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Post by johnnysnowplow on Dec 13, 2020 22:14:44 GMT -5
I been telling people about Dante Harris since he signed nobody would listen to me. He is better then James Akinjo right now. He would take Akinjo right now.he is more athletic shoots the 3 better and is a great defensive player and quicker. He is best point guard in Tennessee easily way underrated we have a top 50 recruit right here look out. Go Hoyas. Credit where credit is due. You’ve been touting this kid in multiple threads from the day he committed. This kid certainly seems like the real deal already.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Dec 14, 2020 1:29:29 GMT -5
I been telling people about Dante Harris since he signed nobody would listen to me. He is better then James Akinjo right now. He would take Akinjo right now.he is more athletic shoots the 3 better and is a great defensive player and quicker. He is best point guard in Tennessee easily way underrated we have a top 50 recruit right here look out. Go Hoyas. Credit where credit is due. You’ve been touting this kid in multiple threads from the day he committed. This kid certainly seems like the real deal already. Can you send another one our way?
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Post by KenteKrazies on Nov 3, 2021 22:52:24 GMT -5
I'm really wondering why this kid is so lightly recruited. If he's really the fastest (or even one of the fastest) guards in his class, can shoot the 3 as well as his stats show (48%), and his coach who played in the ACC thinks he could be the best PG in the state (even giving some leeway here for hyping your own kid), it seems like he has ability to play. Just the speed and shooting would seem enough to get notice from a major school besides us. Did Pat and staff just really see something others did not? *narrator voice* Big Pat had in fact seen something the others did not.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Nov 3, 2021 23:12:46 GMT -5
Really hoping he silences his haters on this board this season
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Post by bigelephant on Nov 4, 2021 4:58:06 GMT -5
So do I!
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 4, 2021 6:24:10 GMT -5
Really hoping he silences his haters on this board this season We will all start feeling better when we stop worrying about the approval of a few unhappy people.
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Post by calhoya on Nov 4, 2021 6:37:48 GMT -5
Again I must have missed something. Does Dante Harris have haters on this Board? Seems to me that he progressed well as a freshman thrown into a role that was much larger and more important than any of us expected. Not saying there are not some legitimate criticisms and hoping that his outside shot improves this year, but this kid seems like a natural leader.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 4, 2021 7:31:25 GMT -5
Again I must have missed something. Does Dante Harris have haters on this Board? Seems to me that he progressed well as a freshman thrown into a role that was much larger and more important than any of us expected. Not saying there are not some legitimate criticisms and hoping that his outside shot improves this year, but this kid seems like a natural leader. IIRC, at least one poster has stated he's the worst PG in the Big East. Here's his statement: "Please show me a worse starting PG in the Big East last season than Dante Harris. I'll wait patiently for your response."
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 4, 2021 9:11:25 GMT -5
Again I must have missed something. Does Dante Harris have haters on this Board? Seems to me that he progressed well as a freshman thrown into a role that was much larger and more important than any of us expected. Not saying there are not some legitimate criticisms and hoping that his outside shot improves this year, but this kid seems like a natural leader. IIRC, at least one poster has stated he's the worst PG in the Big East. Here's his statement: "Please show me a worse starting PG in the Big East last season than Dante Harris. I'll wait patiently for your response." 100% stand by the comment. He was the worst starting PG in the Big East last season. The point is, he should never have been starting. He was recruited to be a 10-15 minute/game sparkplug off the bench. Due to Ewing's poor recruiting/player retention, Harris was forced into a starting role. If he's your starting point guard, you're probably not going very far in the Big East (as evidenced by last year's standings and this year's predictions). That said, he seems like a great kid and he's easy to root for, so I hope he does well in a role that's probably too large for him.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 4, 2021 10:11:33 GMT -5
IIRC, at least one poster has stated he's the worst PG in the Big East. Here's his statement: "Please show me a worse starting PG in the Big East last season than Dante Harris. I'll wait patiently for your response." 100% stand by the comment. He was the worst starting PG in the Big East last season. To discuss this with you, first we need to know how did you measure this? What are you taking into consideration?
