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Post by professorhoya on Mar 29, 2023 13:19:11 GMT -5
Well there it is. Wahab doesn’t really want to be here so the slots open without doubt now
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Post by thedragon on Mar 29, 2023 13:38:34 GMT -5
The advice Wahab has gotten throughout his college career is baffling. From the initial transfer. To the return. To this declaring for the draft nonsense.
While no inside info, I feel very confident in one thing, he will not be on the Gtown roster next season.
Barring more defections from Bristol, Akok, Heath or Mutombo (I still think 1 or 2 of these is possible) - Cooley has 9 schollies to hand out for 2023-24. Fielder has 1. So now 8.
I'd think you will see 2 more HS recruits. 4 or 5 younger transfers with multiple years of eligibility which Cooley seems fond of. And 1 or 2 grad transfers for veteran presence and to give way to scholarship spots for 2024 class (granted we know in todays era there will be likely defections as well but harder to account for those in advance).
Will be fun watching the new staff roster build.
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Post by practice on Mar 29, 2023 13:54:08 GMT -5
Doesn't declaring for the draft get you some visibility and, more importantly, assessment from NBA scouts? Sort of like, these are the 27 things you need to work on? Seems like not a bad idea for anyone with a dream of playing professionally. It'll be very interesting to see if he's a changed player should he come back to GU and play for Cooley.
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Post by bluechi on Mar 29, 2023 14:09:08 GMT -5
Doesn't declaring for the draft get you some visibility and, more importantly, assessment from NBA scouts? Sort of like, these are the 27 things you need to work on? Seems like not a bad idea for anyone with a dream of playing professionally. It'll be very interesting to see if he's a changed player should he come back to GU and play for Cooley. He will be fundamentally better under Cooley I can guarantee that
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 29, 2023 19:12:50 GMT -5
Lambkin Kentucky transfer center Mutombo You can’t keep 4 centers Even though we did a short time ago.... ; ) I am of the view that four centers are insufficient, and we should strive for at least six.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 29, 2023 19:48:27 GMT -5
Doesn't declaring for the draft get you some visibility and, more importantly, assessment from NBA scouts? Sort of like, these are the 27 things you need to work on? Seems like not a bad idea for anyone with a dream of playing professionally. It'll be very interesting to see if he's a changed player should he come back to GU and play for Cooley. He will be fundamentally better under Cooley I can guarantee that Maybe Cooley will have an All-Star center on his staff that can coach big man play.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 29, 2023 20:11:36 GMT -5
He will be fundamentally better under Cooley I can guarantee that Maybe Cooley will have an All-Star center on his staff that can coach big man play. Does his first name start with P? Last name E?
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 29, 2023 20:38:02 GMT -5
Is having four centers worse than bringing in three project centers in the same class?
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 29, 2023 20:51:29 GMT -5
Is having four centers worse that bringing in three project centers in the same class? Depends Who were the 3 projects?
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 29, 2023 21:16:09 GMT -5
Is having four centers worse that bringing in three project centers in the same class? Depends Who were the 3 projects? In the true spirit of congressional testimony — to the best of my recollection, it was Q, Malcolm, and Timmy.
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 30, 2023 9:15:45 GMT -5
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Post by thedragon on Mar 30, 2023 11:57:30 GMT -5
He backtracked on this with this follow up tweet...
