paranoia2
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Post by paranoia2 on Aug 21, 2020 19:51:46 GMT -5
Brutal & so right with the “I hope not” regarding Reggie Cameron.
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Post by blueandgray on Aug 21, 2020 22:34:36 GMT -5
I’m only referring to his style and his game....certainly not the results though.
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Post by bornhoya on Aug 21, 2020 23:00:18 GMT -5
I’m only referring to his style and his game....certainly not the results though. Cameron was not a P6 player
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Post by jwp91 on Aug 22, 2020 5:26:38 GMT -5
I’m only referring to his style and his game....certainly not the results though. I accept that. Reggie came when we were desperate for outside shooting, and he had so much promise. It just never materialized to my satisfaction. I’ve never met him. He is probably a great dude and Hoya . If he was a career .38 fg3 shooter instead of a career .326 shooter, I would feel differently Maybe it is exaggerated but Berger apparently shot .40+ from deep for some reasonable period of time.
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Post by prhoya on Aug 22, 2020 8:49:10 GMT -5
I’m only referring to his style and his game....certainly not the results though. Cameron was not a P6 player That’s 20/20 hindsight. Reggie was ranked #75 in his class. I’m not blaming JT3 for this miss. He needed a wing shooter in that class. I remember thinking Reggie was just what the doctor ordered.
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Post by prhoya on Aug 22, 2020 9:02:39 GMT -5
I hope TJ gets as many open looks with the Hoyas as he got in that highlight reel! Notwithstanding, he has range and repeats his shot mechanics as he gets his shot off quickly. I’m hopeful. Pat should use him as he used Mosely: help bring the ball up and go to a spot (Mosely’s was the right corner) out of the way, but ready to catch and shoot. Hopefully, he will shoot it more than Mosely. It will open up the half-court.
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Post by bornhoya on Aug 22, 2020 10:13:56 GMT -5
Cameron was not a P6 player That’s 20/20 hindsight. Reggie was ranked #75 in his class. I’m not blaming JT3 for this miss. He needed a wing shooter in that class. I remember thinking Reggie was just what the doctor ordered. I’m not knocking the guy he always seemed like a good teammate and a good kid plus he stayed and got his degree but in high school you could she his shot mechanics were super slow
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Post by emkmd on Aug 22, 2020 11:32:51 GMT -5
I thought this was the Berger thread, not the bash Reggie Cameron, an all around good guy, thread.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 22, 2020 11:40:40 GMT -5
It is always fluid on HoyaTalk.
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Post by jwp91 on Sept 9, 2020 20:22:29 GMT -5
Did I understand correctly that Patrick described Berger’s shooting ability as the best since Sleepy? Berger might see the floor more than many have speculated.
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Post by vv83 on Sept 9, 2020 22:03:43 GMT -5
Did I understand correctly that Patrick described Berger’s shooting ability as the best since Sleepy? Berger might see the floor more than many have speculated. I believe Ewing said something more like "we have one player who thinks he's a better shooter than Sleepy Floyd" - he was sharing Berger's impression of his own shooting ability. Ewing said it jokingly - he pretty clearly was trying to say that Berger was a good shooter, but he was also poking fun at Berger's view of his own talent level as a shooter.
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Post by s4hoyas on Sept 9, 2020 22:39:13 GMT -5
Berger (not Bergen) shot 44% from 3 as a senior...that's pretty impressive and a valuable tool to have...
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 10, 2020 16:14:34 GMT -5
We really have no knock-down shooters, so if Berger can fill that role it would be a major asset. We really have no proven three point shooters, so we need as many as we can get. I feel like, other than defense, we have really been missing high-quality shooters the last few years. We have definitely had guys at times who can shoot well, but I am thinking about guys who just consistently and efficiently get you baskets. If Berger can play that role, it would the team immensely.
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Post by hoyazeke on Sept 10, 2020 18:51:38 GMT -5
We really have no knock-down shooters, so if Berger can fill that role it would be a major asset. We really have no proven three point shooters, so we need as many as we can get. I feel like, other than defense, we have really been missing high-quality shooters the last few years. We have definitely had guys at times who can shoot well, but I am thinking about guys who just consistently and efficiently get you baskets. If Berger can play that role, it would the team immensely. No love for Juggy or Morko? Juggy is definitely a knock down shooter if he plays off the ball....if he has to do too much creating his J will suffer...
