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Post by bostonfan on Mar 3, 2021 17:10:37 GMT -5
I can't imagine Pickett returning. I'd like him to, but he's going to make money somewhere and I assume he has his degree. I am worried about Blair if he returns. He's the type of guy who would have been a great sixth man scorer for a good team. But will he take that role if he's beaten out by others? I am a bit gunshy on team chemistry issues for obvious reasons. I've stated my concern before about Bile being able to reign himself in a bit, but I'm far less worried about that. Agreed with Pickett likely leaving. The DNP-CD and coming off the bench on senior night indicate pretty clearly there’s something amiss between Blair and Ewing - so I don’t think he’ll be back. I do think Bile and Carey would be welcomed back and useful to next year’s team, Bile especially. I agree. I think Pickett will move on and start making money to play basketball next year. He has had a good year and staying one more year is unlikely to improve his value as a professional player. It does seem like Blair's time at Georgetown has run it's course and that he and the head coach are not seeing eye to eye, so I expect him to move on. If Carey had already decided to leave after this year he probably could have been part of the senior night celebration last night, and he was not. That doesn't mean he is coming back, but I would think he is at least still thinking about returning for another year. On the other hand Bile did take part in senior night, so maybe he has already decided that he is ready to move on after this year. I think he can also start making money somewhere next year. I have no inside information on anything so I could be wrong about all of these guys. I guess we will probably find out in the next few months.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Mar 3, 2021 17:28:28 GMT -5
Carey could definitely benefit from next year’s roster changes, with the driving ability being a strength of all the guards/wings next year, a sophomore Dante, and an improved post presence, the offense should generate more open 3-point opportunities. It does seem like the mask has impacted his shot, so hopefully he’ll be healed enough to take that off (or will be better acclimated to shooting with it) soon.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 3, 2021 18:20:50 GMT -5
While the ending of this game had me nervous, it was nice to hold on and win it. I am not going to elaborate much further since others have touched on most of the key points. But, a few things:
- Ewing continues to use a fairly tight rotation, and I think that is the smart move against both Connecticut and in the BET. It's worked fairly well, and I think it gives us the best odds of winning and/or making a BET run. We are well beyond the point where playing freshman more will make any colorable difference for next year.
- Bile has really turned things around. While he still occasionally reverts, he has become a better and more in-control player. Obviously, his four 3 point shots were key in winning this game. He probably still uses too many possessions, but at least he's more efficient than he was. I think his shooting combined with rebounding has helped us a lot.
- Speaking of shooting, in Big East play, Bile is 22-55 (40%), and Carey is 24-51 (47.1%). Blair, by contrast, is 33-105 (31.5%). While I like Blair, it's probably better for the team if the DNP/non-starting leads to more shots for Bile and Carey, and less for Blair. I realize Blair has been put in a facilitator-type role, but he is pretty inefficient from three, and I think the more three point shots Carey and Bile can get, the better. Pickett is shooting 39.1% (25-64) in Big East games, so if he can get more shots, all the better, too.
- Taking out Sibley (who only has 13 shots), Wahab is basically the only efficient guy at shooting twos. This is why we largely live and die by the three. We are shooting 46.2% on twos (equal to 0.92 points per shot) versus 36.3% from three (equal to 1.09 points per shot). That is actually pretty stark. We are far more efficient shooting threes than twos.
