boxout05
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Post by boxout05 on Mar 17, 2022 1:06:43 GMT -5
He’s relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things but why does Bill Howze have a job as DOBO? Why was the one assistant coach who played with Pat retained while the other two released after an 0-20 BE season? Why was the first guy contacted to be a replacement someone who already coached at Gtown, both before and AFTER he cratered and committed academic fraud at SUNY Binghamton? Why should Pat have been hired above all others, been given a $12M extension WILDLY out of line with the rest of the industry, or be extended again if he were to follow up 0-20 with a series of 7-13 BE seasons? And why the hell are you so resistant to these kinds of questions?
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hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on Mar 17, 2022 2:39:19 GMT -5
He’s relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things but why does Bill Howze have a job as DOBO? Why was the one assistant coach who played with Pat retained while the other two released after an 0-20 BE season? Why was the first guy contacted to be a replacement someone who already coached at Gtown, both before and AFTER he cratered and committed academic fraud at SUNY Binghamton? Why should Pat have been hired above all others, been given a $12M extension WILDLY out of line with the rest of the industry, or be extended again if he were to follow up 0-20 with a series of 7-13 BE seasons? And why the hell are you so resistant to these kinds of questions? Georgetown don’t care about the industry. Seriously, I hope you guys get a reality check real soon.
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 17, 2022 6:07:31 GMT -5
Preface this by saying I hope we got 20-0 next year and win the title…but that doesn’t seem likely based on past results and current rumors. CTHoya08, Are we at the point where Pat’s salary keeps him around for 2-3 years regardless of results, so may as well get some good assistants and recruits to end up with a “respectable” 7-13 each year until his contract runs out? If the alternative is hoping for a 1-19 record to doom him only to be disappointed when he sticks around year after year…that’s worse, right? It’s my hope, probably overly optimistic, that if we finish something like 3-17 or worse next year, it will be too much for even this administration to stomach and they’ll bite the bullet. But you’re right that they might not, and we could be looking at multiple years of that level of futility. If we’re stuck with Ewing for three years, of course I’d rather average seven wins over those years than three. I’m clinging to the belief that another season like this one would just be too much to whitewash. I think that some people who follow the program less closely that we do (NY Post columnists, classmates who have become more apathetic with the passage of time, and apparently the administration) have bought into the idea that this year is an aberration and Ewing should get one more chance. I don’t agree with that (and it doesn’t make sense—if the school wants to give him another chance, he really would need multiple years). But if the thought process really is “let’s give him one more season as a mulligan for this one,” another unmitigated disaster is more likely to put us out of our misery than a six-win season (which would still put us in 10th or 11th place!).
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 17, 2022 7:15:49 GMT -5
It’s almost impossible to match the futility of this season, so coach is in a good spot. Pad the pre-conference schedule to get wins and hope for 4-6 wins in conference. Any better than that and Pat will be a hero.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 17, 2022 7:41:40 GMT -5
It’s almost impossible to match the futility of this season, so coach is in a good spot. Pad the pre-conference schedule to get wins and hope for 4-6 wins in conference. Any better than that and Pat will be a hero. “Hero”
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 17, 2022 8:56:10 GMT -5
He’s relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things but why does Bill Howze have a job as DOBO? Why was the one assistant coach who played with Pat retained while the other two released after an 0-20 BE season? Why was the first guy contacted to be a replacement someone who already coached at Gtown, both before and AFTER he cratered and committed academic fraud at SUNY Binghamton? Why should Pat have been hired above all others, been given a $12M extension WILDLY out of line with the rest of the industry, or be extended again if he were to follow up 0-20 with a series of 7-13 BE seasons? And why the hell are you so resistant to these kinds of questions? The "logic" behind our staffing decisions over the past several years is really something to behold. It would be pretty funny if I didn't care so much about the program. "Alright guys, here's the plan. We're going to fire the actual best basketball mind in our little club here. But we're going to replace him with the only guy on the planet who will be even more difficult to fire. He doesn't actually know the college game at all and admits he doesn't really want the job, but it doesn't matter because the people in charge will never have the balls to fire him. Then, we're going to surround him with a bunch of other club members who helped the first guy to flame out. We'll sprinkle in a couple of our lifelong friends and a family member or two where we can, and we'll be all set. Our little group is gonna make millions and millions of dollars off these dopes!"
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Post by hsaxon on Mar 17, 2022 9:18:56 GMT -5
He’s relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things but why does Bill Howze have a job as DOBO? Why was the one assistant coach who played with Pat retained while the other two released after an 0-20 BE season? Why was the first guy contacted to be a replacement someone who already coached at Gtown, both before and AFTER he cratered and committed academic fraud at SUNY Binghamton? Why should Pat have been hired above all others, been given a $12M extension WILDLY out of line with the rest of the industry, or be extended again if he were to follow up 0-20 with a series of 7-13 BE seasons? And why the hell are you so resistant to these kinds of questions? Is Bill Howze linked to JT2?
Why is he GU's DOBO?
