|
Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Oct 25, 2022 9:13:32 GMT -5
I'll say this, I don't see myself clapping for Q this year. Call me petty, but transferring to UMD or Cuse is a lifelong ban in the fan kingdom I live in. Carey transferring there for a sixth year has a different feel though vs. a kid who had a good year and then bounced for some unknown reason.
|
|
EtomicB
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 14,962
|
Post by EtomicB on Oct 25, 2022 9:26:41 GMT -5
Your original post told me to ease up on Temple not having its best player who wasn't a Mark Macon type probably more like a DC type. You ended the post with a shrugged shoulders emoji. Put it this way if i swapped out the Temple kid for Wahab or Carey you'd say i was taking shots at Gtown...I actually wouldn't because your history has been to defend the players and attack the admin/coaches. If you made a comment about the staff that could be viewed either way I would assume you meant the negative. My history has to been to defend the staff/players so I should get the benefit of the doubt that I wasn't taking a shot at the players. I do consider myself to be a honest evaluator so I'm not going to say someone is great when they are just average. I believe that players have defined roles and abilities and you have to be a Otto/DSR type of player to really affect the competitiveness of a game. Whomever Temple's 2nd best player is isn't changing how this game went down. And DC wouldn't either🤷🏾‍♂️🤣 You're expecting a lot of reading between the lines, if you think anyone would get your explanation of your original post.. I believe your point that only great players affect the competitiveness of games is completely wrong..
|
|
EtomicB
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 14,962
|
Post by EtomicB on Oct 25, 2022 9:27:48 GMT -5
I actually wouldn't because your history has been to defend the players and attack the admin/coaches. If you made a comment about the staff that could be viewed either way I would assume you meant the negative. My history has to been to defend the staff/players so I should get the benefit of the doubt that I wasn't taking a shot at the players. I do consider myself to be a honest evaluator so I'm not going to say someone is great when they are just average. I believe that players have defined roles and abilities and you have to be a Otto/DSR type of player to really affect the competitiveness of a game. Whomever Temple's 2nd best player is isn't changing how this game went down. And DC wouldn't either🤷🏾‍♂️🤣 Notice he loves Don Carey now that he’s not on the team. He trashed Q when he was here the first time, then loved Q when he was on Maryland. Now that Q is back here, Theodore will have to diminish Q. Highly predictable. Please back any of this up with evidence Professor
|
|
|
Post by professorhoya on Oct 25, 2022 9:29:05 GMT -5
I'll say this, I don't see myself clapping for Q this year. Call me petty, but transferring to UMD or Cuse is a lifelong ban in the fan kingdom I live in. Carey transferring there for a sixth year has a different feel though vs. a kid who had a good year and then bounced for some unknown reason. Agreed. Don Carey is a grown as man, who was team captain. Should have known better than transferring to College Park of all places. Not much of a leader or a man.
|
|
hoya9797
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,207
|
Post by hoya9797 on Oct 25, 2022 11:04:08 GMT -5
I'll say this, I don't see myself clapping for Q this year. Call me petty, but transferring to UMD or Cuse is a lifelong ban in the fan kingdom I live in. Carey transferring there for a sixth year has a different feel though vs. a kid who had a good year and then bounced for some unknown reason. Agreed. Don Carey is a grown as man, who was team captain. Should have known better than transferring to College Park of all places. Not much of a leader or a man. He went to a better situation with a better coach and got to stay close to home which may have been an important factor. Not sure how you can criticize that decision.
|
|
hoyaguy
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 1,861
|
Post by hoyaguy on Oct 25, 2022 11:14:52 GMT -5
Agreed. Don Carey is a grown as man, who was team captain. Should have known better than transferring to College Park of all places. Not much of a leader or a man. He went to a better situation with a better coach and got to stay close to home which may have been an important factor. Not sure how you can criticize that decision. Other than 97's usual points, I don't think it is a massive deal bc it's not like Gtown/maryland is some huge rivalry and I wouldn't put it nearly on the same level as Cuse and being closer to home is a fair thing to want so eh we have bigger problems rn
|
|
|
Post by trillesthoya on Oct 25, 2022 11:19:30 GMT -5
All these kids have reasons for transferring or not transferring and it’s unnecessary to hold grudges especially if they decide to come back. I’m rooting for anyone in a Georgetown jersey and Q is doing that, and you all should too.
