hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 20, 2023 19:41:06 GMT -5
That would be great. I just hate this "WIN NOW/ WIN YESTERDAY/ WIN TOMORROW" attitude that some fans seem to have. It is unreasonable and distasteful. Let's let the man do his job and support him- you know, like fanatics of the team are supposed to do! Totally agree with this sentiment; on the other hand, Kansas St. brought in a new coach and a bunch of new players, was picked last in the Big 12, and is now in the Sweet 16. Iowa St. was similar last year coming off like a 5 win season. So while that shouldn't be the expectation and it's a huge and unreasonable ask, it's not impossible.
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 20, 2023 20:05:58 GMT -5
Best of luck to Coach Cooley. He is a good coach who has the potential to excel at GU. I will be patient with him and do not expect any miracles or immediate transformation. My expectation is a multi-year process of getting competitive again. I would be happy with being on the bubble in year three. If the team exceeds those expectations, that would be incredible. I think we'll be on the bubble much faster than that. It's the next step up that will be harder. I agree with this. I’m trying to measure my expectations, but Cooley knows how to win in this league. I think he will get us to the bubble/into the field quickly. The challenge is going to be that next step. That being said, I fully plan to give him time. This sort of development isn’t linear. It wouldn’t even surprise me for him to propel this momentum and put together a surprisingly good season in year one, only to step back slightly in year two. I’m looking forward to the ride. I just hope beyond hope that maybe, just maybe, I’m going to get to wake up on Selection Sunday knowing that Georgetown is going to be an at large bid and in the field. I have missed that feeling so much.
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hoya73
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Post by hoya73 on Mar 20, 2023 20:35:06 GMT -5
Get over yourself...or just get out. I becoming more and more convinced with each Boya post that he hates GTown basketball. He is never happy no matter what is going on with the program. As soon as Ewing was fired Boya started up with the "if they hire so and so I'm going to be upset". Most of us was just happy that Ewing was gone🤷🏾♂️ I guess it's between boya and his shrink as to why he needs to be the turd in our punchbowl, but, seriously, dude, take a sabbatical.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Mar 20, 2023 20:37:51 GMT -5
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 20, 2023 21:26:54 GMT -5
Lampkin is a space eater who has great hands and is a good finisher at the basket. He also runs the court fairly well. I think we will like him more than Q…/but I don’t see him having enormous upside. Could be very solid though…and the type of think, strong bruiser that Cooley does well with.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 20, 2023 21:37:24 GMT -5
Lampkin is a space eater who has great hands and is a good finisher at the basket. He also runs the court fairly well. I think we will like him more than Q…/but I don’t see him having enormous upside. Could be very solid though…and the type of think, strong bruiser that Cooley does well with. Maybe a poor man's Nate Watson?
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dense
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Post by dense on Mar 20, 2023 21:48:52 GMT -5
Lampkin is a space eater who has great hands and is a good finisher at the basket. He also runs the court fairly well. I think we will like him more than Q…/but I don’t see him having enormous upside. Could be very solid though…and the type of think, strong bruiser that Cooley does well with. Maybe a poor man's Nate Watson? No cause he isn't really a throw down to and get a basket guy. He is more of a guy who gets off rebounds and catch dump offs down low and finish. My beef with bringing him in is that he is a below the rim player but if you run a flex offense he is hard to guard. So he works within that realm.
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vv83
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Post by vv83 on Mar 20, 2023 22:05:03 GMT -5
We played against Lampkin in 2021-22 when we lost to TCU. He played 18 minutes and had 9 points, 9 rebounds, 3 fouls. I recall him being a very big, broad, strong guy who could finish around the hoop. But who did not seem particularly nimble or explosive.
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wolveribe
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Post by wolveribe on Mar 20, 2023 22:26:23 GMT -5
He's not explosive but he's pretty nimble. He gets out on the break a lot more than you would expect from someone his size. Very active, sets lots of picks, keeps offense moving, very active on defense as well. Good rebounder.
