Coach Patrick Ewing's BE record is 32-86 (.271)

[prhoya]

“'Success is winning', Ewing said during [his introductory] press conference. 'If I don’t win, there will be another coach here sooner or later.'

In 689 days, Ewing has not won a conference game. And it looks like there will be another coach on the Hilltop sooner rather than later."
-Excerpt from thehoya.com/there-goes-old-georgetown/#comments


Patrick Ewing’s updated Big East coaching record vs. all BE coaches:

• Current:
Matta (Butler): 1-1 (h 0-1, a 1-0)
McDermott (Creighton): 3-10 (h 1-5, a 1-5, n 1-0)
Stubblefield (DePaul): 1-3 (h 1-1, a 0-2)
Smart (Marquette): 0-4 (h 0-2, a 0-2)
Cooley (Providence): 3-8 (h 2-4, a 1-4)
Holloway (Seton Hall): 0-2 (h 0-1, a 0-1)
Anderson (SJU): 3-6 (h 2-2, a 1-3, n 0-1)
Hurley (UConn): 0-6 (h 0-3, a 0-3)
Neptune (Villanova): 0-3 (h 0-1, a 0-1, n 0-1)
Miller (Xavier): 0-2 (h 0-1, a 0-1)
---
• Previous:
Jordan (Butler): 4-6 (home 1-4, away 3-2, neutral 0-0)
Leitao (DePaul): 4-3 (h 2-1, a 2-2)
Wojciechowski (Marquette) 2-6 (h 0-4, a 1-2, n 1-0)
Willard (Seton Hall): 4-9 (h 3-2, a 0-5, n 1-2)
Mullin (SJU): 3-2 (h 1-1, a 2-0, n 0-1)
Wright (Villanova): 2-9 (h 1-4, a 0-5, n 1-0)
Mack (Xavier): 0-2 (h 0-1, a 0-1)
Steele (Xavier): 2-4 (h 2-1, a 0-3)


Patrick Ewing’s BE coaching record vs. BE schools:
Creighton: 3-10
Butler: 5-7
DePaul: 4-6
Marquette: 2-10
Providence: 3-8
Seton Hall: 4-11
SJU: 6-8
UConn: 0-6
Villanova: 2-12
Xavier: 2-7

Patrick Ewing’s Big East regular season record:
2017-18 (5-13) = .278
2018-19 (9-9) = .500
2019-20 (5-13) = .278
2020-21 (7-9) = .438
2021-22 (0-19) = .000
2022-23 (2-19) = .095
BET (4-4) = .500

Overall BE regular season record + BET: 32-86 (h 16-39, a 12-42, n 4-5) = .271
Overall BE regular season record: 28-81 (h 16-39, a 11-42) = .256

For reference:
•Craig Esherick’s BE record (1999-2004): BE overall 46-59 (.(438); BE reg. sea. 41–53 (.436); BET 5-6 (.454)
•John Thompson III’s BE record (2005-2017): BE overall 146-106 (.579); BE reg. sea. 131–94 (.580); BET 15-12 (.555)

Notes:
• Patrick Ewing has a career losing record against every current Big East coach, except with BE rookie Matta, and against every BE team.
• Patrick Ewing finally broke the 29-game losing streak in the Big East, which had shattered the previous BE record for most consecutive losses (24) in a season.
• Patrick Ewing has never managed to have a team ranked better than #300 in 3-point defense. That's six consecutive seasons.
• Patrick Ewing finally won his first Big East home game (on 1/24/23) since coming back from the COVID pandemic.
• Patrick Ewing finally won a Big East home game (on 1/24/23) in Capital One Arena since February 8, 2020.
• Patrick Ewing finally won a Big East road game (on 2/19/23), breaking a string of 22 consecutive road losses dating back to Feb. 2021.
• Patrick Ewing's overall coaching record of 75-109 for .407 is the worst coaching record in the modern history of G.U. Men's Basketball.
• Patrick Ewing did not win a single Big East game in the year 2022.
• Patrick Ewing broke the record for the worst KenPom ranking (#232) in Georgetown's history. He ended his sixth season at #225.
• Patrick Ewing lost 34 consecutive games to opponents from major college conferences. Of those 34 games, only 13 were single-digit losses.
• Patrick Ewing’s coaching tenure includes 9 of the 10 smallest regular season home crowds since 1981 and the smallest home crowd ever for an off-campus Big East game (2/22/23 vs SJU).

