hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 4, 2023 17:23:03 GMT -5
I’m still wondering why anybody thought Ewing was a good guy - he’s never shown any character traits that would exhibit that. You are really on to something here, Hoyaboya. Just because Patrick Ewing has the support of everybody he played or coached with, I mean, why? I certainly trust your judgment over John Thompson and Michael Jordan! not Yes, noted good guy Michael Jordan. If only MJ had hired him as a head coach when he had the chance.
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TC
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Post by TC on Jan 4, 2023 17:25:12 GMT -5
You are really on to something here, Hoyaboya. Just because Patrick Ewing has the support of everybody he played or coached with, I mean, why? Charles Oakley
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jan 4, 2023 17:25:34 GMT -5
I have no idea if Ewing is a good guy or a bad guy. I frankly don’t really care. I know he’s a bad coach.
With that out of the the way: I imagine that, under these circumstances, the knives are coming out and people are exaggerating the negative qualities. BUT, I wouldn’t put much stock in Michael Jordan as a character witness.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jan 6, 2023 10:38:20 GMT -5
I've been thinking about how Ewing's tenure could end, and I don't think that anyone has laid out what I think the full set of possibilities are in one post. I don't think there's any chance that he'll be back next season. As I see it, these are the possibilities:
(1) Ewing is let go midseason. This could be via (1)(a) firing; (1)(b) Ewing announcing a resignation; or (1)(c) a "mutual" announcement. I don't think the differences between (a), (b), and (c) are tremendously meaningful, because in any of those cases, there will be some catharsis for the fanbase. As discussed on the most recent Kente Korner, the injury-depleted state of the roster simply isn't good enough to have to worry about the team somehow winning enough games for Nickelberry to have a solid case to remain on as the full-time coach.
(2) The decision is made to let Ewing go at the end of the season, but he is allowed to coach through the end of the season. This too has sub-categories: (2)(a) they make the decision but don't tell anyone, even Ewing; (2)(b) they tell Ewing, but everyone agrees to keep it quiet while the season goes on; or (2)(c) they make a public announcement. I think (2)(c) is a lot better than either of the other two options--it might be the best of all of the outcomes I can think of--because it allows the fans to breathe a sigh of relief and reduces the acrimony. We can all root for a few wins so Ewing can go out with a little dignity, instead of worrying that change might not actually be happening.
(3) No decision is actually made until the season ends. This is the nightmare scenario, where we find ourselves begging for scraps after all of the top candidates and assistants are scooped up by other programs.
I hope that (2)(c) is the way that the administration handles this, but I fear that it will be (3) (disaster all over again) or either of the other (2) options, which will lead to months more of bickering, sniping, and vitriol toward the program's greatest ever player (and now worst coach).
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TC
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Post by TC on Jan 6, 2023 10:48:14 GMT -5
I feel like with the leak of "we have the funds" and Lee Reed's statement, we're already well into (2)(c), we're just early in the PR.
This is a farewell tour with one stop : MSG. Either things end after January 29th (@stj), or after the BE tourney loss on Wednesday.
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hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on Jan 6, 2023 12:04:05 GMT -5
I feel like with the leak of "we have the funds" and Lee Reed's statement, we're already well into (2)(c), we're just early in the PR. This is a farewell tour with one stop : MSG. Either things end after January 29th (@stj), or after the BE tourney loss on Wednesday. Are you willing to bet your life saving that Ewing is not coach next season?
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 6, 2023 12:27:38 GMT -5
If it meant doubling my life savings…I would say it’s a good bet. That said, there are very few things I would bet my life savings on…and at this juncture Georgetown Basketball isn’t one of those things.