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 4, 2021 10:20:09 GMT -5
100% stand by the comment. He was the worst starting PG in the Big East last season. To discuss this with you, first we need to know how did you measure this? What are you taking into consideration? Statistics and eye test. I don't want to get accused of trashing one of our players, so I'm not going to go into a deep back/forth on this. If you think there were worse starting PGs in the Big East last season, I'd love to know who they were. By the way, if we're debating between whether Dante Harris is the 9th, 10th, or 11th best PG in the Big East, doesn't that tell us enough of a story right there?
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Post by Retro_hoya on Nov 4, 2021 10:30:33 GMT -5
IIRC, at least one poster has stated he's the worst PG in the Big East. Here's his statement: "Please show me a worse starting PG in the Big East last season than Dante Harris. I'll wait patiently for your response." 100% stand by the comment. He was the worst starting PG in the Big East last season. The point is, he should never have been starting. He was recruited to be a 10-15 minute/game sparkplug off the bench. Due to Ewing's poor recruiting/player retention, Harris was forced into a starting role. If he's your starting point guard, you're probably not going very far in the Big East (as evidenced by last year's standings and this year's predictions). That said, he seems like a great kid and he's easy to root for, so I hope he does well in a role that's probably too large for him. - not sure if I’m doing quotes right - first post, recent GU grad. I don’t usually agree with boyas posts but I think this is a good example of a post that seems like less of an attack and where he qualifies his legitimate (according to statistics) point with “great kid” “easy to root for” and “hope he does well”. Hoyaboya, I think fewer people would get as irritated if more of your posts were like this! In my view - Harris might not have been great statistically last year but he has fire, is absolutely a hard worker, and I’m hoping for a leap in performance / production with more ball handlers to share the role this year (beard and hopefully Carey can limit TOs)
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Post by prhoya on Nov 4, 2021 10:39:00 GMT -5
To discuss this with you, first we need to know how did you measure this? What are you taking into consideration? Statistics and eye test. I don't want to get accused of trashing one of our players, so I'm not going to go into a deep back/forth on this. If you think there were worse starting PGs in the Big East last season, I'd love to know who they were. By the way, if we're debating between whether Dante Harris is the 9th, 10th, or 11th best PG in the Big East, doesn't that tell us enough of a story right there? I just want your honest opinion and what you’re basing it on. But, I disagree with you. Like you said in your previous post, Dante wasn’t recruited to be the starter, but it ended up that way due to Pat’s roster construction. It was a small sample, but I would say that Jalen was worse than Dante. Tyler is a question mark, but I’m optimistic. I’m not going to look into other BE guards’ stats, but I’ll leave it with a post-game quote from one of the top 3 coaches/managers in college basketball and the one Pat should be imitating in program building: "Down the stretch it got down to a one-possession game and they executed those last two possessions a little bit better than us," Wright said. "We had a tough time controlling Harris." If Wright couldn’t control him, then the kid has something.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 10:45:37 GMT -5
Dante impressed me defensively during the second half of last year. He is not going to be a stat stuffer with steals/rebounds because of his size, but he pestered opposing guards quite effectively down the stretch.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 4, 2021 10:47:29 GMT -5
Which is huge and does not show up on any stat sheets or analytics...
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Post by hoyazeke on Nov 4, 2021 10:50:47 GMT -5
100% stand by the comment. He was the worst starting PG in the Big East last season. The point is, he should never have been starting. He was recruited to be a 10-15 minute/game sparkplug off the bench. Due to Ewing's poor recruiting/player retention, Harris was forced into a starting role. If he's your starting point guard, you're probably not going very far in the Big East (as evidenced by last year's standings and this year's predictions). That said, he seems like a great kid and he's easy to root for, so I hope he does well in a role that's probably too large for him. - not sure if I’m doing quotes right - first post, recent GU grad. I don’t usually agree with boyas posts but I think this is a good example of a post that seems like less of an attack and where he qualifies his legitimate (according to statistics) point with “great kid” “easy to root for” and “hope he does well”. Hoyaboya, I think fewer people would get as irritated if more of your posts were like this! In my view - Harris might not have been great statistically last year but he has fire, is absolutely a hard worker, and I’m hoping for a leap in performance / production with more ball handlers to share the role this year (beard and hopefully Carey can limit TOs) The reason why I personally disagree with this take from boya is because it doesn't take into consideration Dante's improvement over the year. It also doesn't consider his defensive contribution. Dante struggled from the 2nd StJs game for about 2 months with his shot but he got better. We'll see in 8 days.
