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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 6, 2022 19:27:45 GMT -5
Break out of the skid rut in Chicago with defense and rebounding.
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Post by iowa80 on Feb 6, 2022 19:51:33 GMT -5
Tyler Beard, a graduate of legendary Whitney Young H.S. in Chicago, needs to start. No shade on Dante. It's just the right thing to do.
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Post by hoyaroc on Feb 6, 2022 20:24:37 GMT -5
Chicago here we come. Beard family and friends will be there to support him. Coach Ewing start the kid if not play him significant minutes. Let’s go Hoyas!
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 7, 2022 11:00:45 GMT -5
Break the skid in Chicago with defense and rebounding. It's a rut now, not a skid.  Fully expecting JFL to become magically active, as we are now the "get right" game for everyone. Is this a winnable game? Yes. But it's going to require something closer to 30-35 minutes similar to the level of effort in the 1H vs. Providence. If conditioning is an issue, then we've got to be more strategic about giving guys a blow (i.e. subbing starters out before a TV timeout but NOT calling timeout to do it, saving timeouts to break opposing runs and give guys a breather down the stretch, etc.). 100% on the staff here to properly manage this. More Ryan, less Tim because Ryan's better by a lot. More Beard, less Dante because Dante can't give 35+ MPG of max effort. Press early and often. We may still lose, but need to start seeing some adjustments. At least try. |
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 7, 2022 12:27:37 GMT -5
Tyler Beard, a graduate of legendary Whitney Young H.S. in Chicago, needs to start. No shade on Dante. It's just the right thing to do. It’s come to that. |
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Post by bamahoya11 on Feb 7, 2022 21:09:32 GMT -5
Just a few years ago, DePaul was the cautionary tale folks always raised on this board. The view was always that if we made some decision, we might “end up like DePaul.” Well, DePaul enters this game at #103 on Ken Pom. We are at 208. Plus, it’s not like DePaul is having an incredible year. They enter the game just ahead of us in the Big East standings. This is just one more metric that shows we aren’t just bad, but historically bad. We are so far below DePaul that it would take an upset to beat them. It shows how far we have fallen.
This game will come down to DePaul’s offense. Just looking over their box scores, they have several games where they have scored some significant points, but they aren’t consistent. Much like the Providence game, the other team will need to play poorly for us to win. We will need DePaul to miss some open shots, and we will need to shoot well and avoid turnovers.
I hope this team can fight for a win Wednesday. It’s possible, but it’ll take a strong effort. They are better than we are.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 7, 2022 21:23:58 GMT -5
Just a few years ago, DePaul was the cautionary tale folks always raised on this board. The view was always that if we made some decision, we might “end up like DePaul.” Well, DePaul enters this game at #103 on Ken Pom. We are at 208. Plus, it’s not like DePaul is having an incredible year. They enter the game just ahead of us in the Big East standings. This is just one more metric that shows we aren’t just bad, but historically bad. We are so far below DePaul that it would take an upset to beat them. It shows how far we have fallen. This game will come down to DePaul’s offense. Just looking over their box scores, they have several games where they have scored some significant points, but they aren’t consistent. Much like the Providence game, the other team will need to play poorly for us to win. We will need DePaul to miss some open shots, and we will need to shoot well and avoid turnovers. I hope this team can fight for a win tomorrow. It’s possible, but it’ll take a strong effort. They are better than we are. Game is on Wednesday. |
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Post by bamahoya11 on Feb 7, 2022 21:32:57 GMT -5
Just a few years ago, DePaul was the cautionary tale folks always raised on this board. The view was always that if we made some decision, we might “end up like DePaul.” Well, DePaul enters this game at #103 on Ken Pom. We are at 208. Plus, it’s not like DePaul is having an incredible year. They enter the game just ahead of us in the Big East standings. This is just one more metric that shows we aren’t just bad, but historically bad. We are so far below DePaul that it would take an upset to beat them. It shows how far we have fallen. This game will come down to DePaul’s offense. Just looking over their box scores, they have several games where they have scored some significant points, but they aren’t consistent. Much like the Providence game, the other team will need to play poorly for us to win. We will need DePaul to miss some open shots, and we will need to shoot well and avoid turnovers. I hope this team can fight for a win tomorrow. It’s possible, but it’ll take a strong effort. They are better than we are. Game is on Wednesday. My error. Thanks! |
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 8, 2022 7:34:03 GMT -5
Will try and contribute to game thread where possible, agree apathy has set in on these threads as there's only so much to talk about, especially considering we're not really trying anything new on a game to game basis.
