SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 20, 2023 14:49:50 GMT -5
Not sure why you're mad at me - it's the $6M man that's showing his true colors. As a Georgetown alum, I'm not only disappointed in the result, but I'm extremely saddened by the ethical hoops people are willing to jump through in order to justify the administration's and Cooley's actions. The die is cast at this point. Prior to the hiring I could understand that you're trying to influence the discourse and get popular opinion around to your POV in hopes that the school would go another direction. It didn't work. He is the guy, so your choices as a fan are basically a) come to grips with it and root for him even though you argued fiercely against it or b) distance yourself from the team (or the sport) until such point as he is no longer the man in charge. If it falls flat and a couple years from now it seems like we made a mistake, then by all means feel free to push this same agenda in all your posts. But until then, none of the rest of us wants to hear it. This place has been consumed with negativity for years now. There is no point whatsoever in continuing to beat the same drum when we literally JUST hired this man today. It accomplishes nothing other than annoying everyone. And I'll just add this--as incomprehensible as it may seem to you right now, it's totally OK for you to say "OK, fine, my POV didn't win out and I'm going to let this play out a while and see what happens." It takes a big man to do that and sadly few people are willing to do that kind of thing. They get so entrenched in their opinion that they'd rather the new coach be a bust so they can say they were right rather than it working out splendidly and having to admit they were wrong. It's OK to hope for the best for Cooley even if you don't love the hire. Nobody is going to throw it back at you. Today is a new day, and all slates are wiped clean. Anyone who is truly a fan of Georgetown Basketball should be rooting for Ed Cooley today, regardless of where you stood on him yesterday. LOL. You've seen the guy as a poster for the past however many years. In what world do you think he does anything but post snide, passive-aggressive comments every chance he gets? The ignore button is a wonderful thing. I fought it for years, and but once I gave in... it's fantastic how it changes the discourse.
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Post by centercourt400s on Mar 20, 2023 15:09:13 GMT -5
Not sure why you're mad at me - it's the $6M man that's showing his true colors. As a Georgetown alum, I'm not only disappointed in the result, but I'm extremely saddened by the ethical hoops people are willing to jump through in order to justify the administration's and Cooley's actions. The die is cast at this point. Prior to the hiring I could understand that you're trying to influence the discourse and get popular opinion around to your POV in hopes that the school would go another direction. It didn't work. He is the guy, so your choices as a fan are basically a) come to grips with it and root for him even though you argued fiercely against it or b) distance yourself from the team (or the sport) until such point as he is no longer the man in charge. If it falls flat and a couple years from now it seems like we made a mistake, then by all means feel free to push this same agenda in all your posts. But until then, none of the rest of us wants to hear it. This place has been consumed with negativity for years now. There is no point whatsoever in continuing to beat the same drum when we literally JUST hired this man today. It accomplishes nothing other than annoying everyone. And I'll just add this--as incomprehensible as it may seem to you right now, it's totally OK for you to say "OK, fine, my POV didn't win out and I'm going to let this play out a while and see what happens." It takes a big man to do that and sadly few people are willing to do that kind of thing. They get so entrenched in their opinion that they'd rather the new coach be a bust so they can say they were right rather than it working out splendidly and having to admit they were wrong. It's OK to hope for the best for Cooley even if you don't love the hire. Nobody is going to throw it back at you. Today is a new day, and all slates are wiped clean. Anyone who is truly a fan of Georgetown Basketball should be rooting for Ed Cooley today, regardless of where you stood on him yesterday. 100%. Take your chance as outlined above and rejoin the community on a positive basis. If you keep up the negative spamming you'll just be further ostracized. Is that really what you want?
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smokeyjack
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 20, 2023 15:25:48 GMT -5
Can you just let it go for five minutes? I understand why you felt the need to drag Cooley, constantly, before the hiring was announced. But he’s the coach now. You can’t stop it from happening. Maybe save the criticism for when we actually lose some games or miss on recruits, rather than repetitive character attacks and obsession over his record at PC? Maybe? Please? Not sure why you're mad at me - it's the $6M man that's showing his true colors. As a Georgetown alum, I'm not only disappointed in the result, but I'm extremely saddened by the ethical hoops people are willing to jump through in order to justify the administration's and Cooley's actions. Get over yourself...or just get out.
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alleninxis
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Post by alleninxis on Mar 20, 2023 15:33:09 GMT -5
Brandon Murry was an integral part of a Top 20 two seasons ago and played to his role (excellent defensively, took his offense when it came to him). Then Pat and crew promised him the world and he acted accordingly. A good coach can snap him back to reality. He is worth keeping. I would like to start with a foundation next year of Murray/Heath/Akok and build it out from there.
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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on Mar 20, 2023 15:38:43 GMT -5
Brandon Murry was an integral part of a Top 20 two seasons ago and played to his role (excellent defensively, took his offense when it came to him). Then Pat and crew promised him the world and he acted accordingly. A good coach can snap him back to reality. He is worth keeping. I would like to start with a foundation next year of Murray/Heath/Akok and build it out from there. Agreed. Cooley won’t stand for the with Murray that went on this year. A motivated and in shape Murray has the chance to be an NBA player. Cooley is the perfect coach for him.