- On defense, we are playing better. I think that's in part because Harris is a good on-ball defender, and probably improved over the course of the season. I think Bile playing more probably helps on the defensive end too. That said, we still have a TON of lapses, and Xavier missed a bunch of open shots last night (granted, we did too) that a hotter shooting team is going to make. I am happy to see the team defending better, I am just not convinced it's because of a schematic change at this point, given how often we are out of place or our rotations are bad. It'll be interesting to see what happens next year, as better defense is absolutely crucial if we are going to make it back to the tournament.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 18:42:07 GMT -5
While the ending of this game had me nervous, it was nice to hold on and win it. I am not going to elaborate much further since others have touched on most of the key points. But, a few things: - Ewing continues to use a fairly tight rotation, and I think that is the smart move against both Connecticut and in the BET. It's worked fairly well, and I think it gives us the best odds of winning and/or making a BET run. We are well beyond the point where playing freshman more will make any colorable difference for next year. - Bile has really turned things around. While he still occasionally reverts, he has become a better and more in-control player. Obviously, his four 3 point shots were key in winning this game. He probably still uses too many possessions, but at least he's more efficient than he was. I think his shooting combined with rebounding has helped us a lot. - Speaking of shooting, in Big East play, Bile is 22-55 (40%), and Carey is 24-51 (47.1%). Blair, by contrast, is 33-105 (31.5%). While I like Blair, it's probably better for the team if the DNP/non-starting leads to more shots for Bile and Carey, and less for Blair. I realize Blair has been put in a facilitator-type role, but he is pretty inefficient from three, and I think the more three point shots Carey and Bile can get, the better. Pickett is shooting 39.1% (25-64) in Big East games, so if he can get more shots, all the better, too. - Taking out Sibley (who only has 13 shots), Wahab is basically the only efficient guy at shooting twos. This is why we largely live and die by the three. We are shooting 46.2% on twos (equal to 0.92 points per shot) versus 36.3% from three (equal to 1.09 points per shot). That is actually pretty stark. We are far more efficient shooting threes than twos. - On defense, we are playing better. I think that's in part because Harris is a good on-ball defender, and probably improved over the course of the season. I think Bile playing more probably helps on the defensive end too. That said, we still have a TON of lapses, and Xavier missed a bunch of open shots last night (granted, we did too) that a hotter shooting team is going to make. I am happy to see the team defending better, I am just not convinced it's because of a schematic change at this point, given how often we are out of place or our rotations are bad. It'll be interesting to see what happens next year, as better defense is absolutely crucial if we are going to make it back to the tournament. You can't take Blair out man...Blair is our engine. I know y'all like to quote statistics and think that that translate to what coaches should do with players but you will be making a big mistake by not playing Blair and by not starting Blair. Blair, with all of his faults and mistakes is our best player. He scores and he dishes. Don't get caught up in these statistics or the fact that Blair has had a few subpar games because that stuff don't mean anything. The fact of the matter is when Blair is attacking, even when he's missing, he is effective. I say that he is effective because, Bile and Pickett can clean up his stuff on the boards because Blair breaks down the defense and leave rebounding opportunities when he drives to the basket. Carey's game is not like Blair's game and that's okay because what Carey's does for us (primarily shoots from deep) we need. Blair can shoot from deep and attack! You don't want to take those dimension from the team's game. Plus when Blair gets going and he gets hot, we are hard to beat even if he is the only one that his hot for our team. Don't be foolish and throw the baby out with the bath water! Blair needs to start from this point forward and he needs to continue doing what he is doing. You guys have a short memory when guys have a few subpar games. Coach, please start Blair the next game and go to him early and often. We need his cooking!
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 3, 2021 19:16:43 GMT -5
You can't take Blair out man...Blair is our engine. I know y'all like to quote statistics and think that that translate to what coaches should do with players but you will be making a big mistake by not playing Blair and by not starting Blair. Blair, with all of his faults and mistakes is our best player. He scores and he dishes. Don't get caught up in these statistics or the fact that Blair has had a few subpar games because that stuff don't mean anything. The fact of the matter is when Blair is attacking, even when he's missing, he is effective. I say that he is effective because, Bile and Pickett can clean up his stuff on the boards because Blair breaks down the defense and leave rebounding opportunities when he drives to the basket. Carey's game is not like Blair's game and that's okay because what Carey's does for us (primarily shoots from deep) we need. Blair can shoot from deep and attack! You don't want to take those dimension from the team's game. Plus when Blair gets going and he gets hot, we are hard to beat even if he is the only one that his hot for our team. Don't be foolish and throw the baby out with the bath water! Blair needs to start from this point forward and he needs to continue doing what he is doing. You guys have a short memory when guys have a few subpar games. Coach, please start Blair the next game and go to him early and often. We need his cooking! You are leaping to conclusions. I never said to take Blair out. I never said to not start Blair. All I said was that Blair has not been a very good three point shooter this season, whereas Bile, Carey, and Pickett have posted better numbers. So, to the degree that those three can be taking threes over Blair, it would help the team. If that means Blair plays 28 minutes (as he did last night) versus 35+, so be it. Clearly, as one of the major offensive options, Blair will probably continue to play a lot nonetheless, as he did last night. This is less about playing time, and more about shot allocation. Put another way, if I needed a three to win a game, I'd much rather have Carey, Bile, or Pickett taking it than Blair.
