hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Oct 24, 2022 12:35:50 GMT -5
A bit disappointed to hear that Ryan only played about 3 minutes but maybe with Wahab ill, Patrick decided to see how small ball would work out. Glad Akok stepped up. Keep in mind with all scrimmages, take them with a grain of salt. That's not what I did Etomic? I didn't say either were scrubs or bad players. I said that not one singular player being missing affects competitiveness of Temple. I always later cleared up by saying GTown may have 1. I simply used DC as a example of the type of a average to good college player.
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Post by seaweed on Oct 24, 2022 12:48:49 GMT -5
A bit disappointed to hear that Ryan only played about 3 minutes but maybe with Wahab ill, Patrick decided to see how small ball would work out. Glad Akok stepped up. Keep in mind with all scrimmages, take them with a grain of salt. I'd imagine Ryan missed some practice time recently given his Dad's situation, which could also impact current readiness.
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Post by prhoya on Oct 24, 2022 12:49:16 GMT -5
A bit disappointed to hear that Ryan only played about 3 minutes but maybe with Wahab ill, Patrick decided to see how small ball would work out. Glad Akok stepped up. Keep in mind with all scrimmages, take them with a grain of salt. That's not what I did Etomic? I didn't say either were scrubs or bad players. I said that not one singular player being missing affects competitiveness of Temple. I always later cleared up by saying GTown may have 1. I simply used DC as a example of the type of a average to good college player. I would take DC back in a heartbeat, take the ball/dribbling out of his hands, and leave him moving around the perimeter. If Murray is as good as advertised, and Qudus plays like sophomore Qudus, DC would average 4 3pts a game. DC would have a field day vs. Pat’s defensive scheme.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 24, 2022 12:55:43 GMT -5
A bit disappointed to hear that Ryan only played about 3 minutes but maybe with Wahab ill, Patrick decided to see how small ball would work out. Glad Akok stepped up. Keep in mind with all scrimmages, take them with a grain of salt. That's not what I did Etomic? I didn't say either were scrubs or bad players. I said that not one singular player being missing affects competitiveness of Temple. I always later cleared up by saying GTown may have 1. I simply used DC as a example of the type of a average to good college player. So you think Temple’s best player makes a negligible impact on the team?
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Post by hoyazeke on Oct 24, 2022 13:17:06 GMT -5
That's not what I did Etomic? I didn't say either were scrubs or bad players. I said that not one singular player being missing affects competitiveness of Temple. I always later cleared up by saying GTown may have 1. I simply used DC as a example of the type of a average to good college player. So you think Temple’s best player makes a negligible impact on the team?[/quot Temple's best player played. Khalif Battle is Temple's best player. There 2nd best player last season was Dunn. He averaged around 15pts. A solid player but not shifting the fulcrum from competitive to blowout. For example Primo averaged 13pts in the A10 and you wouldn't be screaming if he missed the game🤷🏾♂️
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 24, 2022 13:37:08 GMT -5
A bit disappointed to hear that Ryan only played about 3 minutes but maybe with Wahab ill, Patrick decided to see how small ball would work out. Glad Akok stepped up. Keep in mind with all scrimmages, take them with a grain of salt. That's not what I did Etomic? I didn't say either were scrubs or bad players. I said that not one singular player being missing affects competitiveness of Temple. I always later cleared up by saying GTown may have 1. I simply used DC as a example of the type of a average to good college player. Your original post told me to ease up on Temple not having its best player who wasn't a Mark Macon type probably more like a DC type. You ended the post with a shrugged shoulders emoji. Put it this way if i swapped out the Temple kid for Wahab or Carey you'd say i was taking shots at Gtown...
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Post by thedragon on Oct 24, 2022 14:00:29 GMT -5
This won't slow down the defensive struggles talk...scrimmage or not.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Oct 24, 2022 14:29:46 GMT -5
It sure sounds like there is lots of information one can take to the bank on this scrimmage...
I am glad to hear that Murray played well.
I hope that Q is in fact healthy.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 24, 2022 14:56:56 GMT -5
I wonder how many points Murray had to score in the last 5-7 minutes to make it just a 9 point game?
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Post by prhoya on Oct 24, 2022 15:35:28 GMT -5
9-point loss? That’s Pat’s definition of a close game.
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Post by hoyaboya on Oct 24, 2022 15:52:21 GMT -5
9-point loss? That’s Pat’s definition of a close game. To be fair, it was a road game. So on a neutral court, we’re really only 6 points worse than Temple without one of its best players.
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Oct 24, 2022 17:39:51 GMT -5
Not understanding low minutes in a scrimmage for any player. Come on coaches get the players some pt and experience.
