotten the "Chief of Staff" role, but Georgetown would not have him employed in any capacity. Of the sons, JT3 was the basketball mind. Not Ronnie.
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 23, 2023 10:09:39 GMT -5
His dad has long coattails ….and Ronnie has ridden them his entire life. Have to feel badly for him.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 23, 2023 10:14:10 GMT -5
His dad has long coattails ….and Ronnie has ridden them his entire life. Have to feel badly for him. I feel bad for anyone who had to work with him and be undercut, backstabbed, etc
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2023 10:18:38 GMT -5
His dad has long coattails ….and Ronnie has ridden them his entire life. Have to feel badly for him. I really don't feel bad for him. Listen, I have no idea what his upbringing was like, or what personal issues he may have faced in his life. What I do know is that he was privileged in ways that very few people are in the basketball world, and for much of his adult life, he's managed to cash a pretty handsome paycheck solely by virtue of being his father's son. He's way better off than he would be if his name was Ronnie Smith. That he might now have to go out and get a job on his own merit, and that might be difficult, falls on him and nobody else.
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Post by bluechi on Mar 23, 2023 10:27:26 GMT -5
His dad has long coattails ….and Ronnie has ridden them his entire life. Have to feel badly for him. I really don't feel bad for him. Listen, I have no idea what his upbringing was like, or what personal issues he may have faced in his life. What I do know is that he was privileged in ways that very few people are in the basketball world, and for much of his adult life, he's managed to cash a pretty handsome paycheck solely by virtue of being his father's son. He's way better off than he would be if his name was Ronnie Smith. That he might now have to go out and get a job on his own merit, and that might be difficult, falls on him and nobody else. It may appear that way from the outside...
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Post by miracles87 on Mar 23, 2023 10:32:44 GMT -5
How about let's take Coach Ed Cooley's press conference seriously, and give him the patient and positive support he explicitly asked for yesterday.
I know many on this board will have to overcome some crippling habits they've acquired these last years, no one is saying it'll be easy, but we're all pulling for you!
The program is in good hands now, let's open up the windows, clear the air, and let the sun shine in here at HoyaTalk!
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 23, 2023 11:37:19 GMT -5
I hope so! The contempt for Ronnie Thompson by many on this is dispicable! So many new names on the board echoing the sentiments of a select few, I think. Patrick's gone! Cooley is here! He needs someone with institutional memory and a variety skills to hit the ground running. Why not Ronnie? This board is often pretty ugly. So little good spewing out of the mouths of many. Best of luck to Coach Cooley! DC, talk to any basketball alum. Nobody likes the guy. There is no need for institutional knowledge when that knowledge has been the source of years of back stabbing and contempt. Just look at what Reggie Williams said. That isn't all Ronnie, but a big part of it is. He must go. He is an alum and former player so he should be treated like any other in those roles but no longer should have any keys to the proverbial kingdom.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 23, 2023 11:41:47 GMT -5
How about let's take Coach Ed Cooley's press conference seriously, and give him the patient and positive support he explicitly asked for yesterday. I know many on this board will have to overcome some crippling habits they've acquired these last years, no one is saying it'll be easy, but we're all pulling for you! The program is in good hands now, let's open up the windows, clear the air, and let the sun shine in here at HoyaTalk! The team that will take the court is in good hands, unfortunately the program as a whole isn't as long as the administration stays the same. I'll patiently wait for the entire staff to be announced, then we'll know more on how much pull Cooley actually has...
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 23, 2023 12:10:46 GMT -5
Lee Reed is taking a more prominent role and that’s a good thing. He “gets it”.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2023 12:31:01 GMT -5
How about let's take Coach Ed Cooley's press conference seriously, and give him the patient and positive support he explicitly asked for yesterday. I know many on this board will have to overcome some crippling habits they've acquired these last years, no one is saying it'll be easy, but we're all pulling for you! The program is in good hands now, let's open up the windows, clear the air, and let the sun shine in here at HoyaTalk! The team that will take the court is in good hands, unfortunately the program as a whole isn't as long as the administration stays the same. I'll patiently wait for the entire staff to be announced, then we'll know more on how much pull Cooley actually has... Like you, I was concerned about the influence the administration/Ronny would have, but I feel much better about it than I did before the press conference. Cooley doesn't strike me as the type of personality to wilt or let himself get run over. He's also coached long enough (unlike Ewing) to know how he wants things, and I don't think he'll look kindly on anybody telling him what to do. As for DeGioia, there's a very good chance Cooley will outlast him simply because of age and because DeGioia has been around so long that his days are likely numbered. I feel better about our program than I have in a long time. I think Cooley gets it, and I think to the extent Lee Reed has more influence over the program, that's a good thing.