DFW’s THE RECORD BOOK

Most Losses, One Season
2021-22, 2022-23 - 25
1971-72 - 24
1953-54, 2015-16, 16-17 - 18

Most Losses, One Season (Big East)
2021-22 - 20
2022-23 - 19
2016-17, 17-18, 19-20 - 13
1997-98, 98-99, 03-04 - 12

Most Home Losses
2022-23 - 12
2021-22. - 11
1950-51, 2017-18, 19-20 - 8
1971-72 - 7
2020-21,03-04 - 6

Consecutive Losses (Big East)
2021-2023 - 29
2003-04 - 9
2015-16 - 6

Consecutive Road Losses
2021-2023 - 23
1971-73 21
1931-32 13

[CTHoya08]

It’s even more damning when you compare Ewing’s five completed seasons to JTIII’s five worst seasons. And to be clear, I thought the decision to fire JTIII was correct. It’s just astounding how the standards have evaporated. Anyway, these are JTIII’s five worst years:

2004-05: 8-8, NIT
2008-09: 7-11, NIT
2013-14: 8-10, NIT
2015-16: 7-11
2016-17: 5-13

That’s a 35-53 mark, compared to 30-67 for Ewing in five completed seasons. If you include this year for Ewing, then you get into the question of what was JTIII’s sixth-worst year, and all of the candidates involve an at-large bid and a winning BE record.

Again, not trying to relitigate JTIII’s firing. Just pointing out that the goalposts have apparently moved out of the stadium.

[Elvado]

Pat is certainly a special kind of coach, results wise.

Literally in a league of his own.

[zxhoya]

Those stats are staggering.

From the Greatest collegiate player in the history of the DMV, the Greatest player in the history of the BE, the Greatest player in the history of Georgetown (all my opinion) to now arguably the worst Coach ever in all 3 environ's.

It's truly sad times at GU men's basketball, the very program he put squarely at the top of the map as a player, he's now put at the bottom as the Head Coach.

What will he be most remembered for... I pray that it will be player.

[iowa80]

This may all be Collin Gillespie’s fault

[Bigs"R"Us]

Jan 22, 2023 15:50:51 GMT -5 iowa80 said:

This may all be Collin Gillespie’s fault

Grant Hill’s recruitment really hurt JT2 and Josh Hart devastated JT3

[Elvado]

Jan 22, 2023 16:43:44 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

Jan 22, 2023 15:50:51 GMT -5 iowa80 said:

This may all be Collin Gillespie’s fault

Grant Hill’s recruitment really hurt JT2 and Josh Hart devastated JT3

JT2 also cost himself some big wins with his slowdown tactics.

[augustusfinknottle]

JT II came very close on Wayman Tisdale. Wayman Tisdale said as much.

[hoyaboya]

[hoyaroc]

Jan 27, 2023 11:02:43 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Thanks for your source. 😂

[prhoya]

Jan 27, 2023 16:28:50 GMT -5 hoyaroc said:

Jan 27, 2023 11:02:43 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Thanks for your source. 😂

What’s the funny part of that link?

[hoyajmw]

Jan 22, 2023 16:43:44 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

Jan 22, 2023 15:50:51 GMT -5 iowa80 said:

Grant Hill’s recruitment really hurt JT2 and Josh Hart devastated JT3

The decision not to get Josh -- who really was a fan/wanted to come to GU -- was the beginning of the end and a prime reason why Villanova became the flagship of the conference and we became the white flag of surrender... Also was a bit of a canary in the coalmine as to recruiting missteps by JT3. I loved the guy/great initial hire/class act, but he never did "figure it out" (one of his favorite phrases) last several years...

[Bigs"R"Us]

Jan 28, 2023 8:54:15 GMT -5 hoyajmw said:

Jan 22, 2023 16:43:44 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

Grant Hill’s recruitment really hurt JT2 and Josh Hart devastated JT3

The decision not to get Josh -- who really was a fan/wanted to come to GU -- was the beginning of the end and a prime reason why Villanova became the flagship of the conference and we became the white flag of surrender... Also was a bit of a canary in the coalmine as to recruiting missteps by JT3. I loved the guy/great initial hire/class act, but he never did "figure it out" (one of his favorite phrases) last several years...

