calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Nov 20, 2021 8:39:03 GMT -5
As one of possibly two SDSU alums on this Board this is the game I have been dreading for some time. Torn between hoping for a tie and trying to figure out which team needs it more. Think that the Hoyas probably need this win more than SDSU, which plays in a weaker conference and still has a good shot at the tournament. So far SDSU has been predictable (and somewhat disappointing) in that their defense is solid and the key to their success and their offense has been all inside the perimeter. SDSU could be the worst 3 pt shooting team the Hoyas have faced so far, though I did not really check the percentages of other schools. Aztecs are shooting below 30% and winning on the strength of some good inside play, rebounding and tough defense. SDSU is trying to mesh a bunch of new players like the Hoyas and their heralded transfer, Bradley, has been a bit too ball dominant and selfish in hunting shots. Don't see the Aztecs giving Carey or Rice open shots. Won't be going to the SDSU game with a very late start after a day of overeating. Hope that Ewing gets them some late night practice time. .
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Nov 20, 2021 9:01:54 GMT -5
As one of possibly two SDSU alums on this Board this is the game I have been dreading for some time. Torn between hoping for a tie and trying to figure out which team needs it more. Think that the Hoyas probably need this win more than SDSU, which plays in a weaker conference and still has a good shot at the tournament. So far SDSU has been predictable (and somewhat disappointing) in that their defense is solid and the key to their success and their offense has been all inside the perimeter. SDSU could be the worst 3 pt shooting team the Hoyas have faced so far, though I did not really check the percentages of other schools. Aztecs are shooting below 30% and winning on the strength of some good inside play, rebounding and tough defense. SDSU is trying to mesh a bunch of new players like the Hoyas and their heralded transfer, Bradley, has been a bit too ball dominant and selfish in hunting shots. Don't see the Aztecs giving Carey or Rice open shots. Won't be going to the SDSU game with a very late start after a day of overeating. Hope that Ewing gets them some late night practice time. . Dont fret too much. Hope you enjoy the game and Happy Thanksgiving.
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 20, 2021 11:32:48 GMT -5
Nice clip of their game against ASU...
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 20, 2021 12:14:28 GMT -5
I think we’re going to make a choice, starting next Thursday. Either we continue to play 10-11 guys and go full court (or at least 3/4 court) pressure on most makes and really try to speed things up, or we shorten the rotation and let the top 8 get more comfortable playing together. Against better teams I don’t think we can afford to keep experimenting with lineup combinations and playing “hot hands”. Defensively we need to really improve our communication and playing together as a unit.
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Post by OmaHoya on Nov 20, 2021 14:24:11 GMT -5
To the point made in the original post above, SDSU is shooting 20.4% from three so far this season which currently ranks 349th of 358 schools.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 20, 2021 16:44:32 GMT -5
As one of possibly two SDSU alums on this Board this is the game I have been dreading for some time. Torn between hoping for a tie and trying to figure out which team needs it more. Think that the Hoyas probably need this win more than SDSU, which plays in a weaker conference and still has a good shot at the tournament. So far SDSU has been predictable (and somewhat disappointing) in that their defense is solid and the key to their success and their offense has been all inside the perimeter. SDSU could be the worst 3 pt shooting team the Hoyas have faced so far, though I did not really check the percentages of other schools. Aztecs are shooting below 30% and winning on the strength of some good inside play, rebounding and tough defense. SDSU is trying to mesh a bunch of new players like the Hoyas and their heralded transfer, Bradley, has been a bit too ball dominant and selfish in hunting shots. Don't see the Aztecs giving Carey or Rice open shots. Won't be going to the SDSU game with a very late start after a day of overeating. Hope that Ewing gets them some late night practice time. . No matter what happens your team will be a winner Cal! Enjoy your holiday.
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Post by daveg023 on Nov 20, 2021 16:44:38 GMT -5
To the point made in the original post above, SDSU is shooting 20.4% from three so far this season which currently ranks 349th of 358 schools. We have been known to cure this ailment before
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Post by hoyazeke on Nov 20, 2021 18:38:14 GMT -5
To the point made in the original post above, SDSU is shooting 20.4% from three so far this season which currently ranks 349th of 358 schools. We have been known to cure this ailment before I know right. Hopefully we limit our TOs and make them hit contested shots. We won't out athlete SDSt.
