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Post by professorhoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:12:29 GMT -5
The problem though is if you have sixteen years of bad habits, it's much harder to change those habits to good habits or IQ. This is why it was impossible to improve Lubick's or Jeremiah Rivers' shot. In fact Lubick's shot somehow got even worse as he was psychologically afraid to shoot from outside his junior and senior year. Can't teach an old dog new tricks. Then we have to accept that the players have not had good coaching since elementary school? Which actually may be possible with AAU bad habits ingrained in lots of them, I guess.. Lubick was a coach's son so don't know why his shooting was so deficient. That's practice setting aside the psychological aspect. Cause Lubick's dad was a big oaf center who couldn't shoot either. Jeremiah Rivers is another example. Doc was a mediocre outsider shooter himself so Jeremiah had years of awful shooting habits. At Georgetown, Doc even got him the best shooting coach money can buy but it didn't really improve him at all. If you look at Blair he had those same sloppy habits and lack of concentration as when he came in. He has seemed to have contained his travel/hop step he used to always do but that took 2 and a half years for him to stop doing. Look at Tim Tebow, they were never able to correct his passing motion. Even Urban Meyer let him continue to use that motion. So it was too late to try to change it by the time he got to the NFL no matter how hard he tried. With the military they get people with a blank slate who they can mold. And then at higher or elite levels you are taking the best of the best who have great habits and high military IQ. You aren't taking retreads who have horrible habits and trying to coach them up.
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Post by smokeyjack on Jan 9, 2021 22:13:08 GMT -5
Pickett should consider some counseling. I’d wager he’s missed the rim on more FG attempts this year than any major conference player. He has made a bad team abominable this season. #regression.
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Post by kbones17 on Jan 9, 2021 22:13:09 GMT -5
We won the second half so that’s something. Still want to see more PT for the freshmen (Berger/Clark/Sibley). Harris has really struggled recently. Need to get Carey some more shots. I like the full court pressure; we should use that in each half (in spurts) rather than just as a last resort when we are down.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:14:38 GMT -5
Very hard Double97. Better to have someone with good habits or a clean slate rather than years of bad habits and low bb iq. So you think these guys come into college fully (or mostly) formed and there is little that coaches can do to help them improve? I dunno, maybe TJI can chime in?
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Post by kbones17 on Jan 9, 2021 22:17:36 GMT -5
We won the second half so that’s something. Still want to see more PT for the freshmen (Berger/Clark/Sibley). Harris has really struggled recently. Need to get Carey some more shots. I like the full court pressure; we should use that in each half (in spurts) rather than just as a last resort when we are down. Also, Harris needs to learn to seek out the contact to draw the foul on those drives. He’s trying to avoid and make circus shots rather than just jump into the arms and draw the foul.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:25:34 GMT -5
What happened to Qudus in the second half? Likely the same reason Ighoefe did not see the floor. Against that zone you need a big who is a threat to shoot or pass from the top of the key. Some of the lineups late in the game, while better offensively, clearly suffered against break outs as there were at least 2 where nobody seemed to know which guy to pick up. So what do we do for the next two years of Qudus, Tim, Malcolm and Ryan at the 5? How did JT3 do it with Hopkins, Hayes and Hibbert?
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:26:25 GMT -5
We won the second half so that’s something. Still want to see more PT for the freshmen (Berger/Clark/Sibley). Harris has really struggled recently. Need to get Carey some more shots. I like the full court pressure; we should use that in each half (in spurts) rather than just as a last resort when we are down. Also, Harris needs to learn to seek out the contact to draw the foul on those drives. He’s trying to avoid and make circus shots rather than just jump into the arms and draw the foul. I like the kid alot more than Akinjo from a personality perspective. But if Akinjo was performing anywhere near how Harris is performing now, I would be calling for Akinjo to be stuck on the bench. Dante isn't able to finish his spin layup at this level right now and so his finishes are basically turnovers. He gets caught in the air on both his finishes and passes and has nowhere to go but throw it up or throw it away.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:33:21 GMT -5
Likely the same reason Ighoefe did not see the floor. Against that zone you need a big who is a threat to shoot or pass from the top of the key. Some of the lineups late in the game, while better offensively, clearly suffered against break outs as there were at least 2 where nobody seemed to know which guy to pick up. I still would have put in Igoehefe. Syracuse had nobody who could challenge him in the paint on defense or offensively with o rebounding. Disagree. I think Timmy would have struggled enormously today. Was happy to see Wilson in. Frankly would not have minded seeing some more second half minutes as well.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:33:43 GMT -5
Bile had a good game. I don't think his haters can really crush him for tonight's performance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 22:36:27 GMT -5
Again our Seniors have zero basketball IQ, with three consecutive TO . Do you think “basketball IQ” can be improved or is it innate? Ewing hasn’t shown me much, but the Ewing is responsible for Every. Single. Thing. agenda is a little ridiculous. Be honest, at least half of our turnovers in the 2nd half were just boneheaded. If you want to argue that better X/Os to put guys in better spacing would lead to fewer TOs, maybe ... but most of what I saw was just lazy/careless effort.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 9, 2021 22:38:09 GMT -5
Do you think “basketball IQ” can be improved or is it innate? Ewing hasn’t shown me much, but the Ewing is responsible for Every. Single. Thing. agenda is a little ridiculous. Be honest, at least half of our turnovers in the 2nd half were just boneheaded. If you want to argue that better X/Os to put guys in better spacing would lead to fewer TOs, maybe ... but most of what I saw was just lazy/careless effort. Last year, he was praised for how he was able to inspire a short handed team to play hard every game, all game. Now, they are lazy and careless but that’s not his fault? Which one is it since it can’t be both.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:40:23 GMT -5
Bile had a good game. I don't think his haters can really crush him for tonight's performance. Agree with this. Had a couple of dopey moments but best game as a Hoya. Thought Pat used him better tonight as well.
