LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 27, 2021 15:53:12 GMT -5
From Kobe Clark’s Instagram.
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Post by bigelephant on Mar 27, 2021 16:25:37 GMT -5
Maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 16:56:28 GMT -5
Could be.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Mar 27, 2021 17:34:36 GMT -5
My son said Blair was on his Instagram trumpeting the team’s new shoes with some comment like, “Let’s get it!” Doesn’t necessarily mean anything, but would love to have Bile, Blair and Carey back. Pickett is going to get paid somewhere. Pickett certainly should go get paid. Carey sounds like he is definitely coming back. Bile and Blair are interesting because they could probably go get paid somewhere, but one more year could be huge for them both. Blair - Harris - Carey - Aminu - Riley - Beard is a crazy good backcourt.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Mar 28, 2021 14:42:27 GMT -5
Given the fact that they are all allowed to come back, they should all do so and really try to develop themselves and prepare for the next level.
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Post by saxagael on Mar 29, 2021 8:15:59 GMT -5
You were mentioned in a Casual Hoya article titled: RUMOR TRACKER: Which Hoyas Might Run It Back Next Season? Thanks for the heads up on the mention. I had mentioned to whipple last summer that Trey Mourning had likely given up his scholarship for Bradley Hayes based on the work RockawayHoya and I did to reverse engineer Georgetown's APR scores to see how close Georgetown was to being penalized. (short answer, Georgetown's APR was really bad going into this past season, and the Hoyas are probably lucky that the NCAA suspended APR penalties because of COVID) So to add more confusion to the mix. Reading the Casual Hoya article titled: RUMOR TRACKER: "Which Hoyas Might Run It Back Next Season?", it seems we may have a way out where we don't lose a player next year and we can still have all the seniors return as well and still be at the 13 scholarship limit. None of us thought about this but what if DC, who wants to come back next year, uses this year as the Covid bonus? The Covid bonus doesn't count against the scholarships and after next year he could depart. What do you guys think of that scenario? Is it feasible? Or am I just wishing and grasping at straws to make this thing work? The only way this theory could work is if Don Carey claimed that he used up a year of eligibility during his year in residence after transferring from Mount St Mary's to Siena. I don't believe he could actually make that claim based on NCAA transfer rules. There is no such thing as a COVID bonus. Every current player gets 5 playing years. If next year is the player's 5th and the player stays on their current team, the player won't count against the scholarship limit. Carey came to Georgetown with 2 years of eligibility left as a grad transfer.
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Post by saxagael on Mar 29, 2021 8:19:17 GMT -5
My son said Blair was on his Instagram trumpeting the team’s new shoes with some comment like, “Let’s get it!” Doesn’t necessarily mean anything, but would love to have Bile, Blair and Carey back. Pickett is going to get paid somewhere. Pickett certainly should go get paid. Carey sounds like he is definitely coming back. Bile and Blair are interesting because they could probably go get paid somewhere, but one more year could be huge for them both. Blair - Harris - Carey - Aminu - Riley - Beard is a crazy good backcourt. With all the openly stated frustration Ewing has with Blair, I'm not sure he'll be back. Jeff Green was getting his Hoya Jordans a year or two after he left and was in on some distributions far beyond that, so getting shoes doesn't mean all that much.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 8:28:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up on the mention. I had mentioned to whipple last summer that Trey Mourning had likely given up his scholarship for Bradley Hayes based on the work RockawayHoya and I did to reverse engineer Georgetown's APR scores to see how close Georgetown was to being penalized. (short answer, Georgetown's APR was really bad going into this past season, and the Hoyas are probably lucky that the NCAA suspended APR penalties because of COVID) The only way this theory could work is if Don Carey claimed that he used up a year of eligibility during his year in residence after transferring from Mount St Mary's to Siena. I don't believe he could actually make that claim based on NCAA transfer rules. There is no such thing as a COVID bonus. Every current player gets 5 playing years. If next year is the player's 5th and the player stays on their current team, the player won't count against the scholarship limit. Carey came to Georgetown with 2 years of eligibility left as a grad transfer. Correct, that's why I was trying to debunk the theory that Carey could claim he's using his 5th year next year.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 29, 2021 11:28:37 GMT -5
This doesn't apply to Carey since he did not have a medical redshirt, but a theoretical question - a school has to apply for a medical redshirt to get a player an extra year of eligibility. So if a senior or grad senior was injured this year and would otherwise qualify for a medical, but the school did not apply, that player could instead just use the COVID waiver and not count against the scholarship limit, right? In fact there would be no reason to apply for the medical waiver.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 12:14:04 GMT -5