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 30, 2023 12:08:31 GMT -5
He backtracked on this with this follow up tweet... Seems like English and Providence are trying to guilt trip them into staying by highly implying that it is a done deal (appearance at press conference, one on one with English, news leaks) so they can’t back out.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 30, 2023 15:18:06 GMT -5
I did think it was odd that Wahab left after 2021, but I am not sure I'd say he "flaked out." I am sure he had his reasons, and quite frankly, given the disaster that 2021-2022 became, it's possible Wahab saw the writing on the wall. The 2021-2022 team would have obviously been better had Wahab stayed, but it would have still been a really bad team. We also don't know why Wahab "left" this season especially since he came back. I am sure it wasn't easy coming back and coming off the bench, but he did. He didn't just quit. That makes me think he really did miss those games for reasons unrelated to Ezewiro. In any event, we don't know, and I think my position is just as reasonable as yours on whether he left this year because of Ezewiro or not. On Wahab's performance, you're just wrong on many of these: - professorhoya: "Could no longer automatically score down low" - Wahab shot 71.2% from two this year, anbd 67.3% in 2021. So, he shot better. He was also more efficient. - professorhoya: "suddenly couldn’t block shots/rim project or rebound like he did before Maryland." Yes, and no. Wahab's block rated did fall from 6.2 in 2021, to 4.2 in 2022 to 3.3 in 2023. So you're right about that. On rebounding though, Wahab rebounded better offensively this year than in the past by rebound rate, and his defensive rebounding rate in 2023 was only slightly under 2021. I would add Wahab improved over 2021 in other ways, including a much lower turnover rate, a slightly higher (but still not great) assist rate, and he got to the line more frequently than in 2021, too. He also shot free throws at a higher percentage than in 2021. Was Wahab's defense overall worse this year? Probably, but Georgetown as a team was WAY worse in 2023 than 2021, and Wahab was on both teams, so you cannot put that all on Wahab. Obviously, hi sblocking was worse. I don't know Wahab or his personality, and I don't know if Cooley feels like he can use Wahab in a better way than Ewing. But, if Cooley does want him, I would welcome him back with open arms. In fact, after going through this exercise, it makes me want him to stay (if Cooley wants him back) more. If he was as efficient as he was given the dumpster fire he was dealing with in our team and coaching last year, I think in a real system he could really excel. He left after he won the BET championship and made the tournament. That is highly unusual and flakey. Makes him a risk for Cooley. Your Rick Pitino would get rid of him and is already cleaning house. You never even liked the guy because he doesn’t have a “modern” game and doesn’t shoot 3s. You cherry pick some stats but he isn’t the same player he was pre Maryland. Pre Maryland he was a low post monster, rebounder and rim protector. His FG% was 58 and 59% pre Maryland. That’s very important for him because all he does is score down low. He was 51% last year. Huge difference. He was at 1.6 blocks sophomore season. Now at .7 blocks. He no longer protects the rim. And not as good a rebounder anymore either. Anyone with size or strength or length has always given him trouble and now there are a bunch of guys bigger and stronger than him. Sanogo, Clingan, Nungee, Dixon, His production is way down and he’s a flake risk plus has the losing mentality/culture. When you are rebuilding a program this is the type of guy that you have to clean out because losing and negativity is infectious. Lampkin, Kentucky transfer center are better options and you also have to account for keeping Mutombo. www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/qudus-wahab-1.htmlYou are right on FG%, I misquoted Wahab's stats - I mixed up FT% and 2 point percentage. So, you're right that his two point percentage went down. And I agree that's a big difference. So sorry about that. But, he was still a more efficient player this year than last year or the year before that. As far as your comments on him being a "flake risk" and having "the losing mentality/culture," unless you know Wahab personally I don't know how you possibly know that, unless you are an expert at reading body language and converting that into an understanding of whether someone has a "losing mentality/culture." Also, I don't think someone transferring makes them a "flake," and you are attributing Wahab's absence a few games on what YOU are deeming his being flaky, when in reality, we have know idea. For all we know, maybe someone in his family was sick. I have no idea, and you do not either. As I said, I really defer to Cooley on this. I think there are both reasons that he could be useful, and other reasons to move on, as well.
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Post by hoyaliam on Mar 30, 2023 16:33:20 GMT -5
Mutombo in 2024 will be on the level of Edey but a better rim protecter. I watched many practices last year and he looked ready and I am very excited for the next two years. His jump shot looks amazing and would not be surprised if he is shooting 35 percent from 3 in the next few years. Future nba draft pick
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Mar 30, 2023 16:43:28 GMT -5
You knew it was just a matter of time.
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Post by bluechi on Mar 30, 2023 19:22:17 GMT -5
He backtracked on this with this follow up tweet... Seems like English and Providence are trying to guilt trip them into staying by highly implying that it is a done deal (appearance at press conference, one on one with English, news leaks) so they can’t back out. No. Kim English is a good coach and is likeable.
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Post by bluechi on Mar 30, 2023 19:23:22 GMT -5
Mutombo in 2024 will be on the level of Edey but a better rim protecter. I watched many practices last year and he looked ready and I am very excited for the next two years. His jump shot looks amazing and would not be surprised if he is shooting 35 percent from 3 in the next few years. Future nba draft pick I feel the same way and have stated similar. Thank you.
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Post by hoyadoing on Mar 30, 2023 21:56:10 GMT -5
Mutombo in 2024 will be on the level of Edey but a better rim protecter. I watched many practices last year and he looked ready and I am very excited for the next two years. His jump shot looks amazing and would not be surprised if he is shooting 35 percent from 3 in the next few years. Future nba draft pick I feel the same way and have stated similar. Thank you. It's time to lay off the hard substances.
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