The reality is DePaul is much closer to Butler and St Johns than us this season. The only difference in the standings is the fact that they haven't played us yet. Butler has 2 non-Gtown wins, DePaul is at 2, St. John's is at 3. Now of course, DePaul has to still win the games against us but it's important to look at them through that lens.
I caught enough of the DePaul / UConn team to be worried about us on the glass. They were physical and hung tough with a UConn team that just physically overwhelmed us. And the stats confirm it, the best thing about their offense is their O-rebounding rate, 48th in the country. It almost scares me more to play a terrible 3 point shooting team. That means they generally get their offense in other ways, but will probably shoot better against us due to scheme that allows open 3 point looks.
Is Stubblefield actually a good coach? I don't know yet. I do feel like the board might be eager to celebrate DePaul for making a change and acknowledging their issues, which of course is step 1 that we haven't taken yet. And yes Stubblefield hit the portal to bolster today's team, and being able to add transfers from Kansas and Minnesota certainly says more than what we've done in portal. But we're still a long way from figuring out if he's actually a good hire. I dont see any top 150 kids signed for them this year per Rivals, and maybe that's fine and you live in the portal year to year. But interested to watch their schemes / adjustments in game up close to get a better sense of where they're headed.
Would expect DePaul to be favored by 6-7 points, which will certainly set off a fresh wave of angst tomorrow before the game even starts. Can't wait.
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Post by daveg023 on Feb 8, 2022 8:55:51 GMT -5
Will try and contribute to game thread where possible, agree apathy has set in on these threads as there's only so much to talk about, especially considering we're not really trying anything new on a game to game basis. The reality is DePaul is much closer to Butler and St Johns than us this season. The only difference in the standings is the fact that they haven't played us yet. Butler has 2 non-Gtown wins, DePaul is at 2, St. John's is at 3. Now of course, DePaul has to still win the games against us but it's important to look at them through that lens. I caught enough of the DePaul / UConn team to be worried about us on the glass. They were physical and hung tough with a UConn team that just physically overwhelmed us. And the stats confirm it, the best thing about their offense is their O-rebounding rate, 48th in the country. It almost scares me more to play a terrible 3 point shooting team. That means they generally get their offense in other ways, but will probably shoot better against us due to scheme that allows open 3 point looks. Is Stubblefield actually a good coach? I don't know yet. I do feel like the board might be eager to celebrate DePaul for making a change and acknowledging their issues, which of course is step 1 that we haven't taken yet. And yes Stubblefield hit the portal to bolster today's team, and being able to add transfers from Kansas and Minnesota certainly says more than what we've done in portal. But we're still a long way from figuring out if he's actually a good hire. I dont see any top 150 kids signed for them this year per Rivals, and maybe that's fine and you live in the portal year to year. But interested to watch their schemes / adjustments in game up close to get a better sense of where they're headed. Would expect DePaul to be favored by 6-7 points, which will certainly set off a fresh wave of angst tomorrow before the game even starts. Can't wait. The fact a 2 win DePaul team may be a 7 point favorite against us is a sobering fact. When is the last time (if ever) DePaul would have been this big a favorite against any BE foe? |
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Post by bluegray79 on Feb 8, 2022 9:42:05 GMT -5
Any word on Freeman Liberty? If he's still out or not a 100%, our chances improve. If he's at full strength and speed, we got to be on him.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 8, 2022 9:47:50 GMT -5
My rock solid prediction is this will not be a pretty game. There won't be flying lobs to the rack, their won't be a packed house, but there also may not be a 20 point run by our opponent in store. I also hope that Tyler gets some legit burn. The fact he isn't getting more minutes considering what Dante is putting out there night in and out is what makes it so confusing.
Against Providence Dante did something so dumb in the first two minutes I shook my head. If I'm Ewing, I pull Dante and give him a chance to slow down and think about what has been preached in the practices leading up to the game. If there are no consequences to awful play, then the awful play continues. What is the worst that could happen, we lose? Already doing that. Start Ryan and give him an extended shot. Give Malcolm some run also as Tim just hasn't been right this year and that broken wrist isn't helping his hands. Tough spot to be in for him.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Feb 8, 2022 12:28:31 GMT -5
I want to see a much deeper rotation and about 100 more subs in and out than we saw last game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 13:26:03 GMT -5
If we want to avoid our first solo last place finish in Big East history, two wins against these guys seem like a must.
Do it for Johnny, man.