|
|
hoyazeke
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 5,818
|
Post by hoyazeke on Oct 25, 2022 11:36:44 GMT -5
I actually wouldn't because your history has been to defend the players and attack the admin/coaches. If you made a comment about the staff that could be viewed either way I would assume you meant the negative. My history has to been to defend the staff/players so I should get the benefit of the doubt that I wasn't taking a shot at the players. I do consider myself to be a honest evaluator so I'm not going to say someone is great when they are just average. I believe that players have defined roles and abilities and you have to be a Otto/DSR type of player to really affect the competitiveness of a game. Whomever Temple's 2nd best player is isn't changing how this game went down. And DC wouldn't either🤷🏾‍♂️🤣 You're expecting a lot of reading between the lines, if you think anyone would get your explanation of your original post.. I believe your point that only great players affect the competitiveness of games is completely wrong.. Etomic I'll leave it at this, my 1st or 2nd post on this topic I said something close to "affect competitiveness from close game to blowout". I stand by that remark.
|
|
calhoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,362
|
Post by calhoya on Oct 25, 2022 11:39:08 GMT -5
All these kids have reasons for transferring or not transferring and it’s unnecessary to hold grudges especially if they decide to come back. I’m rooting for anyone in a Georgetown jersey and Q is doing that, and you all should too. Agree with this. My only complaint with Wahab will be if he has not improved in his decision-making when the ball comes in to him, and he unnecessarily puts in on the floor, fails to make a decisive move to the basket or fails to kick it out to the open shooter. As I recall, his weakness a couple of years ago was that he would never kick it out or would try to dribble in the paint while double-teamed and lose the ball. Don't know if this was fixed last year, as I never watch Maryland games.
|
|
conshyhoya
Silver Hoya (over 500 posts)
Posts: 813
|
Post by conshyhoya on Oct 25, 2022 11:45:56 GMT -5
All these kids have reasons for transferring or not transferring and it’s unnecessary to hold grudges especially if they decide to come back. I’m rooting for anyone in a Georgetown jersey and Q is doing that, and you all should too. Agree with this. My only complaint with Wahab will be if he has not improved in his decision-making when the ball comes in to him, and he unnecessarily puts in on the floor, fails to make a decisive move to the basket or fails to kick it out to the open shooter. As I recall, his weakness a couple of years ago was that he would never kick it out or would try to dribble in the paint while double-teamed and lose the ball. Don't know if this was fixed last year, as I never watch Maryland games. I watched numerous of their games and he was pretty much the same player with general growth of someone being in college another year. He did seem to pass out more often though than previous years which was a low bar but still put the ball down and was stripped a lot in the games I saw.
|
|
IDenj
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 2,528
|
Post by IDenj on Oct 25, 2022 19:12:07 GMT -5
People understand this was an exhibition game right? Coaches try things to see what they have. Let it play out.
|
|
IDenj
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 2,528
|
Post by IDenj on Oct 25, 2022 19:12:18 GMT -5
.
|
|
hoyainla
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Suspended
Posts: 4,719
|
Post by hoyainla on Oct 25, 2022 23:40:07 GMT -5
This won't slow down the defensive struggles talk...scrimmage or not. Without knowing much except who didnt play and a few individual stats I think the biggest takeaway is not that the defense struggled and none of the "slow bigs" played. Hicks is almsot strictly a 3 point shooter and Battle shoots his fair share of jumpers as well. A defense without Q and Ryan should work well against Temple but that doesn't seem to be the case.
|
|
dchoya72
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,488
|
Post by dchoya72 on Oct 26, 2022 6:46:44 GMT -5
He went to a better situation with a better coach and got to stay close to home which may have been an important factor. Not sure how you can criticize that decision. Other than 97's usual points, I don't think it is a massive deal bc it's not like Gtown/maryland is some huge rivalry and I wouldn't put it nearly on the same level as Cuse and being closer to home is a fair thing to want so eh we have bigger problems rn Professor, Are you serious.. "not much of a leader or a man?" Get a life, it's only basketball! He could have done more, but the team was unfortunately counting on Aminu. He, like LJ was good but flawed. I think your statement about Don Carey is pretty low."
|
|
|
Post by professorhoya on Oct 26, 2022 11:33:58 GMT -5
Other than 97's usual points, I don't think it is a massive deal bc it's not like Gtown/maryland is some huge rivalry and I wouldn't put it nearly on the same level as Cuse and being closer to home is a fair thing to want so eh we have bigger problems rn Professor, Are you serious.. "not much of a leader or a man?" Get a life, it's only basketball! He could have done more, but the team was unfortunately counting on Aminu. He, like LJ was good but flawed. I think your statement about Don Carey is pretty low." This illustrates my point precisely. The lot of you will trash or stand idly by while Ewing, Thompson and the current players are unsparingly trashed and then vociferously and emotionally defend players who have left the program for rival programs. It’s disgusting behavior to be honest.