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Post by mdtd on Mar 3, 2021 19:30:52 GMT -5
This was a very fun game that was so close to being a blown lead. Alas though, winning is fun, and the fact that I can be angry after winning is exactly how I want to feel.
The main thing imo on how we got the lead was TO's. Our defense forcing more TO's recently and us turning it over less has been a huge development. After turning it over approximately 75 times in the first seven minutes, we limited our TO's and took advantage of where we had advantages.
I said before the game our defense on Scruggs was going to be crucial and it absolutely was. Dante guarded him a ton from what I saw, but I'm pretty sure he saw Bile some too. Love it. Our defense was very very good for the first 35 minutes. The improvement of our defense gives us so much more hope for next year. It's not just shooting. It's awesome to see our defense improve. Keep it up. This is the key to sustained success imo.
Player wise, I thought Pickett and Bile were our best players again. Bile seems to start every game poorly, then hit a shot or two and step up. I'm pretty sure to start the game he missed his first 5 shots, but he turned it on. He hit some crucial catch and shoot three balls and he took exactly what the defense gave him. Also, early on I think someone beat him off the dribble and he missed a screen, but later in the game, his defense was very good. It's like he has to hit a shot to wake up. But, when he plays like this, I'll take that all day. Very happy for him. And Jamorko's consistency late in the season has been huge. I think his defense has been overstated by this board, but he did very well on Freemantle. We used this and used him to attack Carter and essentially play him off the floor, which I think completely changed this game. Carter was timid and he could've had any look he wanted. But, Pickett's defense on Freemantle allowed Q to roam the paint and his offense destroyed Carter. That was huge.
Blair was just bad again. Plain bad. His defense is just bad and offensively the ball is stopping with him again. If they run you off the line, facilitate. I understand he's not going to be our most efficient scorer since he is asked to create and shoot so many times, but he has to be alive on both ends. His defense has just been bad. Really bad. And the ball is stopping with him a ton and it's killing our offense. This team wins with team ball and not individual play.
Q and Dante were both pretty solid I thought. Q was better than Dante today for sure, but a lot of Q's work came on the glass. He was able to roam defensively (because of Pickett) and he was very effective on the glass. He ate them up on the glass. And his passing out of doubles was much better today. Not great early on, but it was much better after that. He had a couple of hockey assists and that's when our offense is at its best. Dante was very good defensively, but he did force it offensively. I'll take these mistakes from a freshman PG though. The injury probably doesn't help, but he can learn from these things. Not worried at all here. But, not his best night for sure.