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Post by miracles87 on Mar 23, 2023 12:47:23 GMT -5
The team that will take the court is in good hands, unfortunately the program as a whole isn't as long as the administration stays the same. I'll patiently wait for the entire staff to be announced, then we'll know more on how much pull Cooley actually has... Like you, I was concerned about the influence the administration/Ronny would have, but I feel much better about it than I did before the press conference. Cooley doesn't strike me as the type of personality to wilt or let himself get run over. He's also coached long enough (unlike Ewing) to know how he wants things, and I don't think he'll look kindly on anybody telling him what to do. As for DeGioia, there's a very good chance Cooley will outlast him simply because of age and because DeGioia has been around so long that his days are likely numbered. I feel better about our program than I have in a long time. I think Cooley gets it, and I think to the extent Lee Reed has more influence over the program, that's a good thing. Of course, like the rest of us, you haven't the slightest clue of what part Ronny Thompson played in any decision made by the program since he has been employed there. We can all agree that his shadow employment has always been a bad look, and really upset folks as the teams fortunes sank to the depths. Other than that, it's just whining to whine, imo.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 23, 2023 12:53:43 GMT -5
If John Thompson III and Ronnie Thompson are friends with Ed Cooley And may have influenced the school months ago to hire Ed Cooley on top of that Why would anyone expect Ed Cooley to fire Ronnie Thompson?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2023 12:58:55 GMT -5
Like you, I was concerned about the influence the administration/Ronny would have, but I feel much better about it than I did before the press conference. Cooley doesn't strike me as the type of personality to wilt or let himself get run over. He's also coached long enough (unlike Ewing) to know how he wants things, and I don't think he'll look kindly on anybody telling him what to do. As for DeGioia, there's a very good chance Cooley will outlast him simply because of age and because DeGioia has been around so long that his days are likely numbered. I feel better about our program than I have in a long time. I think Cooley gets it, and I think to the extent Lee Reed has more influence over the program, that's a good thing. Of course, like the rest of us, you haven't the slightest clue of what part Ronny Thompson played in any decision made by the program since he has been employed there. We can all agree that his shadow employment has always been a bad look, and really upset folks as the teams fortunes sank to the depths. Other than that, it's just whining to whine, imo. Well, let's see what we do know: - Ronnie left Georgetown for Arkansas as an assistant, and took a recruit with him (and fair game, but let's not act like he's all about Georgetown, either). - Ronnie was an abysmal failure at Ball State, and his departure rendered him so toxic that his head coaching career was over after one year. - There were reports that Ewing's communications director got pushed out by Ronny being toxic, and nobody has disputed that or defended Ronnie. - Chris Wright specifically talked negatively about Ronnie. Just a few days ago, even after the Cooley hire, Wright also said he hoped Ronnie was gone. Chris Wright was involved in Roy Hibbert's workouts with Ronnie (preparing for the draft), so Wright knew the guy. - That the university Ronnie's his job title and involvement until outed tells me the university had reasons they didn't want people to know. - Over the last year when there has been a lot of ire focused on Ronnie, I literally cannot remember anybody--on the record--defending the guy. - Ronnie was indisputably the Chief of Staff for two of the worst years of Georgetown basketball (once the university was caught and had to reveal his existence). And he was reported to have been one of the brains behind hiring Nickelberry, trying (and failing) to bring back Broadus, and possibly trying the failed attempt to get Jordan Brooks. These facts alone (especially the last point), in my view, are enough for me to say Ronnie Thompson should have nothing to do with the program going forward. I cannot believe that we just hired Cooley, have all this optimism, and there are people here who want Ronnie to stay involved. To me, if you are making that argument you are either (a) Ronnie, (b) Ronnie's family and friends, or (c) you like the Thompson's more than Georgetown.
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Post by hoyaguy on Mar 23, 2023 13:01:19 GMT -5
Like you, I was concerned about the influence the administration/Ronny would have, but I feel much better about it than I did before the press conference. Cooley doesn't strike me as the type of personality to wilt or let himself get run over. He's also coached long enough (unlike Ewing) to know how he wants things, and I don't think he'll look kindly on anybody telling him what to do. As for DeGioia, there's a very good chance Cooley will outlast him simply because of age and because DeGioia has been around so long that his days are likely numbered. I feel better about our program than I have in a long time. I think Cooley gets it, and I think to the extent Lee Reed has more influence over the program, that's a good thing. Of course, like the rest of us, you haven't the slightest clue of what part Ronny Thompson played in any decision made by the program since he has been employed there. We can all agree that his shadow employment has always been a bad look, and really upset folks as the teams fortunes sank to the depths. Other than that, it's just whining to whine, imo. That’s one pov but another is his was chief of staff over a very disorganized staff and one that fostered a hostile work environment so I would hope on pure merits he’s not someone people would want to keep around. I don’t think that’s senseless whining Edit: and the legal experts can correct me if I’m wrong but a hostile work environment gives people the right to sue 8the institution so it’s not just a “snowflake” fans and staff thing
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