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bostonfan
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 20, 2023 15:43:49 GMT -5
Brandon Murry was an integral part of a Top 20 two seasons ago and played to his role (excellent defensively, took his offense when it came to him). Then Pat and crew promised him the world and he acted accordingly. A good coach can snap him back to reality. He is worth keeping. I would like to start with a foundation next year of Murray/Heath/Akok and build it out from there. Wasn't Akok part of senior night his season for the Hoyas? I thought he had decided to move on. I hope he does stay another year, I think he brings a lot to the table and would do well playing for Cooley.
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wolveribe
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Post by wolveribe on Mar 20, 2023 15:44:17 GMT -5
That would be my hope at least. I am skeptical that a player can go from motivated to not motivated at all back to motivated. I was really turned off of Murray, Spears, and Heath rotate between who was going to take the worst shot
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2023 15:50:19 GMT -5
Please let Murray and Ezewiro go. They are not winning basketball players. Ezewiro doesn't even attempt to defend. Murray wants to play hero ball (along with Spears). I don’t think it’s at all fair to judge their play based on one year under Patrick Ewing.
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wolveribe
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Post by wolveribe on Mar 20, 2023 15:52:06 GMT -5
Please let Murray and Ezewiro go. They are not winning basketball players. Ezewiro doesn't even attempt to defend. Murray wants to play hero ball (along with Spears). I don’t think it’s at all fair to judge their play based on one year under Patrick Ewing. At least some players tried. Murray not only didn't try, he had awful body language. Im skeptical hes gonna snap out of it with a different coach, but we will see.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2023 15:59:31 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s at all fair to judge their play based on one year under Patrick Ewing. At least some players tried. Murray not only didn't try, he had awful body language. Im skeptical hes gonna snap out of it with a different coach, but we will see. I have enough confidence in Cooley to think anyone who doesn’t play his game will either be shown the door or not see the floor. It’s no secret that Pat was a terrible coach at both ends of the floor, so I’m kind of reluctant to write off anyone, although I get the point about Murray.
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hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Mar 20, 2023 16:21:18 GMT -5
I am glad to hear that he is going to have at least one "DMV guy" like getting them as freshmen is not the most important thing due to national recruiting abilities these days but being the best spot in the region to return home as grads or upper classmen transfers could pay extremely large dividends
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 20, 2023 16:29:53 GMT -5
Best of luck to Coach Cooley. He is a good coach who has the potential to excel at GU. I will be patient with him and do not expect any miracles or immediate transformation. My expectation is a multi-year process of getting competitive again. I would be happy with being on the bubble in year three. If the team exceeds those expectations, that would be incredible.
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 20, 2023 16:52:19 GMT -5
Cooley originally recruited Anglin so perhaps he might re-commit?
The positive of Cooley coming from PC is he saw us play firsthand and probably has a better sense than most as to who on our roster he wants to prioritize. Huge advantage over an outsider coming in.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 20, 2023 17:06:40 GMT -5
Best of luck to Coach Cooley. He is a good coach who has the potential to excel at GU. I will be patient with him and do not expect any miracles or immediate transformation. My expectation is a multi-year process of getting competitive again. I would be happy with being on the bubble in year three. If the team exceeds those expectations, that would be incredible. I think we'll be on the bubble much faster than that. It's the next step up that will be harder.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 20, 2023 17:10:29 GMT -5
That would be great. I just hate this "WIN NOW/ WIN YESTERDAY/ WIN TOMORROW" attitude that some fans seem to have. It is unreasonable and distasteful. Let's let the man do his job and support him- you know, like fanatics of the team are supposed to do!
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Mar 20, 2023 17:26:40 GMT -5
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 20, 2023 17:35:58 GMT -5
"Garwey Dual has been heavily rumored to be a Georgetown flip, pending the hire of Ed Cooley by the Hoyas." We are bringing a true class act to the Hilltop - go Coach Cooley! This is a criticism I don’t understand. If the player doesn’t want to go to PC and he would like to go to GU to play for Cooley, why is that a problem? It’s the kid’s life and his choice, right?
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Mar 20, 2023 18:02:01 GMT -5
Boya can take any piece of positive news and turn it into a complaint. Kids decommit all the time when the coach that recruited them moves on to another school. God forbid they still want to play for the coach they chose.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 20, 2023 18:54:19 GMT -5
Give boya credit for consistency. He is not a Cooley fan by any stretch, can't blame him for not reversing course just because GU hired him. One of the best things about sports is that the truth is measured by results. So we will know whether Cooley was a successful hire.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 20, 2023 19:19:42 GMT -5
Not sure why you're mad at me - it's the $6M man that's showing his true colors. As a Georgetown alum, I'm not only disappointed in the result, but I'm extremely saddened by the ethical hoops people are willing to jump through in order to justify the administration's and Cooley's actions. Get over yourself...or just get out. I becoming more and more convinced with each Boya post that he hates GTown basketball. He is never happy no matter what is going on with the program. As soon as Ewing was fired Boya started up with the "if they hire so and so I'm going to be upset". Most of us was just happy that Ewing was gone🤷🏾♂️
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