|
|
bigskyhoya
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 1,095
|
Post by bigskyhoya on Oct 26, 2022 13:54:21 GMT -5
Professor, Are you serious.. "not much of a leader or a man?" Get a life, it's only basketball! He could have done more, but the team was unfortunately counting on Aminu. He, like LJ was good but flawed. I think your statement about Don Carey is pretty low." This illustrates my point precisely. The lot of you will trash or stand idly by while Ewing, Thompson and the current players are unsparingly trashed and then vociferously and emotionally defend players who have left the program for rival programs. It’s disgusting behavior to be honest. You get my vote for oddball post of the year, despite stiff competition.
|
|
hoyaboya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 12,488
|
Post by hoyaboya on Oct 27, 2022 14:39:39 GMT -5
FINAL SCRIMMAGE THIS WEEKEND The Flames are nearing the end of their preseason practice and will compete in their second closed preseason scrimmage this weekend. Liberty played Virginia Tech in a closed scrimmage at Liberty Arena earlier this month and will compete against Georgetown on Saturday. “We scrimmage Georgetown this weekend,” McKay said. “That will be a really good test for us. They’ve got an influx of transfers, talent. That is a testament to what our guys have done. When we first got here, we were scrimmaging people like us or even Division II’s, which were healthy for us don’t get me wrong, but now we don’t get to play high major teams (during the regular season) but we get to scrimmage some. I think it says we’ve come a little bit of a ways. I think our guys are really anxious to get to those games.” www.aseaofred.com/liberty-mens-basketball-notebook-mckay-on-expanding-ncaat-georgetown-scrimmage-more/
|
|
|
Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Oct 27, 2022 17:09:53 GMT -5
Professor, Are you serious.. "not much of a leader or a man?" Get a life, it's only basketball! He could have done more, but the team was unfortunately counting on Aminu. He, like LJ was good but flawed. I think your statement about Don Carey is pretty low." This illustrates my point precisely. The lot of you will trash or stand idly by while Ewing, Thompson and the current players are unsparingly trashed and then vociferously and emotionally defend players who have left the program for rival programs. It’s disgusting behavior to be honest. I agree that it's pointless to trash guys who left the program. I have never understood that (the Akinjo hate has been high, but others get it too). That said, it's a part of sports fandom to hate the guys who leave or go to rivals. I wish anybody who leaves our program success. The fact is, as much as we love Georgetown, it's just not a fit for everybody, and there's nothing wrong with that. I similarly did not understand the people who didn't want Wahab back. Sure, the guy left, but he came back, and he was clearly the best player available in a position of need. For Wahab to do that, he had to eat a lot of humble pie. I think if he can stomach that, Georgetown fans can too.
|
|
prhoya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 23,358
|
Post by prhoya on Oct 27, 2022 18:27:36 GMT -5
This illustrates my point precisely. The lot of you will trash or stand idly by while Ewing, Thompson and the current players are unsparingly trashed and then vociferously and emotionally defend players who have left the program for rival programs. It’s disgusting behavior to be honest. I agree that it's pointless to trash guys who left the program. I have never understood that (the Akinjo hate has been high, but others get it too). That said, it's a part of sports fandom to hate the guys who leave or go to rivals. I wish anybody who leaves our program success. The fact is, as much as we love Georgetown, it's just not a fit for everybody, and there's nothing wrong with that. I similarly did not understand the people who didn't want Wahab back. Sure, the guy left, but he came back, and he was clearly the best player available in a position of need. For Wahab to do that, he had to eat a lot of humble pie. I think if he can stomach that, Georgetown fans can too. Although he tried, Pat couldn’t get any one better than Qudus in his position. We’re lucky to have Qudus “The Prodigal Son” back.
|
|
seaweed
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,670
|
Post by seaweed on Oct 29, 2022 8:19:14 GMT -5
Allegedly mixing it up w Darius McGhee and the Liberty Flames today. www.liberty.edu/flames/mens-basketball/roster/Liberty is KenPom #82, for whatever that is worth at this time of year, and pre-season #1 in the Atlantic Sun. McGhee is a Cousey Award watchlister and pre-season POTY in the ASun. Should be a decent run for our GU Hoyas and a chance to see if back court/perimeter GFense has improved. Expect the usual trickle of conflicting and confusing news to emerge as we cross the 10 day threshold before real games begin. #HoyaSaxa #123Fireballs
|
|