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Post by Retro_hoya on Nov 4, 2021 11:39:32 GMT -5
- not sure if I’m doing quotes right - first post, recent GU grad. I don’t usually agree with boyas posts but I think this is a good example of a post that seems like less of an attack and where he qualifies his legitimate (according to statistics) point with “great kid” “easy to root for” and “hope he does well”. Hoyaboya, I think fewer people would get as irritated if more of your posts were like this! In my view - Harris might not have been great statistically last year but he has fire, is absolutely a hard worker, and I’m hoping for a leap in performance / production with more ball handlers to share the role this year (beard and hopefully Carey can limit TOs) The reason why I personally disagree with this take from boya is because it doesn't take into consideration Dante's improvement over the year. It also doesn't consider his defensive contribution. Dante struggled from the 2nd StJs game for about 2 months with his shot but he got better. We'll see in 8 days. I agree with you, his improvements over the season should be taken into consideration along with how much of a problem he was in the BET and later in the season for other guards as other posters have said. Looking forward to the season and hoping that Dante impresses (I think he will) and proves that he has what it takes to be the lead guard.
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Post by practice on Nov 4, 2021 11:56:52 GMT -5
- not sure if I’m doing quotes right - first post, recent GU grad. I don’t usually agree with boyas posts but I think this is a good example of a post that seems like less of an attack and where he qualifies his legitimate (according to statistics) point with “great kid” “easy to root for” and “hope he does well”. Hoyaboya, I think fewer people would get as irritated if more of your posts were like this! In my view - Harris might not have been great statistically last year but he has fire, is absolutely a hard worker, and I’m hoping for a leap in performance / production with more ball handlers to share the role this year (beard and hopefully Carey can limit TOs) The reason why I personally disagree with this take from boya is because it doesn't take into consideration Dante's improvement over the year. It also doesn't consider his defensive contribution. Dante struggled from the 2nd StJs game for about 2 months with his shot but he got better. We'll see in 8 days. He was the MOP of the BE tournament and probably needed a larger size pair of shorts for the run at MSG. Was he a big time recruit? No. Did he look like a freshman at times? Yes. Was he expected to start? No ... But he was The Man when the dust settled and we cut down the nets. The experience and success he had last year could propel his development way beyond what we expected a year ago. He may not be a legit 6', but he is an oversized leader and a guy plays with a 7' chip on his shoulder. I even suspect Hoyaboya might know this and is secretly supplying Dante with some of that Haterade which he clearly drinks gallons of. The rest of the BE starting point guards were good -- and last November, I'd rather have 33 year old Charlie Moore (DePaul), #27 ranked senior Paul Scruggs (Xavier), #31 ranked DJ Carton (Marquette), senior Aaron Thompson (Butler), David Duke (Providence), Posh Alexander (SJU), SR Shavar Reynolds (SHU), SR Collin Gillespie (VU), JR but really SR RJ Cole (UConn), and Marcus Zegarowski from Creighton ... only Posh Alexander was a Freshman ... everyone else was either a JR or SR ... Posh ended up #80 and a 4 star by ESPN ... and Dante ended up NR. The thing about Dante is this year, next year, and then his Senior year ... dude is just going to get better. He will ... he did last year and there are many areas for him to improve. I think it's a classless move to compare a 5'10, 140 lbs wet, projected back up, not rated freshman point guard to the starting guards of the BE. Boy o Boy what fanbase!
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 4, 2021 12:08:01 GMT -5
To discuss this with you, first we need to know how did you measure this? What are you taking into consideration? Statistics and eye test. I don't want to get accused of trashing one of our players, so I'm not going to go into a deep back/forth on this. If you think there were worse starting PGs in the Big East last season, I'd love to know who they were. By the way, if we're debating between whether Dante Harris is the 9th, 10th, or 11th best PG in the Big East, doesn't that tell us enough of a story right there? I'd say Harris was better than Bynum & Breed from PC. SH had a former walk on running point for a large chunk of their season as well..
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Post by prhoya on Nov 4, 2021 12:16:49 GMT -5
I think it's a classless move to compare a 5'10, 140 lbs wet, projected back up, not rated freshman point guard to the starting guards of the BE. Boy o Boy what fanbase! One poster represents the whole fanbase? How dramatic!
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