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Post by SDHoya on Nov 20, 2021 19:49:25 GMT -5
As one of possibly two SDSU alums on this Board this is the game I have been dreading for some time. Torn between hoping for a tie and trying to figure out which team needs it more. Think that the Hoyas probably need this win more than SDSU, which plays in a weaker conference and still has a good shot at the tournament. So far SDSU has been predictable (and somewhat disappointing) in that their defense is solid and the key to their success and their offense has been all inside the perimeter. SDSU could be the worst 3 pt shooting team the Hoyas have faced so far, though I did not really check the percentages of other schools. Aztecs are shooting below 30% and winning on the strength of some good inside play, rebounding and tough defense. SDSU is trying to mesh a bunch of new players like the Hoyas and their heralded transfer, Bradley, has been a bit too ball dominant and selfish in hunting shots. Don't see the Aztecs giving Carey or Rice open shots. Won't be going to the SDSU game with a very late start after a day of overeating. Hope that Ewing gets them some late night practice time. . I assume you may be referring to me as the other SDSU alum--neither me nor any of my family are SDSU alums, we are just locals and support the local scene. I'm actually a GU alum--so while I root for SDSU over most other schools, in this one my undivided loyalty is with the Hoyas. So if you see guy in a Hoyas jersey surrounded by a family of SDSU shirts at the game, you may have found me. That being said, since moving back from DC to SD, I attend far more SDSU games than Hoyas', so here are my observations: SDSU lost a lot from last year, and like us, they are a team in transition. Covid shortened season denied the Aztecs of a legit chance to reach the Final 4. Last year, they weren't quite as good, but they were still solid and an excellent 3 point shooting team. But all the shooters graduated and are playing in various pro-leagues (one of them, Jordan Schakel, is actually with the Capital City GoGo). As others have pointed out, it does not look like they have replaced them. SDSU's production mainly is coming from two guys--a physical 6'4" guard Matt Bradley and 6'10" center Nathan Mensah. Bradley, who transferred out of the dumpster fire that is Cal, is a very skillful and strong offensive player, but against Arizona State tried to do too much and was largely neutralized. Aminu is of similar size and strength, and should be able to give Bradley a tough time. Mensah is not a great offensive talent, but finds his points opportunistically. He and the three headed Hoya center monster will be an interesting match-up to watch. Beyond Bradley and Mensah, its still unclear where the scoring will come from. PG Tre Pulliam can score a little but is a generally poor shooter and not as good a facilitator as he should be. Adam Seiko has the ability to hit from deep, but doesn't create his own shots. Then there is the rest--guys like Johnson, Butler, Dinwiddie and Baker-Mazara, for whom there are high hopes, but none has yet shown what they are capable of. It is certainly possible that the Aztecs could catch fire on Thursday night, but its seems unlikely from what I've seen thus far. However, while SDSU has not been adept on offense this year, they are excellent defensively. In some ways, SDSU's defense is what Ewing is trying to install on the Hilltop. Its almost exclusively man-to-man, with good communication, getting in passing lanes and challenging on every shot. They are not nearly as aggressive as the Hoyas try to be, and they don't look to get out an run all that much. But they make everything uncomfortable. Well drilled teams can occasionally break the Aztecs down, particularly if the deep ball is falling (see e.g., Cuse absolutely drilling the Aztecs in the last NCAA tournament--with mini-Boeheim scoring about 90). But its very unlikely this game is played above the 60s unless Rice, Carey et. al. are locked in like they were against Siena. If Dante, Aminu and others try to bully their way to the hole, its going to be a long night. If we are sloppy, it will be a long night. Aztecs are neither as athletic nor as skilled as the Hoyas, but they are well coached. Dutcher has done an impressive job taking over from Steve Fisher (of Fab 5 fame/infamy). But Dutch has his work cut out for him this year. Hoyas have a very good opportunity to win this one. If the game is in the 60s, we likely lose--if in the 70s we likely win. If Hoyas make it to the 80s, we likely win by double digits.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Nov 21, 2021 8:01:58 GMT -5
Agree with SDHoya assessment that this game is winnable for the Hoyas, particularly after another uninspired performance by the Aztecs last night against UT Arlington. Aztecs are Bradley, Mensah and a supporting cast. Bradley is by far the leader on offense though I still think he is too ball dominant. Mensah worries me more because of his size and my uncertainty as to who can guard him. Aztecs improved their 3 pt shooting last night but still not a perimeter oriented team. Their FT shooting was incredible but that has not been the case this year. As talented as our freshmen appear to be, I think this game comes down to Rice, Carey and Harris. If they can get their points against the Aztec defense the Hoyas have a good chance. Will have one fellow SDSU alum and a fellow Hoya alum with me for the game. My wife a New Mexico alum hates the Aztecs and so that should tip the balance in my house.