Grant Hill resulted in GU passing the throne to Duke.

[SSHoya]

Jan 28, 2023 10:15:42 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

Jan 28, 2023 8:54:15 GMT -5 hoyajmw said:

The decision not to get Josh -- who really was a fan/wanted to come to GU -- was the beginning of the end and a prime reason why Villanova became the flagship of the conference and we became the white flag of surrender... Also was a bit of a canary in the coalmine as to recruiting missteps by JT3. I loved the guy/great initial hire/class act, but he never did "figure it out" (one of his favorite phrases) last several years...

Grant Hill resulted in GU passing the throne to Duke.

The story of how Georgetown (Mary Fenlon's reading test) botched the recruitment is downright embarassing.

[hoyasaxa2003]

Jan 28, 2023 10:53:07 GMT -5 SSHoya said:

Jan 28, 2023 10:15:42 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

Grant Hill resulted in GU passing the throne to Duke.

The story of how Georgetown (Mary Fenlon's reading test) botched the recruitment is downright embarassing.

This was before my time. Where can I learn about this?

[hoyas315]

Jan 28, 2023 11:53:40 GMT -5 hoyasaxa2003 said:

Jan 28, 2023 10:53:07 GMT -5 SSHoya said:

The story of how Georgetown (Mary Fenlon's reading test) botched the recruitment is downright embarassing.

This was before my time. Where can I learn about this?

www.hoyabasketball.com/features/recruits/g_hill.htm

"Coach Thompson was there, and Miss Mary Fenlon, Georgetown's academic adviser," Hill was quoted as having said. "We're sitting in a room and Miss Fenlon hands me a book and says, 'Read this.' I was a little startled, but I took the book and started reading to myself. Then she says, 'I meant, read out loud.' So I started reading out loud. After a page, she stops me and says, 'Now, tell me what you've read.'"

Fenlon's reading test was common to recruits who had come from low income or poor academic environments, a brief examination if they were capable of the level of comprehension Thompson would expect of them. But Grant Hill hadn't grown up in a low income community. Fenlon knew this, of course, but would make no accommodation.

"What does this show? This doesn't show my intelligence,", Hill recalled in a 1994 interview with USA Today. "I was a little offended. So I erased Georgetown from the picture." According to multiple accounts, Hill left the interview vowing never to attend Georgetown University.

[prhoya]

Jan 28, 2023 10:53:07 GMT -5 SSHoya said:

Jan 28, 2023 10:15:42 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

Grant Hill resulted in GU passing the throne to Duke.

The story of how Georgetown (Mary Fenlon's reading test) botched the recruitment is downright embarassing.

What was St. John (Thompson) doing with Mary Fenlon?

www.washingtonian.com/2000/03/01/divorce-washington-style-2/

[prhoya]

“Basketball is a 24-hour, 7-day-a-week job. I just can't do it 24 hours. I could not do it at the level that I demand of myself. That's all this is about. There's no great mystery," said Thompson, who has a 596-239 record and was 10th among active coaches in victories.

www.tampabay.com/archive/1999/01/09/going-going-not-gone-thompson/?outputType=amp

Do you all think Pat works like his mentor? Pat, according to your mentor, if you cannot do it 24/7, it’s time to go.

P.S.: The article mentions how Esh got the job.

[depressedsjufan]

As a SJU fan that also roots for a crappy program, I am fascinated how GT runs its program. You guys actually have money and boosters. As a Knicks fan I have lost respect for Ewing for not stepping down on his own. It's not like he needs the money.

[prhoya]

Jan 31, 2023 10:12:39 GMT -5 depressedsjufan said:

As a SJU fan that also roots for a crappy program, I am fascinated how GT runs its program. You guys actually have money and boosters. As a Knicks fan I have lost respect for Ewing for not stepping down on his own. It's not like he needs the money.

"People complain that pro athletes make a lot of money; but what they don’t understand is that we need a lot of money because we spend a lot of money."
Patrick Ewing

www.basketballnetwork.net/.amp/off-the-court/patrick-ewings-stupid-statement-during-the-1998-lockout