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Post by daveg023 on Oct 24, 2022 17:54:36 GMT -5
I’m not sure I take too much stock in these scrimmages, but why are we surprised that Temple would beat us? To me a mid-tier AAC team is basically what we’ve shown ourselves to be, and thinking we should curb stomp someone like them is foolish.
Yes I hope we will be better than that at some point during this season as we incorporate all the new pieces, but I also think many on here are overestimating the talent upgrade. I think we are a little more talented than last year, but I still don’t think this is a Top 50 roster. So absent some major boost from coaching (ducks for cover), being at the level of Temple right now feels about right. And again it’s a scrimmage. I take the result with a total grain of salt.
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Post by kghoya on Oct 24, 2022 18:17:44 GMT -5
Last season the Hoyas were good at trailing by large margins throughout play only to end losing by 9ish.
Of course we have no idea. Hope they play an exhibition at some point in the future
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 24, 2022 18:39:15 GMT -5
Last season the Hoyas were good at trailing by large margins throughout play only to end losing by 9ish. Of course we have no idea. Hope they play an exhibition at some point in the future Others may have a differing recall but the reason for that was because Coach Ewing would leave our starters in while our opponents would put in its second string. We never gave any run to our own second string resulting in losses that were worse than the final score but appeared "respectable."
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 24, 2022 18:43:48 GMT -5
Last season the Hoyas were good at trailing by large margins throughout play only to end losing by 9ish. Of course we have no idea. Hope they play an exhibition at some point in the future Others may have a differeing recall but the reason for that was because Coach Ewing would leave our starters in while our opponents would put in its second string. We never gave any run to our own second string resulting in losses that were worse than the final score but appeared "respectable." The team probably ended up 50 spots higher in the Ken Pom rankings because of this.
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Post by prhoya on Oct 24, 2022 20:35:49 GMT -5
Last season the Hoyas were good at trailing by large margins throughout play only to end losing by 9ish. Of course we have no idea. Hope they play an exhibition at some point in the future Others may have a differeing recall but the reason for that was because Coach Ewing would leave our starters in while our opponents would put in its second string. We never gave any run to our own second string resulting in losses that were worse than the final score but appeared "respectable." I saw every televised/streamed game. That is exactly what happened. There’s no difference between losing by 20 pts than by 9, except for Vegas.
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Post by SDHoya on Oct 24, 2022 20:47:20 GMT -5
We can all agree Hoyas were bad last year. Fortunately it’s no longer last year.
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Post by hoyazeke on Oct 25, 2022 5:57:18 GMT -5
That's not what I did Etomic? I didn't say either were scrubs or bad players. I said that not one singular player being missing affects competitiveness of Temple. I always later cleared up by saying GTown may have 1. I simply used DC as a example of the type of a average to good college player. Your original post told me to ease up on Temple not having its best player who wasn't a Mark Macon type probably more like a DC type. You ended the post with a shrugged shoulders emoji. Put it this way if i swapped out the Temple kid for Wahab or Carey you'd say i was taking shots at Gtown...I actually wouldn't because your history has been to defend the players and attack the admin/coaches. If you made a comment about the staff that could be viewed either way I would assume you meant the negative. My history has to been to defend the staff/players so I should get the benefit of the doubt that I wasn't taking a shot at the players. I do consider myself to be a honest evaluator so I'm not going to say someone is great when they are just average. I believe that players have defined roles and abilities and you have to be a Otto/DSR type of player to really affect the competitiveness of a game. Whomever Temple's 2nd best player is isn't changing how this game went down. And DC wouldn't either🤷🏾♂️🤣
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 25, 2022 8:51:41 GMT -5
Your original post told me to ease up on Temple not having its best player who wasn't a Mark Macon type probably more like a DC type. You ended the post with a shrugged shoulders emoji. Put it this way if i swapped out the Temple kid for Wahab or Carey you'd say i was taking shots at Gtown...I actually wouldn't because your history has been to defend the players and attack the admin/coaches. If you made a comment about the staff that could be viewed either way I would assume you meant the negative. My history has to been to defend the staff/players so I should get the benefit of the doubt that I wasn't taking a shot at the players. I do consider myself to be a honest evaluator so I'm not going to say someone is great when they are just average. I believe that players have defined roles and abilities and you have to be a Otto/DSR type of player to really affect the competitiveness of a game. Whomever Temple's 2nd best player is isn't changing how this game went down. And DC wouldn't either🤷🏾♂️🤣 Notice he loves Don Carey now that he’s not on the team. He trashed Q when he was here the first time, then loved Q when he was on Maryland. Now that Q is back here, Theodore will have to diminish Q. Highly predictable.
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