dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 9, 2021 22:50:32 GMT -5
Likely the same reason Ighoefe did not see the floor. Against that zone you need a big who is a threat to shoot or pass from the top of the key. Some of the lineups late in the game, while better offensively, clearly suffered against break outs as there were at least 2 where nobody seemed to know which guy to pick up. So what do we do for the next two years of Qudus, Tim, Malcolm and Ryan at the 5? How did JT3 do it with Hopkins, Hayes and Hibbert? That is going to be tough!!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 9, 2021 22:52:02 GMT -5
Ewing hasn’t shown me much, but the Ewing is responsible for Every. Single. Thing. agenda is a little ridiculous. Be honest, at least half of our turnovers in the 2nd half were just boneheaded. If you want to argue that better X/Os to put guys in better spacing would lead to fewer TOs, maybe ... but most of what I saw was just lazy/careless effort. Last year, he was praised for how he was able to inspire a short handed team to play hard every game, all game. Now, they are lazy and careless but that’s not his fault? Which one is it since it can’t be both. Well if you are criticizing him for lazy and careless effort this season, you must have praised him for inspiring the short handed team last year, right? I mean it can't be both.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 9, 2021 22:54:33 GMT -5
I still would have put in Igoehefe. Syracuse had nobody who could challenge him in the paint on defense or offensively with o rebounding. Disagree. I think Timmy would have struggled enormously today. Was happy to see Wilson in. Frankly would not have minded seeing some more second half minutes as well. For whatever it's worth Malcolm is quicker and move s better than Tim. Using all three bigs makes for difficult decision making; none have really demonstrated a jumper.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 9, 2021 22:56:49 GMT -5
Last year, he was praised for how he was able to inspire a short handed team to play hard every game, all game. Now, they are lazy and careless but that’s not his fault? Which one is it since it can’t be both. Well if you are criticizing him for lazy and careless effort this season, you must have praised him for inspiring the short handed team last year, right? I mean it can't be both. I didn’t actually say anything about them being lazy and careless. That was someone defending him (in an odd way). I don’t think effort is the problem and have never said otherwise.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 9, 2021 23:04:51 GMT -5
Well if you are criticizing him for lazy and careless effort this season, you must have praised him for inspiring the short handed team last year, right? I mean it can't be both. I didn’t actually say anything about them being lazy and careless. That was someone defending him (in an odd way). I don’t think effort is the problem and have never said otherwise. Well the poster who was defending him never said anything about praising Ewing for inspiring effort last season.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 9, 2021 23:07:16 GMT -5
Hes tried that with Blair and Pickett MANY times. Blair has played 94% of the total possible minutes and Pickett 84%. So, I don’t think he’s really sent them much of a message by restricting playing time. Blair is 16th and Pickett 157th (out of ~5,000) in minutes percentage. These guys might need to be given a different message. Double97 with the encyclopedic knowledge.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 9, 2021 23:11:08 GMT -5
I didn’t actually say anything about them being lazy and careless. That was someone defending him (in an odd way). I don’t think effort is the problem and have never said otherwise. Well the poster who was defending him never said anything about praising Ewing for inspiring effort last season. No he didn’t and maybe he was like me and thought that playing hard was an entry level expectation and not worthy of praise but that would have put him in the extreme minority around here. But, regardless, it is odd to defend a coach by saying his players ere just lazy and careless.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 9, 2021 23:11:26 GMT -5
Blair has played 94% of the total possible minutes and Pickett 84%. So, I don’t think he’s really sent them much of a message by restricting playing time. Blair is 16th and Pickett 157th (out of ~5,000) in minutes percentage. These guys might need to be given a different message. Double97 with the encyclopedic knowledge. It’s not hard to look up stats.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 9, 2021 23:18:38 GMT -5
Taking three centers in one class was never a great idea.
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Post by the_way on Jan 9, 2021 23:40:48 GMT -5
Taking three centers in one class was never a great idea. Not true at all. Depth at the position was a problem. We had Govan with no backup. Sodom and Walker (who was wasn't a center) were gone. We were able to get Yurt as a transfer and he left after one playing year. We needed bigs at the time of their recruitment. That was a position of need. Tim and Q are solid players. Malcolm still raw. They have this season and 2 additional years of eligibility.
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Post by guru on Jan 9, 2021 23:43:24 GMT -5
We stink!
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 9, 2021 23:44:37 GMT -5
Taking three centers in one class was never a great idea. Not true at all. Depth at the position was a problem. We had Govan with no backup. Sodom and Walker (who was wasn't a center) were gone. We were able to get Yurt as a transfer and he left after one playing year. We needed bigs at the time of their recruitment. That was a position of need. Tim and Q are solid players. Malcolm still raw. They have this season and 2 additional years of eligibility. Taking 3 post-up/development centers in one class isn't a good idea regardless of what the depth at the position was at the time...