This doesn't apply to Carey since he did not have a medical redshirt, but a theoretical question - a school has to apply for a medical redshirt to get a player an extra year of eligibility. So if a senior or grad senior was injured this year and would otherwise qualify for a medical, but the school did not apply, that player could instead just use the COVID waiver and not count against the scholarship limit, right? In fact there would be no reason to apply for the medical waiver. The reason to apply for a medical waiver in that theoretical situation would be to preserve an extra year of eligibility for the student athlete if they wanted it.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 29, 2021 12:49:26 GMT -5
However it would save the team a scholarship for next year if you use skip the medical redshirt and use the COVID exemption instead. I guess unless you know the player wants to hang around for a sixth year after next season.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 13:11:03 GMT -5
However it would save the team a scholarship for next year if you use skip the medical redshirt and use the COVID exemption instead. I guess unless you know the player wants to hang around for a sixth year after next season. Yeah I agree it helps the school if the hypothetical player gives up a year of eligibility to be considered a 5th year player next year. Your previous post said there would be no reason to apply for the medical waiver. I was showing that there is a reason that benefits the student athlete to apply for the medical waiver.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 29, 2021 13:23:13 GMT -5
True I had not considered using the medical year and then the COVID year that everybody can have.
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 20, 2021 9:02:45 GMT -5
Not sure if this is the thread for it, but Hilltop Hoops today reports that there is still some possibility of Pickett returning for a 5th year: hilltophoops.substack.com/p/patrick-baldwin-georgetown-hoyas-recruitingI think another interesting ripple effect of the bonus year is that some seniors are going to see if they have any shot of getting drafted, and if it doesn't seem promising, they have to weigh out a 5th year of college vs. going to play internationally. On the one hand there's a case to be made that if your career is going to be playing ball overseas, may as well start making that money now. On the other hand, we're still dealing with a pandemic and who knows exactly what you might find playing in Europe or Asia. Depending on what your long-term goals are, it might be worth considering getting a masters degree and trying to take one more crack at success in college before jumping into playing overseas a year from now, when the world is opened back up again and stadiums are full of people etc. While some seniors have proactively announced that they're going to come back (eg. Butler, Villanova) and others have formally announced that they don't intend to, I can imagine that there are a lot of players across the country who are going to assess their options further before making an official decision. If they get serious NBA interest, great, but if not and they don't hire an agent, going back to school vs. going abroad may make sense for some. Especially considering that they can transfer to another school and maybe a better situation, I can see some pretty good players deciding to put off going abroad for one more year and either returning to the school they've been at (and not counting against the scholarship total) or going into the portal and looking for a new place to be featured. And some of that stuff won't be figured out until late May or June, so the hot stove may continue on a while.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 20, 2021 10:09:13 GMT -5
Not sure if this is the thread for it, but Hilltop Hoops today reports that there is still some possibility of Pickett returning for a 5th year: hilltophoops.substack.com/p/patrick-baldwin-georgetown-hoyas-recruitingI think another interesting ripple effect of the bonus year is that some seniors are going to see if they have any shot of getting drafted, and if it doesn't seem promising, they have to weigh out a 5th year of college vs. going to play internationally. On the one hand there's a case to be made that if your career is going to be playing ball overseas, may as well start making that money now. On the other hand, we're still dealing with a pandemic and who knows exactly what you might find playing in Europe or Asia. Depending on what your long-term goals are, it might be worth considering getting a masters degree and trying to take one more crack at success in college before jumping into playing overseas a year from now, when the world is opened back up again and stadiums are full of people etc. While some seniors have proactively announced that they're going to come back (eg. Butler, Villanova) and others have formally announced that they don't intend to, I can imagine that there are a lot of players across the country who are going to assess their options further before making an official decision. If they get serious NBA interest, great, but if not and they don't hire an agent, going back to school vs. going abroad may make sense for some. Especially considering that they can transfer to another school and maybe a better situation, I can see some pretty good players deciding to put off going abroad for one more year and either returning to the school they've been at (and not counting against the scholarship total) or going into the portal and looking for a new place to be featured. And some of that stuff won't be figured out until late May or June, so the hot stove may continue on a while. I think that there's also the factor that if there is no NBA combine/draft league and no summer league then a borderline player won't get a good look or opportunity to make a team and would be automatically relegated to trying to fight your way through the G-league as a normal G-league player as opposed to making an NBA roster or getting a 2 way G league/NBA contract.