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Post by thedragon on Feb 8, 2022 15:27:07 GMT -5
Will try and contribute to game thread where possible, agree apathy has set in on these threads as there's only so much to talk about, especially considering we're not really trying anything new on a game to game basis. The reality is DePaul is much closer to Butler and St Johns than us this season. The only difference in the standings is the fact that they haven't played us yet. Butler has 2 non-Gtown wins, DePaul is at 2, St. John's is at 3. Now of course, DePaul has to still win the games against us but it's important to look at them through that lens. I caught enough of the DePaul / UConn team to be worried about us on the glass. They were physical and hung tough with a UConn team that just physically overwhelmed us. And the stats confirm it, the best thing about their offense is their O-rebounding rate, 48th in the country. It almost scares me more to play a terrible 3 point shooting team. That means they generally get their offense in other ways, but will probably shoot better against us due to scheme that allows open 3 point looks. Is Stubblefield actually a good coach? I don't know yet. I do feel like the board might be eager to celebrate DePaul for making a change and acknowledging their issues, which of course is step 1 that we haven't taken yet. And yes Stubblefield hit the portal to bolster today's team, and being able to add transfers from Kansas and Minnesota certainly says more than what we've done in portal. But we're still a long way from figuring out if he's actually a good hire. I dont see any top 150 kids signed for them this year per Rivals, and maybe that's fine and you live in the portal year to year. But interested to watch their schemes / adjustments in game up close to get a better sense of where they're headed. Would expect DePaul to be favored by 6-7 points, which will certainly set off a fresh wave of angst tomorrow before the game even starts. Can't wait. The fact a 2 win DePaul team may be a 7 point favorite against us is a sobering fact. When is the last time (if ever) DePaul would have been this big a favorite against any BE foe? It will be closer to double digits. |
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 8, 2022 15:53:53 GMT -5
The fact a 2 win DePaul team may be a 7 point favorite against us is a sobering fact. When is the last time (if ever) DePaul would have been this big a favorite against any BE foe? It will be closer to double digits. I haircut the projected spread from kenpom / bart torvik but admittedly that might have been my own naivete. Still feel like that would be a lot to lay for DePaul wouldn't be surprised to see the books open a little lower. |
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 8, 2022 17:22:07 GMT -5
Words I never thought I’d type: Georgetown a 10 point dog to De Paul.
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 8, 2022 17:31:41 GMT -5
Words I never thought I’d type: Georgetown a 10 point dog to De Paul. Draftkings in NY is -8, closer to where I thought it would be. |
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Post by BSM on Feb 9, 2022 0:59:30 GMT -5
Will try and contribute to game thread where possible, agree apathy has set in on these threads as there's only so much to talk about, especially considering we're not really trying anything new on a game to game basis. The reality is DePaul is much closer to Butler and St Johns than us this season. The only difference in the standings is the fact that they haven't played us yet. Butler has 2 non-Gtown wins, DePaul is at 2, St. John's is at 3. Now of course, DePaul has to still win the games against us but it's important to look at them through that lens. I caught enough of the DePaul / UConn team to be worried about us on the glass. They were physical and hung tough with a UConn team that just physically overwhelmed us. And the stats confirm it, the best thing about their offense is their O-rebounding rate, 48th in the country. It almost scares me more to play a terrible 3 point shooting team. That means they generally get their offense in other ways, but will probably shoot better against us due to scheme that allows open 3 point looks. Is Stubblefield actually a good coach? I don't know yet. I do feel like the board might be eager to celebrate DePaul for making a change and acknowledging their issues, which of course is step 1 that we haven't taken yet. And yes Stubblefield hit the portal to bolster today's team, and being able to add transfers from Kansas and Minnesota certainly says more than what we've done in portal. But we're still a long way from figuring out if he's actually a good hire. I dont see any top 150 kids signed for them this year per Rivals, and maybe that's fine and you live in the portal year to year. But interested to watch their schemes / adjustments in game up close to get a better sense of where they're headed. Would expect DePaul to be favored by 6-7 points, which will certainly set off a fresh wave of angst tomorrow before the game even starts. Can't wait. The fact a 2 win DePaul team may be a 7 point favorite against us is a sobering fact. When is the last time (if ever) DePaul would have been this big a favorite against any BE foe? According to DFW on the front page, it's been 15 years. |
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Post by hoyaroc on Feb 9, 2022 5:15:26 GMT -5
Yes, we are 0-10 BE play maybe 0-11 by this evening. But all we can do is support the team and coaching staff. Stop with all the crying like spoiled kids. Life moves on some days your up and some your are down. Georgetown basketball is down right now. But we don’t give up. Let’s go Hoyas!!!!!
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