Hes a better player than Q, Ryan, Ezewiro. Wont be a huge bucket getter though. Seems like a lot of bigs Cooley likes (Croswell)
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dense
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Post by dense on Mar 21, 2023 4:49:44 GMT -5
He's not explosive but he's pretty nimble. He gets out on the break a lot more than you would expect from someone his size. Very active, sets lots of picks, keeps offense moving, very active on defense as well. Good rebounder. Hes a better player than Q, Ryan, Ezewiro. Wont be a huge bucket getter though. Seems like a lot of bigs Cooley likes (Croswell) Yup the Flex offense will get him more buckets with all the duck-ins(think Lonnie Baxter at MD) from the weak side after the Flex screen. Is he my kind of player? No. I get how he works in that AL Skinner version of Flex with everyone so close in. Now Cooley varies the Flex with some ball screens now but I get why he would want a guy like Lampkin who can pass well at 6-11 290. I'm a Flex offense hater. I think it easily leads to offense stagnation cause you get so into the pattern when you get taken out of it, it leads to hero ball or wild shots. Plus to alleviate these problems everyone has to be reading the same thing and know how to read defenses. I do like Cooley's teams how they attack the offense boards though. I welcome having that back in this program.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 21, 2023 6:19:30 GMT -5
We are bringing a true class act to the Hilltop - go Coach Cooley! This is a criticism I don’t understand. If the player doesn’t want to go to PC and he would like to go to GU to play for Cooley, why is that a problem? It’s the kid’s life and his choice, right? ...and it's what hundreds of other kids have done in the same situation when the coach they have committed to leaves/gets fired.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Mar 21, 2023 6:48:21 GMT -5
If Cooley recruits a team--players that actually fit together in terms of skills and attitude, there is no reason this cannot turn around very quickly. Not being unrealistic just recognizing that in today's college basketball free agency environment, the right coach with the right recruits can change fortunes literally in one season.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Mar 21, 2023 7:09:26 GMT -5
He's not explosive but he's pretty nimble. He gets out on the break a lot more than you would expect from someone his size. Very active, sets lots of picks, keeps offense moving, very active on defense as well. Good rebounder. Hes a better player than Q, Ryan, Ezewiro. Wont be a huge bucket getter though. Seems like a lot of bigs Cooley likes (Croswell) Yup the Flex offense will get him more buckets with all the duck-ins(think Lonnie Baxter at MD) from the weak side after the Flex screen. Is he my kind of player? No. I get how he works in that AL Skinner version of Flex with everyone so close in. Now Cooley varies the Flex with some ball screens now but I get why he would want a guy like Lampkin who can pass well at 6-11 290. I'm a Flex offense hater. I think it easily leads to offense stagnation cause you get so into the pattern when you get taken out of it, it leads to hero ball or wild shots. Plus to alleviate these problems everyone has to be reading the same thing and know how to read defenses. I do like Cooley's teams how they attack the offense boards though. I welcome having that back in this program. He's mostly ditched the flex at this point. I'm with you it was an archaic offense; one of the reasons I was in favor of Cooley is he's shown the ability to adapt his offense thankfully But to the broader point of the thread, I'm very interested to see if he can "level up" in terms of the players he can get. Would love to see his teams get more athletic than what he was working with at Providence and continue to adapt to the players he's able to bring in. This initial class will definitely be important to setting the tone of Georgetown being back
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Mar 21, 2023 7:22:04 GMT -5
That program your girl told you not to worry about strikes again! How good is this kid anyway? Is he closer to average 5 ppg 4-star or a legit starter on BE team type 4 star?
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Mar 21, 2023 7:27:46 GMT -5
How good are these two? Which DMV top talents will Ed target?
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wolveribe
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Post by wolveribe on Mar 21, 2023 7:36:42 GMT -5
He's not explosive but he's pretty nimble. He gets out on the break a lot more than you would expect from someone his size. Very active, sets lots of picks, keeps offense moving, very active on defense as well. Good rebounder. Hes a better player than Q, Ryan, Ezewiro. Wont be a huge bucket getter though. Seems like a lot of bigs Cooley likes (Croswell) Yup the Flex offense will get him more buckets with all the duck-ins(think Lonnie Baxter at MD) from the weak side after the Flex screen. Is he my kind of player? No. I get how he works in that AL Skinner version of Flex with everyone so close in. Now Cooley varies the Flex with some ball screens now but I get why he would want a guy like Lampkin who can pass well at 6-11 290. I'm a Flex offense hater. I think it easily leads to offense stagnation cause you get so into the pattern when you get taken out of it, it leads to hero ball or wild shots. Plus to alleviate these problems everyone has to be reading the same thing and know how to read defenses. I do like Cooley's teams how they attack the offense boards though. I welcome having that back in this program. Ed doesnt run a ton of flex anymore. Im not against flex, but you have to run other stuff as well in todays basketball environment.
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hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 21, 2023 8:07:01 GMT -5
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dense
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Post by dense on Mar 21, 2023 8:18:44 GMT -5
Yup the Flex offense will get him more buckets with all the duck-ins(think Lonnie Baxter at MD) from the weak side after the Flex screen. Is he my kind of player? No. I get how he works in that AL Skinner version of Flex with everyone so close in. Now Cooley varies the Flex with some ball screens now but I get why he would want a guy like Lampkin who can pass well at 6-11 290. I'm a Flex offense hater. I think it easily leads to offense stagnation cause you get so into the pattern when you get taken out of it, it leads to hero ball or wild shots. Plus to alleviate these problems everyone has to be reading the same thing and know how to read defenses. I do like Cooley's teams how they attack the offense boards though. I welcome having that back in this program. Ed doesnt run a ton of flex anymore. Im not against flex, but you have to run other stuff as well in todays basketball environment. They did run some against Kentucky and they ran the Skinner version when they did. Which is why I even bring it up.
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 21, 2023 8:34:47 GMT -5
I haven't followed closely but it looks like all 3 of the commits Cooley had at PC were at the same high school. 2 have now decommitted, have to expect that the third would as well. I'm sure it's no lock that they head to Georgetown, they will see what's out there for them. But we'll obviously have room and Cooley should get a chance to make a pitch. Overall we'll probably be heavier into the portal than freshman recruits, but taking 3ish newcomers doesn't seem crazy.
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 21, 2023 9:15:05 GMT -5
Ed doesnt run a ton of flex anymore. Im not against flex, but you have to run other stuff as well in todays basketball environment. They did run some against Kentucky and they ran the Skinner version when they did. Which is why I even bring it up. Cooley still runs some flex offense, and when run occasionally, it can still be effective and create good shots. The biggest thing it does is make the other team work hard on defense fighting through screens and makes the game more physical. Cooley has done a good job with making teams play the way he wants to play and making the game a very physical game on both ends of the floor. If he was running the flex more often, the game would really slow down and become a slugfest and not the type of game most of the high level recruits want to be a part of these days. In the instances when he wants to run some time off the clock and create a good shot, he does run some of the flex principles on a handful of possessions.
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