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Post by zxhoya on Sept 10, 2020 20:13:46 GMT -5
We really have no knock-down shooters, so if Berger can fill that role it would be a major asset. We really have no proven three point shooters, so we need as many as we can get. I feel like, other than defense, we have really been missing high-quality shooters the last few years. We have definitely had guys at times who can shoot well, but I am thinking about guys who just consistently and efficiently get you baskets. If Berger can play that role, it would the team immensely. No love for Juggy or Morko? Juggy is definitely a knock down shooter if he plays off the ball....if he has to do too much creating his J will suffer... Definitely Blair, although streaky he can burn it from distance. I think we have more perimeter weapons now with the additions of Carey, Sibley, D. Harris and Bile. Carey seems to be a known commodity and Bile has experience, young guys will definitely get opportunities to contribute and my picks are Sibley and D. Harris.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 11, 2020 13:43:24 GMT -5
We really have no knock-down shooters, so if Berger can fill that role it would be a major asset. We really have no proven three point shooters, so we need as many as we can get. I feel like, other than defense, we have really been missing high-quality shooters the last few years. We have definitely had guys at times who can shoot well, but I am thinking about guys who just consistently and efficiently get you baskets. If Berger can play that role, it would the team immensely. No love for Juggy or Morko? Juggy is definitely a knock down shooter if he plays off the ball....if he has to do too much creating his J will suffer... While I like Blair, his shooting percentage on threes last year was 32.6% and on twos, 41.7%. He still has value, though because his turnover rate is very low, he shoots free throws at a really high percentage, and for a guard, he is a decent rebounder. But, he's not a knock-down shooter. As for Pickett, I think the jury is still out on him. He is certainly not a knock down shooter on two's. His shooting percentages from two over the last three years have been 37.1%, 41.6%, and 38.7% last year. On threes, he's been 35.7%, 35.6% and 37.6%. So, he did improve last year, but I still think 37.6% combined with his poor two point shooting isn't enough. Pickett is also often inefficient because he's a turnover machine. I would add, neither of these guys have been particularly high volume. If we are going to make any waves in 2020-2021, we need both of these guys to step up from where they have been in the past. And, I hope it happens, but both need to show more consistently, and get baskets at a higher rate. And all of them need to take more threes!!! If you compare these guys' efficiency to past shooters we've had like DSR, Starks (in senior year), or Hollis Thompson, it shows how much room for improvement exists.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Sept 18, 2020 20:22:43 GMT -5
My wildcard pick to one day shock the world and make it to the league. If you can rain threes from deep, you have a shot (pun intended).
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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 22, 2020 14:41:23 GMT -5
The most intriguing part of the article imo. You had a big growth spurt in high school, and that’s allowed you to play not only the 1, but the 2 as well. What position do you see yourself playing at Georgetown?Growth spurt? Is this kid possibly still growing? Could he reach, say, 6'6? Also I came across this : http://instagram.com/p/B7mYjlVJkMw There is a link on YouTube which edits his highlights of one game in which he made seven three pointers in a half. But apparently that's not even his best outing based on this Instagram post. A school record ELEVEN three pointers in a game with TEN coming in a single half (which I assume is also a school record). Pretty impressive.
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Post by dense on Oct 22, 2020 14:56:07 GMT -5
Maybe, he doesn't have alot help from his dad in the height department, lol. He was the primary offensive option for that team. If you watch their games, all the plays are run to get him looks. Warley just had the ball in his hands often. He is used to shooting off the catch, the bounce. I think he will be an impact player and heavy minute getter in year 2.
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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 22, 2020 15:08:12 GMT -5
Maybe, he doesn't have alot help from his dad in the height department, lol. He was the primary offensive option for that team. If you watch their games, all the plays are run to get him looks. Warley just had the ball in his hands often. He is used to shooting off the catch, the bounce. I think he will be an impact player and heavy minute getter in year 2. Wait. Didn't the team have another potential five star prospect in its junior class besides Warley? How did TJ end up being the primary option?
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