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Post by hoyajmw on Jan 6, 2023 12:39:17 GMT -5
I feel like with the leak of "we have the funds" and Lee Reed's statement, we're already well into (2)(c), we're just early in the PR. This is a farewell tour with one stop : MSG. Either things end after January 29th (@stj), or after the BE tourney loss on Wednesday. Are you willing to bet your life saving that Ewing is not coach next season? Which is the smarter bet: that PE is not the coach next season or that GU wins another game this season if he remains coach? And to answer my own question, I’d much rather bet (my life savings or anything really) that we have a new coach next year than that we gather another win this year. Now, I may be proven wrong as soon as next Tuesday (hosting Seton Hall) or two Tuesdays after (hosting DePaul) but as the drumbeats build from outside (and in) I can’t believe a coaching change isn’t made before next season and I certainly can believe we go winless the rest of this season.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 6, 2023 12:41:07 GMT -5
If it meant doubling my life savings…I would say it’s a good bet. That said, there are very few things I would bet my life savings on…and at this juncture Georgetown Basketball isn’t one of those things. I wonder what the spread will be at Marquette? 😁
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Post by hoyajinx on Jan 6, 2023 12:56:36 GMT -5
If it meant doubling my life savings…I would say it’s a good bet. That said, there are very few things I would bet my life savings on…and at this juncture Georgetown Basketball isn’t one of those things. I wonder what the spread will be at Marquette? 😁 Whatever it is, I’m taking Marquette. It doesn’t seem like bookmakers know exactly how bad we are. The only one I remember losing (off the top of my head) is UConn. It’s been easy money picking against Georgetown all year.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 6, 2023 13:09:42 GMT -5
I wonder what the spread will be at Marquette? 😁 Whatever it is, I’m taking Marquette. It doesn’t seem like bookmakers know exactly how bad we are. The only one I remember losing (off the top of my head) is UConn. It’s been easy money picking against Georgetown all year. IIRC, UConn was -18.5. Quette, my WAG is -14.5 as I think the Hoyas descent is receiving more national attention. And no Heath. I assume Murray and Mozone are back.
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TC
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Post by TC on Jan 6, 2023 19:05:03 GMT -5
I feel like with the leak of "we have the funds" and Lee Reed's statement, we're already well into (2)(c), we're just early in the PR. This is a farewell tour with one stop : MSG. Either things end after January 29th (@stj), or after the BE tourney loss on Wednesday. Are you willing to bet your life saving that Ewing is not coach next season? Trust the Process roc!
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Post by 95hoya on Jan 6, 2023 19:34:03 GMT -5
All those who praised Ewing’s tenure in the NBA was just deference and lip service. Nobody considered hiring him as the head man, that spoke volumes.
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Post by hoyazeke on Jan 6, 2023 20:10:20 GMT -5
If it meant doubling my life savings…I would say it’s a good bet. That said, there are very few things I would bet my life savings on…and at this juncture Georgetown Basketball isn’t one of those things. I'm not a gambling man but right now I would really consider betting every dime of my life savings that Ewing is gone after the season. No one can survive consecutive winless conference seasons. Not even Ewing. And I don't see but 2 possible wins (very slim)left on the schedule.
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 6, 2023 20:22:44 GMT -5
If it meant doubling my life savings…I would say it’s a good bet. That said, there are very few things I would bet my life savings on…and at this juncture Georgetown Basketball isn’t one of those things. I'm not a gambling man but right now I would really consider betting every dime of my life savings that Ewing is gone after the season. No one can survive consecutive winless conference seasons. Not even Ewing. And I don't see but 2 possible wins (very slim)left on the schedule. True. I think the bet is whether he survives the season. I would go 70-30 that he does because that's the Georgetown (JD) way.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 6, 2023 20:30:46 GMT -5
If it meant doubling my life savings…I would say it’s a good bet. That said, there are very few things I would bet my life savings on…and at this juncture Georgetown Basketball isn’t one of those things. Initial line, Quette -18.5, O/U 155. My WAG at Quette -14.5 was optimistic!
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Post by tmj201789 on Jan 6, 2023 21:08:01 GMT -5
Ewing said “I’ll be the head coach at Georgetown until the President or Board decide for me to move on” after the Villanova game.
So resignation is out. And honestly why would he resign and forfeit guaranteed money? Can’t blame him.
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Post by 3xhoya on Jan 6, 2023 21:38:02 GMT -5
Highest likelihood…..
Good old Jack standing next to Amaker or James Jones on a podium with Ronny smiling in a corner.
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