Lastly, our late-game offense was awful. The 1-5 ball screen was just bad. I like the small ball unit, but the benefit is a continuing free-flowing offense. Running the clock to 10 then getting a ball screen is not effective in the last five minutes, especially since we don't have an elite shot creator. This team will win by team basketball. Going individual late game was a bad call. Other than this though, I thought Ewing coached an excellent game. We just have to be so much smarter late in these games. This is something that needs to improve. We could've won this game by 20 points. We have to take advantage of these spots. Just keep running our offense. That would've been much more effective. Other than this though, it was a very well-played game. Good win for sure. Onto those Huskies.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 19:52:49 GMT -5
You can't take Blair out man...Blair is our engine. I know y'all like to quote statistics and think that that translate to what coaches should do with players but you will be making a big mistake by not playing Blair and by not starting Blair. Blair, with all of his faults and mistakes is our best player. He scores and he dishes. Don't get caught up in these statistics or the fact that Blair has had a few subpar games because that stuff don't mean anything. The fact of the matter is when Blair is attacking, even when he's missing, he is effective. I say that he is effective because, Bile and Pickett can clean up his stuff on the boards because Blair breaks down the defense and leave rebounding opportunities when he drives to the basket. Carey's game is not like Blair's game and that's okay because what Carey's does for us (primarily shoots from deep) we need. Blair can shoot from deep and attack! You don't want to take those dimension from the team's game. Plus when Blair gets going and he gets hot, we are hard to beat even if he is the only one that his hot for our team. Don't be foolish and throw the baby out with the bath water! Blair needs to start from this point forward and he needs to continue doing what he is doing. You guys have a short memory when guys have a few subpar games. Coach, please start Blair the next game and go to him early and often. We need his cooking! You are leaping to conclusions. I never said to take Blair out. I never said to not start Blair. All I said was that Blair has not been a very good three point shooter this season, whereas Bile, Carey, and Pickett have posted better numbers. So, to the degree that those three can be taking threes over Blair, it would help the team. If that means Blair plays 28 minutes (as he did last night) versus 35+, so be it. Clearly, as one of the major offensive options, Blair will probably continue to play a lot nonetheless, as he did last night. This is less about playing time, and more about shot allocation. Put another way, if I needed a three to win a game, I'd much rather have Carey, Bile, or Pickett taking it than Blair. Okay, you made yourself clear and for the most part I agree with you except that if you want the other guys hitting that winning three, make sure you have Blair penetrating the key to collapse the defense for a kick out to those guys!!!
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 3, 2021 21:06:11 GMT -5
Carey could definitely benefit from next year’s roster changes, with the driving ability being a strength of all the guards/wings next year, a sophomore Dante, and an improved post presence, the offense should generate more open 3-point opportunities. It does seem like the mask has impacted his shot, so hopefully he’ll be healed enough to take that off (or will be better acclimated to shooting with it) soon. There's going to be a lot of guards suddenly on the roster, though.
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Post by hsaxon on Mar 3, 2021 21:45:03 GMT -5
This was basically the first Nova game, with the only difference that Xavier started their run and adjustments with 10 min left in the game as opposed to right out of the gate to start the 2nd half. Are we really surprised that they eventually made a run? The expectation now is we blow out legitimately decent teams? Sure there's some things to work on down the stretch, but Pickett and Bile made winning plays I'm not sure they make early in the season. Great progress My frustration is not that they made a run, it's how the Hoyas facilitated it. They caught up on rebounding and general opportunities because we got lackadaisical -- you could see the team let off focus. Then down the stretch, running pick and rolls with Blair is a terrible idea. We had one of the better free flowing offenses all game, and we killed it so we could run pick and roll with a player who doesn't run it well, and with a dude who doesn't set good picks or roll all that well. It's just a terrible idea and made little sense when we were getting good shots running the offense. From just watching, I feel like we are generally doing better not leaving three point shooters, but we still close out poorly at times and leave the corners open. I will be interested to see over time just how much of our defensive improvement is opponent misses -- in the second half, Xavier missed a LOT of open threes. A LOT. But overall, we've been better recently. It worked fine, and was necessary because Freemantle was heating up. The mistake was that in the previous 10+ possessions, we never went down low. Qudus was 7-8 from the field, we were struggled and we never went to him. If you aren't going to use Qudus offensively, you have to take him off the floor there ... but I don't know why we stopped giving him ANY looks. Guard size is vitally important for the NBA, where players are much bigger, stronger, and are used to making shots with someone right on them. They also have time to develop a post game. Is there a guard in college basketball who has a post game? Every once in a while you get someone who played center on their high school team or something, but CENTERS in college don't have post games; people always ask why don't they post him up? They don't have the game. I will take a guard taking 40% post twos all day. He may struggle to get into some of the taller shooters' eyes, but a) there's no guarantee a taller guy sticks with them and b) I'll take what he brings on the other end as compensation. Guard size is the most overrated thing in college ball. Agreed. Big development. Massive. Is it Steal% or non-Steal turnovers? I feel like Dante and Bile have both made a big difference, but I'm curious if it is showing up in Steal % splits. Who's coming back is the big question? It's possible we are watching a team with Dante, Qudus, Tim and a bunch of freshmen we have not seen. Talented freshmen, but freshmen who may take time to click. If we get a substantial contingent coming back, or if multiple freshmen are ready to play, I'm there with you. I also hope we get a full season so the team can mesh without going practically straight into conference play. It seems Carey will be back. Berger and sibley may be contributors.