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 21, 2021 9:42:03 GMT -5
Agree with SDHoya assessment that this game is winnable for the Hoyas, particularly after another uninspired performance by the Aztecs last night against UT Arlington. Aztecs are Bradley, Mensah and a supporting cast. Bradley is by far the leader on offense though I still think he is too ball dominant. Mensah worries me more because of his size and my uncertainty as to who can guard him. Aztecs improved their 3 pt shooting last night but still not a perimeter oriented team. Their FT shooting was incredible but that has not been the case this year. As talented as our freshmen appear to be, I think this game comes down to Rice, Carey and Harris. If they can get their points against the Aztec defense the Hoyas have a good chance. Will have one fellow SDSU alum and a fellow Hoya alum with me for the game. My wife a New Mexico alum hates the Aztecs and so that should tip the balance in my house. Mensah is Ghanaian. Best football (soccer) players in the world but no where near as good in basketball compared to Nigeria. So edge Georgetown
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Post by bigelephant on Nov 21, 2021 11:06:20 GMT -5
I hope so.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 21, 2021 11:09:31 GMT -5
Mensah is Ghanaian. Best football (soccer) players in the world but no where near as good in basketball compared to Nigeria. So edge Georgetown Disagree. Not even close re: Ghana’s soccer players
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Post by cas92 on Nov 21, 2021 12:28:52 GMT -5
Agree with SDHoya assessment that this game is winnable for the Hoyas, particularly after another uninspired performance by the Aztecs last night against UT Arlington. Aztecs are Bradley, Mensah and a supporting cast. Bradley is by far the leader on offense though I still think he is too ball dominant. Mensah worries me more because of his size and my uncertainty as to who can guard him. Aztecs improved their 3 pt shooting last night but still not a perimeter oriented team. Their FT shooting was incredible but that has not been the case this year. As talented as our freshmen appear to be, I think this game comes down to Rice, Carey and Harris. If they can get their points against the Aztec defense the Hoyas have a good chance. Will have one fellow SDSU alum and a fellow Hoya alum with me for the game. My wife a New Mexico alum hates the Aztecs and so that should tip the balance in my house. Mensah is Ghanaian. Best football (soccer) players in the world but no where near as good in basketball compared to Nigeria. So edge Georgetown This may prove to be as futile (a claim) as championing for which regional iteration of Jollof Rice is superior.
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Post by dchoya72 on Nov 21, 2021 13:41:52 GMT -5
Mensah is Ghanaian. Best football (soccer) players in the world but no where near as good in basketball compared to Nigeria. So edge Georgetown This may prove to be as futile (a claim) as championing for which regional iteration of Jollof Rice is superior. Jollof rice? Smiling!
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Post by justsaying on Nov 21, 2021 14:06:38 GMT -5
As a young group, a big part will be when attacking their defensive gaps not turning the ball over
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 21, 2021 16:04:13 GMT -5
Dante is going to have to have a very solid game for us to have a chance.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 22, 2021 5:42:52 GMT -5
I think we’re going to make a choice, starting next Thursday. Either we continue to play 10-11 guys and go full court (or at least 3/4 court) pressure on most makes and really try to speed things up, or we shorten the rotation and let the top 8 get more comfortable playing together. Against better teams I don’t think we can afford to keep experimenting with lineup combinations and playing “hot hands”. Defensively we need to really improve our communication and playing together as a unit. I think we can continue to play the current rotation plus incorporate Holloway and Clark when they return.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Nov 22, 2021 6:31:20 GMT -5
our bigs have to be better defensively. they were horrendous vs siena
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Post by bigelephant on Nov 22, 2021 7:28:02 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I agree
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