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Post by the_way on Jan 9, 2021 23:58:52 GMT -5
Yeah, it isn't a good idea for a coach to address depth issues with recruiting.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 10, 2021 0:22:59 GMT -5
Taking three centers in one class was never a great idea. Not true at all. Depth at the position was a problem. We had Govan with no backup. Sodom and Walker (who was wasn't a center) were gone. We were able to get Yurt as a transfer and he left after one playing year. We needed bigs at the time of their recruitment. That was a position of need. Tim and Q are solid players. Malcolm still raw. They have this season and 2 additional years of eligibility. Malcolm has 3 more years 😁
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 10, 2021 0:25:48 GMT -5
Not true at all. Depth at the position was a problem. We had Govan with no backup. Sodom and Walker (who was wasn't a center) were gone. We were able to get Yurt as a transfer and he left after one playing year. We needed bigs at the time of their recruitment. That was a position of need. Tim and Q are solid players. Malcolm still raw. They have this season and 2 additional years of eligibility. Malcolm has 3 more years 😁 True. 7th Year Doctoral Candidate Malcolm with be a monster.
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Post by the_way on Jan 10, 2021 0:29:08 GMT -5
Not true at all. Depth at the position was a problem. We had Govan with no backup. Sodom and Walker (who was wasn't a center) were gone. We were able to get Yurt as a transfer and he left after one playing year. We needed bigs at the time of their recruitment. That was a position of need. Tim and Q are solid players. Malcolm still raw. They have this season and 2 additional years of eligibility. Malcolm has 3 more years 😁 1 additional year for people to complain about his recruitment.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Jan 10, 2021 0:31:09 GMT -5
I think Malcolm can contribute significantly given what I have seen. He won't be a 25-28 minute player but so what?
Guess I'm in the minority but Tim is limited for me. One thing I dont understand on D is that he never puts his hands up. Am I crazy?
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 10, 2021 1:18:15 GMT -5
A mixed bag tonight. Obviously sucks to lose to those guys and that was clearly not anywhere close to their best team. But there were a couple of things I liked and didn't like out of us tonight.
Was pleased with Berger, Wilson, and Sibley's minutes tonight. Everyone will remember the ugly airball 3 from the corner by Sibley, but I thought all 3 looked composed tonight. May have been a different story with 35k in the house, but it's still a true road game and they gave us good minutes overall in trying to make up a large first half deficit. Wilson defended and rebounded well, looked comfortable out there in getting some boards in traffic, and was under control. Berger still struggles defensively, but defenses still have to honor his shooting and it definitely created space for others.
Was also happy with Bile (first time I've probably said that since Coppin). A couple really stupid fouls including fouling a 3 point shooter, but I felt like the zone almost relaxed him on the offensive end. With no immediate defender to try to iso against, he actually did a decent job surveying what was out there before making a move. Only the second game this year (SHU) he's gotten through without a turnover. If we can get him to play like that all the time and provide some outside shooting / rebounding, his 6th man type minutes might actually become justified.
Senior leaders. A lot's been made of the carelessness of Blair and Pickett. They each hit a couple of tough shots, Blair had some nice looks, and I was especially encouraged by Pickett being aggressive in going to the rim (couple of dunks, a third missed one, and 8 FTs which should be the norm for him rather than the exception), but both were just so lax with ball security. They had 7 of our 12 TOs (8 if you fault Blair for Sibley's TO, which I do) and that just can't happen against a team that really isn't exerting a ton of defensive pressure.
Q cannot have 1 rebound in a game. Outside of the first few minutes, he was not a factor offensively. But he likely didn't play much in the second half because he wasn't providing much of anything on the boards. There is no way Q can do that when Wilson has 3 rebs in 7 minutes. We needed to win the boards tonight and didn't, and a lot of that falls on Q.
In a 5 point game, you can certainly point to the turnovers being the difference. You can also point out the points in transition. We failed to get back a few times on live ball turnovers. We also still suck at finishing our own fast breaks. Would think that a team that wants to play fast would work more on that, but it's an issue that has plagued us all year.
Coaching. Mixed bag here as well, but more bad than good. Liked going with Berger vs. Dante when Dante was so ineffective tonight. Thought we had a good plan for getting shots against the zone, just had a bunch of open 3s that didn't fall. Didn't like putting Pickett in the middle of the zone; that 16 foot shot at the foul line isn't his strength and thought Carey would have been more effective there. We still insist on having our PGs inbound the ball on the baseline against larger defenders. Why? It caused another turnover here tonight. Ewing needs to make an adjustment and find a wing or big that can inbound the ball. I along with everyone else didn't understand the Holloway minutes (ahead of Sibley and Clark). He looked lost out there. Maybe the lead doesn't balloon to 13-15 points towards the end of the first half otherwise. Where was Clark? And again, we need to do a better job of spelling Blair/Pickett so they're not dead tired coming down the stretch of games. They're no good to us if they are just going to make fatigue-related mistakes late in games. Use the bench to get them some rest.
Overall, I'm not disappointed with the effort but this team continues to show it's incapable of stringing together those few positive plays in crucial moments that are necessary to win close games. Staff isn't doing the players any favors by employing suspect substitution patterns. Need to do a better job in keeping some of the starters fresh while instilling some confidence in the frosh by properly defining their roles in the rotation.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Jan 10, 2021 1:52:05 GMT -5
Wasnt perfect by any stretch but honestly Pickett is tailor made to be the guy just under the free throw line in the Cuse 2-3 zone, no? He should flourish there. Don not equipped to be there for me at all for a number of reasons.
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 10, 2021 2:27:11 GMT -5
This is the type of in-depth analysis that should drive more traffic to the board.
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