hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on May 9, 2022 18:29:19 GMT -5
It does take awhile, lots of ingredients and delicious. I would like another ingredient like alligator meat in it, exotic, but it tastes like chicken!! Ditto for armadillo meat, although not sure I've ever heard of that in gumbo.
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hoya73
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Post by hoya73 on May 9, 2022 21:25:31 GMT -5
Strictly a roadkill taste.
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Post by prhoya on May 9, 2022 21:27:38 GMT -5
It does take awhile, lots of ingredients and delicious. About five seasons? Or nine with the extension? It’s the most expensive gumbo in the world. So Georgetown.
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TC
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Post by TC on May 9, 2022 21:53:24 GMT -5
It does take awhile, lots of ingredients and delicious. I would like another ingredient like alligator meat in it, exotic, but it tastes like chicken!! Is that something that a LSU assistant can help you buy when you hire them?
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Post by daveg023 on May 9, 2022 21:54:36 GMT -5
So our HOF center coach has had how many centers he’s recruited develop as All BE players in his 5+ years?
If you want to count Yurt’s one year and an All BE honorable mention, I’ll even give you that one. If there was one thing even the biggest Ewing haters would have conceded, it was at least he’ll get and develop some prime center talent. Ironically I think he’s mangled the 5 spot more than any other position on the roster.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on May 10, 2022 1:49:10 GMT -5
It does take awhile, lots of ingredients and delicious. I would like another ingredient like alligator meat in it, exotic, but it tastes like chicken!! Ditto for armadillo meat, although not sure I've ever heard of that in gumbo. Oh, you've eatened that?!
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on May 10, 2022 1:52:01 GMT -5
It does take awhile, lots of ingredients and delicious. About five seasons? Or nine with the extension? It’s the most expensive gumbo in the world. So Georgetown. We've had not so great squads for awhile. It didnt start with Ewing, though his tenure has been snakebitten!
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on May 10, 2022 1:54:55 GMT -5
So our HOF center coach has had how many centers he’s recruited develop as All BE players in his 5+ years? If you want to count Yurt’s one year and an All BE honorable mention, I’ll even give you that one. If there was one thing even the biggest Ewing haters would have conceded, it was at least he’ll get and develop some prime center talent. Ironically I think he’s mangled the 5 spot more than any other position on the roster. It started with Chris Sodom and trickled down hill from there. Wahab wasn't bad, and then he wasn't a Hoya. Mysteries abound with this program!
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on May 10, 2022 6:14:24 GMT -5
Is it possible no "big guys" want to play for Ewing because they believe that the "back-to-the-basketball" big man approach is simply not a path to the NBA? That Ewing is wedded to a 1980s version of a 5?
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Post by dchoya72 on May 10, 2022 6:24:58 GMT -5
So our HOF center coach has had how many centers he’s recruited develop as All BE players in his 5+ years? If you want to count Yurt’s one year and an All BE honorable mention, I’ll even give you that one. If there was one thing even the biggest Ewing haters would have conceded, it was at least he’ll get and develop some prime center talent. Ironically I think he’s mangled the 5 spot more than any other position on the roster. It started with Chris Sodom and trickled down hill fro there. Wahab wasn't bad, and then he wasn't a Hoya. Mysteries abound with this program!
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on May 10, 2022 6:31:54 GMT -5
Is it possible no "big guys" want to play for Ewing because they believe that the "back-to-the-basketball" big man approach is simply not a path to the NBA? That Ewing is wedded to a 1980s version of a 5? I don't know that he is. He played back to the basket at Georgetown, but not exclusively while with the Knicks. Maybe he hasnt recruited guys capable of successfully playing facing the basket. Omerseven might have but the Hoyas had no rebounders. He, Ewing, has not done a great job of constructing a strong roster.
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Post by dchoya72 on May 10, 2022 6:32:24 GMT -5
Is it possible no "big guys" want to play for Ewing because they believe that the "back-to-the-basketball" big man approach is simply not a path to the NBA? That Ewing is wedded to a 1980s version of a 5? I don't know that he is. He played back to the basket atY Georgetown, but not exclusively while with the Knicks. Maybe he hasnt recruited guys capable of successfully playing facing the basket. Omerseven might have but the Hoyas had no rebounders. He, Ewing, has not done a great job of constructing a strong roster.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on May 10, 2022 6:36:18 GMT -5
Is it possible no "big guys" want to play for Ewing because they believe that the "back-to-the-basketball" big man approach is simply not a path to the NBA? That Ewing is wedded to a 1980s version of a 5? I don't know that he is. He played back to the basket atY Georgetown, but not exclusively while with the Knicks. Maybe he hasnt recruited guys capable of successfully playing facing the basket. Omerseven might have but the Hoyas had no rebounders. He, Ewing, has not done a great job of constructing a strong roster. How about the perception of potential recruits that Ewing is wedded to an old-fashioned 5, and perhaps the competition recruits against the Hoyas by stating that? Recruits are probably unfamiliar with Ewing's pro game although their parents probably are.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 10, 2022 7:26:31 GMT -5
Is it possible no "big guys" want to play for Ewing because they believe that the "back-to-the-basketball" big man approach is simply not a path to the NBA? That Ewing is wedded to a 1980s version of a 5? I don't know that he is. He played back to the basket at Georgetown, but not exclusively while with the Knicks. Maybe he hasnt recruited guys capable of successfully playing facing the basket. Omerseven might have but the Hoyas had no rebounders. He, Ewing, has not done a great job of constructing a strong roster. Pickett was a great rebounder when Yurt was there. That wasn't it.