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Post by hsaxon on Mar 3, 2021 21:46:14 GMT -5
A very intelligent Hoya fan pointed out to me that Q Wahab seems to be dealing with some form of injury. Watching the game closely Q appears to be dragging his right leg at times & he lacks lateral movement & explosion in certain plays. Fatigue could def be an issue but holding on tonite & the recent team success will help the team’s collective mental ability to close a game too. Success breeds more success. Patrick deserves a ton of credit. Looking forward to next game and the BE Tournament. If Q was hurt, we should have seen much more from Tim.
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 3, 2021 22:05:45 GMT -5
Really need Bile to come back...simply because I think he and Dante push the dog quotient SO much higher. Like Q a lot, but he is a little soft. We need to be the old, feared GU - mean as hell, extremely athletic and feared. That wins you 1/3 of your games before the tip. We need to get back to that, and Bile helps Dante tip the scales of returning players in that direction. Carey’s fine - decent set shooter with very marginal athleticism and comparably bad defender to Blair.
Bile brings you something you don’t have, particularly with Pickett leaving, and that’s a solid rebounding 3/4 who has a BE body, is a capable shooter and is fearless.
I have come around on being over Blair - the play last night @8-10 left in game where he didn’t give the ball to wide open Q in paint to jack a contested three and then followed with a stupid foul going for rebound totally lost me. His defense as always been lousy. But his shot is now very off, and yet he’s clearly out there hunting his game. Not a good look. I agree that his days as a Hoya are numbered. Looks like that’s reality at this point - I mean things have to be REALLY bad between him and Pat for him not to start on his Sr night. That’s an awful look for all involved.
But whatever, with Pickett and Bile potentially leaving we have a gaping hole at 4 that none of incoming or existing guys can fill. Maybe Pat has a another grad transfer on hook, but getting Bile back would be huge.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 3, 2021 22:11:26 GMT -5
Really need Bile to come back...simply because I think he and Dante push the dog quotient SO much higher. Like Q a lot, but he is a little soft. We need to be the old, feared GU - mean as hell, extremely athletic and feared. That wins you 1/3 of your games before the tip. We need to get back to that, and Bile helps Dante tip the scales of returning players in that direction. Carey’s fine - decent set shooter with very marginal athleticism and comparably bad defender to Blair. Bile brings you something you don’t have, particularly with Pickett leaving, and that’s a solid rebounding 3/4 who has a BE body, is a capable shooter and is fearless. I have come around on being over Blair - the play last night @8-10 left in game where he didn’t give the ball to wide open Q in paint to jack a contested three and then followed with a stupid foul going for rebound totally lost me. His defense as always been lousy. But his shot is now very off, and yet he’s clearly out there hunting his game. Not a good look. I agree that his days as a Hoya are numbered. Looks like that’s reality at this point - I mean things have to be REALLY bad between him and Pat for him not to start on his Sr night. That’s an awful look for all involved. But whatever, with Pickett and Bile potentially leaving we have a gaping hole at 4 that none of incoming or existing guys can fill. Maybe Pat has a another grad transfer on hook, but getting Bile back would be huge. I think the fact that Bile can play 4 positions (power forward, small forward, big shooting guard, small ball center) makes him ideal to come back cause he can fill in anywhere. With Carey he is basically a 2 and seems mediocre sized/non athletic for the 3 but can play some. Blair is basically a 2 only, who maybe you can extend in a 3 small guard lineup. I think both of them eat into the playing time of the new guys. And Pickett, honestly it's time for him to move on, he's been here 4 years and can make some real money in the pros somehwere.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 4, 2021 13:05:25 GMT -5
I don’t think I’d expect Blair to return based on the end of this season. Pickett also probably will be told he can make a G League Roster or play overseas. Bile and Carey seem more likely candidates. We also have no idea of guys Ewing is eyeing on the grad transfer market, as that will help with roster class balance and experience. But I’d caution the optimism, as every other team is just as likely to return key guys as well. Its possible we’ll see Gillespie returning to Nova or Ballock at Creighton? Also as someone else pointed out there are 5 other BE teams with Top 25 recruiting classes too. So I think next year is going to be a year where all boats are rising with tide. Somehow if we can go from a 7-9 / 8-8 team to a 12-8 team next year, that may just be enough to be in the mix. But it’s going to be a really odd offseason for all programs, and honestly we probably are no better off than our peers in terms of who could come back and help us next year. Pickett referenced this as being his last home game at Georgetown and he certainly will have opportunities to play for pay next year. Even Blair should have opportunities. Question: can Ewing exceed the scholarship limit of 13 by bringing in seniors from other schools? No. You can exceed the scholarship limit if you retain your own seniors, but any transfers will count against the 13 limit.