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Post by smokeyjack on Jan 9, 2021 22:40:33 GMT -5
Also, Harris needs to learn to seek out the contact to draw the foul on those drives. He’s trying to avoid and make circus shots rather than just jump into the arms and draw the foul. I like the kid alot more than Akinjo from a personality perspective. But if Akinjo was performing anywhere near how Harris is performing now, I would be calling for Akinjo to be stuck on the bench. Dante isn't able to finish his spin layup at this level right now and so his finishes are basically turnovers. He gets caught in the air on both his finishes and passes and has nowhere to go but throw it up or throw it away. Come on man. OK, maybe Akinjo was a little selfish as a player. But James and Dante are apples and oranges. We’re all homers here, but Dante is keeping the seat warm for Beard. He can shoot a little. But he’s small, can’t finish, can’t get to the rim, is a very average facilitator, marginal ball-handler and is at best a passable defender. He’s playing because we have NO other option. If he’s our long term PG, then things have gone very, very wrong.
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Post by hoyadimes on Jan 9, 2021 22:40:42 GMT -5
This team reminds me of all the dudes I hated playing with at the Y of Anytown, USA. Like all the kids who were monsters in the 7th grade and stopped developing their game only for everyone to catch up to them by high school. We need those kids that had to develop their skills to offset the physical disadvantages, who have now grown up.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:41:08 GMT -5
Bile had a good game. I don't think his haters can really crush him for tonight's performance. Agree with this. Had a couple of dopey moments but best game as a Hoya. Thought Pat used him better tonight as well. Even when he missed his 2nd 3 he hustled to get the rebound all the way into the far corner.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:42:11 GMT -5
Do you think “basketball IQ” can be improved or is it innate? Ewing hasn’t shown me much, but the Ewing is responsible for Every. Single. Thing. agenda is a little ridiculous. Be honest, at least half of our turnovers in the 2nd half were just boneheaded. If you want to argue that better X/Os to put guys in better spacing would lead to fewer TOs, maybe ... but most of what I saw was just lazy/careless effort. JT2 sat a player for a lazy/careless effort. That’s one way to correct it.
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Post by thedragon on Jan 9, 2021 22:44:00 GMT -5
Ewing hasn’t shown me much, but the Ewing is responsible for Every. Single. Thing. agenda is a little ridiculous. Be honest, at least half of our turnovers in the 2nd half were just boneheaded. If you want to argue that better X/Os to put guys in better spacing would lead to fewer TOs, maybe ... but most of what I saw was just lazy/careless effort. JT2 sat a player for a lazy/careless effort. That’s one way to correct it. Hes tried that with Blair and Pickett MANY times.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 9, 2021 22:45:32 GMT -5
JT2 sat a player for a lazy/careless effort. That’s one way to correct it. Hes tried that with Blair and Pickett MANY times. Blair has played 94% of the total possible minutes and Pickett 84%. So, I don’t think he’s really sent them much of a message by restricting playing time. Blair is 16th and Pickett 157th (out of ~5,000) in minutes percentage. These guys might need to be given a different message.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:45:45 GMT -5
Agree with this. Had a couple of dopey moments but best game as a Hoya. Thought Pat used him better tonight as well. Even when he missed his 2nd 3 he hustled to get the rebound all the way into the far corner. Yes actually was clapping on that play. Really a shame this team has to rely so heavily on #0 and #1. Not their fault but still super frustrating.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 9, 2021 22:49:58 GMT -5
JT2 sat a player for a lazy/careless effort. That’s one way to correct it. Hes tried that with Blair and Pickett MANY times. According to the ESPN box score, Blair played 40 minutes and Pickett played 38 minutes. What message are they getting?
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