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Post by 78HOYA78 on May 10, 2022 7:56:40 GMT -5
All great points - The only way to be an effective back-to-the-basket player is if the opposing team is playing man-to-man. On a another point, if my memory is still in tact, the Hoyas played mostly zone during Ewing's era and the opposing team played zone against us. When he got to the pros then his back-to the-basket fadeaway/jumper developed. Also, I remember when I went to the Villanova game Ewing insisted on pounding the ball inside to Wahab/Ighoefe and they would make their move but no one would be crashing the boards. And we were a lot taller then they were.
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Post by prhoya on May 10, 2022 8:01:52 GMT -5
So our HOF center coach has had how many centers he’s recruited develop as All BE players in his 5+ years? If you want to count Yurt’s one year and an All BE honorable mention, I’ll even give you that one. If there was one thing even the biggest Ewing haters would have conceded, it was at least he’ll get and develop some prime center talent. Ironically I think he’s mangled the 5 spot more than any other position on the roster. It started with Chris Sodom and trickled down hill from there. Wahab wasn't bad, and then he wasn't a Hoya. Mysteries abound with this program! The buck stops where?
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Post by cas92 on May 10, 2022 8:26:43 GMT -5
Is it possible no "big guys" want to play for Ewing because they believe that the "back-to-the-basketball" big man approach is simply not a path to the NBA? That Ewing is wedded to a 1980s version of a 5? The modern 5 is Evan Mobley, late of USC and currently w/ the Cleveland Cavaliers - mobile and able to guard his man on the perimeter (not being blown by) - that's where the league is headed and the attendant effect likely will continue to impact on ranks below including college and high school. Jokic may appear lumbering, but he's quite agile and an exceptional passer. No one's actively trying to dump the ball in the paint and let their big man operate there - look @ the so-called "Death Lineup" that the Warriors have trotted out in different iterations - Durant / Draymond Green @ the 5 previously and Green currently anchoring the current version - and forcing the opposition to match up w/ just how much faster the Warriors are in that configuration, outscoring opponents 14 + more often than not. Yao Ming (under Ewing's tutelage in Houston) would be run off the floor in today's NBA (Embiid is not a slow footed 5).
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Post by 78HOYA78 on May 10, 2022 8:32:25 GMT -5
What about Brook Lopez - he seems to be a traditional 5 and is somewhat effective. I could not believe that the Knicks passed on him in the draft.
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Post by SSHoya on May 10, 2022 8:42:48 GMT -5
Is it possible no "big guys" want to play for Ewing because they believe that the "back-to-the-basketball" big man approach is simply not a path to the NBA? That Ewing is wedded to a 1980s version of a 5? The modern 5 is Evan Mobley, late of USC and currently w/ the Cleveland Cavaliers - mobile and able to guard his man on the perimeter (not being blown by) - that's where the league is headed and the attendant effect likely will continue to impact on ranks below including college and high school. Jokic may appear lumbering, but he's quite agile and an exceptional passer. No one's actively trying to dump the ball in the paint and let their big man operate there - look @ the so-called "Death Lineup" that the Warriors have trotted out in different iterations - Durant / Draymond Green @ the 5 previously and Green currently anchoring the current version - and forcing the opposition to match up w/ just how much faster the Warriors are in that configuration, outscoring opponents 14 + more often than not. Yao Ming (under Ewing's tutelage in Houston) would be run off the floor in today's NBA (Embiid is not a slow footed 5). Roy Hibbert was the greatest thing for the Pacers . . . until he wasn't. Game has evolved and maybe Ewing hasn't.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 10, 2022 8:54:46 GMT -5
What about Brook Lopez - he seems to be a traditional 5 and is somewhat effective. I could not believe that the Knicks passed on him in the draft. Lopez is a good example but he can shoot & pass. With his height, he sags back a lot and they help over on his guy. It makes his perimeter D passable.
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