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Post by smokeyjack on Apr 20, 2021 11:01:14 GMT -5
Pickett is a very interesting case in that he is the only guy on the roster who actually had NBA measurables and athleticism. Now, for his entire career, many of us lamented about his consistency, shot, handles and hoops IQ, but he was always the guy whom you watched and said, 'Now if that guy would just get a little better_____, he's an NBA talent." Can you make that jump in skills and consistency after four years of incremental improvement? Probably not. But I'd love to have him back. Grad year Pickett is likely better than frosh Baldwin (whose likely a 1-and-done anyway), so I'd gladly take another year of Morko paired with what we have coming in. Can't believe I'm saying that, but it's been a month since we've seen a backboard-only uncontested 3 or one of his tragi-comic iso dribbling TOs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 11:14:20 GMT -5
Pickett is a very interesting case in that he is the only guy on the roster who actually had NBA measurables and athleticism. Now, for his entire career, many of us lamented about his consistency, shot, handles and hoops IQ, but he was always the guy whom you watched and said, 'Now if that guy would just get a little better_____, he's an NBA talent." Can you make that jump in skills and consistency after four years of incremental improvement? Probably not. But I'd love to have him back. Grad year Pickett is likely better than frosh Baldwin (whose likely a 1-and-done anyway), so I'd gladly take another year of Morko paired with what we have coming in. Can't believe I'm saying that, but it's been a month since we've seen a backboard-only uncontested 3 or one of his tragi-comic iso dribbling TOs. It seems to me he'd make our lineup stronger than w/o him, so I'm all for it. I'd hoped last year would be a bridge year for Sibley to be ready to take over the 4 spot, but seemingly not. If Pat's moving that Sibley timeline back - or looking at JBill to take a shot at it - then another year w/ Pickett (if PBJr doesn't come) will hopefully serve as that bridge. One or two of our frontcourt kids are gonna have to move on to find some playing time, since we're obviously interested in adding another 4/5 one way or another. Sibley/Billingsley/King/Igohoefe/Mutombo/Wilson/(Pickett or PBJr) at the 4/5. And that doesn't include Clark & Holloway - who otherwise might get a few minutes there in smaller lineups.
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Post by dchoya72 on Apr 20, 2021 11:35:28 GMT -5
If Pickett chose to come back, I would welcome him with open arms. He would need to understand that it will be a very competitive situation and he would need to step up. I don't think his 4-year stint ended the way he wanted. He kept progressing each year, slowly but steadily. If he doesn't have a pressing economic need to move on and has non- basketball goals, it will help him to come back ultimately. Basketball-wise, I would like to see him work on his handle and getting to the basket, learning and know the angles of the glass so that his scoop shots, finger-rolls and bank shots find the bottom of the hoop. Whatever he decides, I wish him the best. He's got skills the team could use. Of course there is a bunch of talent coming. This could be interesting. Everyone who wants PT will have to step up big time!
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Post by hoyaguy on Apr 20, 2021 13:12:46 GMT -5
I definitely want Pickett back if we do not get Baldwin. He can still improve (maybe not get drafted since his age) and become a very solid professional player and if he gets better and more confident dribbling he could be so good. I loved the plays when he would drive in and score making it look easy as anything because he can be that good, and players either need to concede to his height to keep up with him or try to play a similar size match up that he can out pace on the floor. I might just go find those plays for fun
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Post by smokeyjack on Apr 20, 2021 14:42:27 GMT -5
Small lineup is Harris-Rice-Aminu-Pickett-King Large subs in Ig for Rice Bring Carey, Riley, Beard, Sibs and RyanMu off bench That’s a legit 10/11 deep
Several of last season's bench guys would likely bolt - Wilson, Berger, Holloway, Clark. Basically all would have been recruited over. As many have said, if you didn’t see floor last year when we were absolutely desperate for buckets for half the season, you shouldn’t have the warm and fuzzies headed into this season with lots more talent coming to town.
In Out Aminu Wahab King Blair Rice Bile Riley Beard Mutombo Billingsley
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