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alleninxis
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Post by alleninxis on Mar 17, 2022 9:27:11 GMT -5
The hilarious part is JTIII knew how useless Howze was and fired him. Only for Ronny to bring him back.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 17, 2022 9:56:44 GMT -5
It’s almost impossible to match the futility of this season, so coach is in a good spot. Pad the pre-conference schedule to get wins and hope for 4-6 wins in conference. Any better than that and Pat will be a hero. So dramatic....with whom will 6 conference wins make coach a hero? He's already a hero with those people. He needs at least 10 to gain new worshippers. 😁
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hoyas212
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Post by hoyas212 on Mar 17, 2022 10:03:11 GMT -5
He’s relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things but why does Bill Howze have a job as DOBO? Why was the one assistant coach who played with Pat retained while the other two released after an 0-20 BE season? Why was the first guy contacted to be a replacement someone who already coached at Gtown, both before and AFTER he cratered and committed academic fraud at SUNY Binghamton? Why should Pat have been hired above all others, been given a $12M extension WILDLY out of line with the rest of the industry, or be extended again if he were to follow up 0-20 with a series of 7-13 BE seasons? And why the hell are you so resistant to these kinds of questions? Is Bill Howze linked to JT2?
Why is he GU's DOBO?
Longtime friend of Ronny Thompson. His Georgetown bio conveniently omits his work under Ronny during his disastrous Ball State tenure. At every other program, it would be hard to distinguish the DOBO from the assistant coaches. If not for the team issued quarter zip, it would be hard to distinguish Howze from paying fans. Then there’s Irv Horne and Elijah Staley, who’s primary qualifications seem to be friend or relative of Ewing Jr.
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617hoya
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Post by 617hoya on Mar 17, 2022 10:48:41 GMT -5
Is Bill Howze linked to JT2?
Why is he GU's DOBO?
Longtime friend of Ronny Thompson. His Georgetown bio conveniently omits his work under Ronny during his disastrous Ball State tenure. At every other program, it would be hard to distinguish the DOBO from the assistant coaches. If not for the team issued quarter zip, it would be hard to distinguish Howze from paying fans. Then there’s Irv Horne and Elijah Staley, who’s primary qualifications seem to be friend or relative of Ewing Jr. Horne is PE Jr.’s bestfriend from Indiana. Staley is PE Jr.’s step brother. It’s all corrupt.
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playtyler
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Post by playtyler on Mar 17, 2022 11:00:01 GMT -5
In terms of hiring assistant coaches, there is a former Big East Assistant Coach who just became available who has recruited four players on the All Big East Freshman Team in the last five years. He also recruited half of a current Big East roster including a McDOnald's All American and last year's Big East Tournament MVP. I don't know if he would be interested. But, we should reach out. I doubt there is anyone with a better recent recruiting track record who is available.
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boxout05
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Post by boxout05 on Mar 17, 2022 11:15:07 GMT -5
Is Bill Howze linked to JT2? Why is he GU's DOBO?
Longtime friend of Ronny Thompson. His Georgetown bio conveniently omits his work under Ronny during his disastrous Ball State tenure. At every other program, it would be hard to distinguish the DOBO from the assistant coaches. If not for the team issued quarter zip, it would be hard to distinguish Howze from paying fans. Then there’s Irv Horne and Elijah Staley, who’s primary qualifications seem to be friend or relative of Ewing Jr. DOBO is also typically filled by a young staff member who can use it as a stepping stone to get experience for an assistant coach position. Howze graduated in ‘94, so he’s almost 50? Why is he DOBO indeed.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 17, 2022 13:47:08 GMT -5
Garbage in, garbage out.
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hoya73
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Post by hoya73 on Mar 17, 2022 13:58:54 GMT -5
He’s relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things but why does Bill Howze have a job as DOBO? Why was the one assistant coach who played with Pat retained while the other two released after an 0-20 BE season? Why was the first guy contacted to be a replacement someone who already coached at Gtown, both before and AFTER he cratered and committed academic fraud at SUNY Binghamton? Why should Pat have been hired above all others, been given a $12M extension WILDLY out of line with the rest of the industry, or be extended again if he were to follow up 0-20 with a series of 7-13 BE seasons? And why the hell are you so resistant to these kinds of questions? Is Bill Howze linked to JT2? Why is he GU's DOBO?
Some say he's good at multi-tasking.
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Post by hsaxon on Mar 19, 2022 17:48:18 GMT -5
Is Bill Howze linked to JT2?
Why is he GU's DOBO?
Longtime friend of Ronny Thompson. His Georgetown bio conveniently omits his work under Ronny during his disastrous Ball State tenure. At every other program, it would be hard to distinguish the DOBO from the assistant coaches. If not for the team issued quarter zip, it would be hard to distinguish Howze from paying fans. Then there’s Irv Horne and Elijah Staley, who’s primary qualifications seem to be friend or relative of Ewing Jr. Thank you for the info.
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Post by wponds on Mar 19, 2022 18:35:03 GMT -5
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Mar 19, 2022 18:39:09 GMT -5
Of course: "Coach Horne has developed friendships that have supported his professional growth. His friendship with Patrick Ewing Jr. gave him the opportunity to work for Georgetown Basketball."
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 19, 2022 18:56:01 GMT -5
My son shared a bright idea with me...it's a reach, but what if Patrick could convince Steve Turner of Gonzaga Catholic High School to join the staff. That would be one helluva strategic move!!
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 19, 2022 19:03:42 GMT -5
My son shared a bright idea with me...it's a reach, but what if Patrick could convince Steve Turner of Gonzaga Catholic High School to join the staff. That would be one helluva strategic move!! There is a 100% chance he’s more qualified to be the head coach. Why would he want to work for a deleted who won’t listen to anything he has to say?
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