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Post by practice on Mar 4, 2021 13:14:41 GMT -5
Blair, Pickett, Bile and Carey can all pursue varying levels of professional basketball. Out of that bunch, I'd love Pickett to stay, but don't see it. My second pick would be Bile -- maybe he can pick a Masters Degree -- he could be a wrecking ball next year. I still cringe when he launches those threes and/or when he gets the ball and clearly he's not giving it up ... but the guy is intense, can rebound and that set 3 pointer goes in. Also, the roster next year really doesn't have a Bile like force -- Holloway is developing and I don't see Billingsley as an immediate impact player. Maybe Sibley can put on 20-30 lbs of muscle -- but he's more of a 3 than a 4.
Finally - I see Carey down for 2 years on our scholarship table -- is that a typo???
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 4, 2021 15:25:12 GMT -5
Blair, Pickett, Bile and Carey can all pursue varying levels of professional basketball. Out of that bunch, I'd love Pickett to stay, but don't see it. My second pick would be Bile -- maybe he can pick a Masters Degree -- he could be a wrecking ball next year. I still cringe when he launches those threes and/or when he gets the ball and clearly he's not giving it up ... but the guy is intense, can rebound and that set 3 pointer goes in. Also, the roster next year really doesn't have a Bile like force -- Holloway is developing and I don't see Billingsley as an immediate impact player. Maybe Sibley can put on 20-30 lbs of muscle -- but he's more of a 3 than a 4. Finally - I see Carey down for 2 years on our scholarship table -- is that a typo??? No he has another year of eligibility even before the COVID rule that anyone can come back.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 4, 2021 21:21:08 GMT -5
Blair, Pickett, Bile and Carey can all pursue varying levels of professional basketball. Out of that bunch, I'd love Pickett to stay, but don't see it. My second pick would be Bile -- maybe he can pick a Masters Degree -- he could be a wrecking ball next year. I still cringe when he launches those threes and/or when he gets the ball and clearly he's not giving it up ... but the guy is intense, can rebound and that set 3 pointer goes in. Also, the roster next year really doesn't have a Bile like force -- Holloway is developing and I don't see Billingsley as an immediate impact player. Maybe Sibley can put on 20-30 lbs of muscle -- but he's more of a 3 than a 4. Finally - I see Carey down for 2 years on our scholarship table -- is that a typo??? No he has another year of eligibility even before the COVID rule that anyone can come back. Yes Carey graduated from Siena in three years and only played two of those.
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Post by hsaxon on Mar 5, 2021 20:52:43 GMT -5
Carey could definitely benefit from next year’s roster changes, with the driving ability being a strength of all the guards/wings next year, a sophomore Dante, and an improved post presence, the offense should generate more open 3-point opportunities. It does seem like the mask has impacted his shot, so hopefully he’ll be healed enough to take that off (or will be better acclimated to shooting with it) soon. Looks like he will be back. He was not honored at senior night.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 6, 2021 0:04:43 GMT -5
I believe Carey graduated from Sienna, but had only played two seasons.
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Post by hoya73 on Mar 6, 2021 10:01:29 GMT -5
I think: played one year at Mt St Mary's. Transferred to Siena, loaded up on coursework during sit out year. Played one year at Siena and graduated. Came to us with 2 years grad transfer eligibility.
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