prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Mar 21, 2019 14:32:25 GMT -5
Not quite sure I understand this hire. Christian is a Shaka acolyte, but his teams have generally been pretty mediocre, with the exception of the tiny guard he had at MSM. How about less expensive than JT3?
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Post by SDHoya on Mar 21, 2019 14:41:52 GMT -5
Not quite sure I understand this hire. Christian is a Shaka acolyte, but his teams have generally been pretty mediocre, with the exception of the tiny guard he had at MSM. How about less expensive than JT3? If III is really considering job offers from GW and the like,, he isn’t expecting power conference money.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 21, 2019 14:48:33 GMT -5
How about less expensive than JT3? If III is really considering job offers from GW and the like,, he isn’t expecting power conference money. Is JT3 really considering job offers from GW and the like? I cannot see him doing all the recruiting stuff without getting the power conference money.
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Post by guru on Mar 21, 2019 15:25:13 GMT -5
Not quite sure I understand this hire. Christian is a Shaka acolyte, but his teams have generally been pretty mediocre, with the exception of the tiny guard he had at MSM. How about less expensive than JT3? JT3 is going to have to dramatically lower his price if he wants another job. We were wildly overpaying him. I doubt that's what kept him from this gig, though.
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 21, 2019 15:26:33 GMT -5
I think he is still the contingency plan for us if we can't get things turned around over the next few years. Having him at GW is good from that perspective. Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but an AD needs to be preparing in case it does.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Mar 21, 2019 20:22:08 GMT -5
Good hire for GW.
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 22, 2019 9:06:45 GMT -5
Bryce Drew was just relieved of his duties at Vanderbilt after a 9-23 season (winless in the SEC). Could this be a potential landing place for JT3? Strong academics and a Power 5 conference. Only pressure would probably be to avoid finishing last every season.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 22, 2019 9:18:18 GMT -5
Bryce Drew was just relieved of his duties at Vanderbilt after a 9-23 season (winless in the SEC). Could this be a potential landing place for JT3? Strong academics and a Power 5 conference. Only pressure would probably be to avoid finishing last every season. Plenty of money there...
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Post by 71hoya on Mar 22, 2019 10:31:19 GMT -5
Philadelphia Inquirer today mentioned JT3 as a possible pick for the coaching position at St Joes University. Don't think it will happen.
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Mar 22, 2019 11:19:21 GMT -5
I like JT III at Vanderbilt. They have some good recruits and good players they'd like to keep and he has a solid track record of developing NBA players.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 22, 2019 11:22:55 GMT -5
I like JT III at Vanderbilt. They have some good recruits and good players they'd like to keep and he has a solid track record of developing NBA players. Beat me to it. Good academic fit as well.
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Post by practice on Mar 22, 2019 11:39:13 GMT -5
Because he's thrown his name out there and because of his name, it is more likely than not that JT3 will be at least mentioned for most if not all head coaching jobs in D1. I'll wait and see who actually interviews him.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 22, 2019 12:25:05 GMT -5
Because he's thrown his name out there and because of his name, it is more likely than not that JT3 will be at least mentioned for most if not all head coaching jobs in D1. I'll wait and see who actually interviews him. Exactly. I have wondered whether even with GW the reports were mostly based on JT3 making himself available rather than serious consideration. I'd be really surprised if JT3 had any serious interest in GW or has any in St. Joe's. He's not going to make what he made at Georgetown anywhere, but he can make a lot more money at a place like Vanderbilt (especially eventually, if he has success), whereas the ceiling at a place like GW is really low.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 22, 2019 12:25:06 GMT -5
I like JT III at Vanderbilt. They have some good recruits and good players they'd like to keep and he has a solid track record of developing NBA players. Vanderbilt didn't have much of a choice letting Bryce Drew go. He's a good coach but losing 20 straight to end the season is a fireable offense in the SEC.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 22, 2019 12:55:46 GMT -5
Because he's thrown his name out there and because of his name, it is more likely than not that JT3 will be at least mentioned for most if not all head coaching jobs in D1. I'll wait and see who actually interviews him. Exactly. I have wondered whether even with GW the reports were mostly based on JT3 making himself available rather than serious consideration. I'd be really surprised if JT3 had any serious interest in GW or has any in St. Joe's. He's not going to make what he made at Georgetown anywhere, but he can make a lot more money at a place like Vanderbilt (especially eventually, if he has success), whereas the ceiling at a place like GW is really low. Exactly. Who here really believes that JT3 wants to start from scratch and take a losing team, put in a lot of effort on the recruiting trail, teach the style of ball he knows, be exposed to no safety net a la Princeton and Pops' GU, be exposed to critique from boosters, fans and the like when he cannot explain losses (like he did here), not earn top dollar, and all to turn a team around? That's a lot of work and a lot of risk. Is he that person at this stage of his life? If you do believe it, what are the reasons for him to do it? After his time here, he doesn't need the money and he probably thinks he doesn't need to prove anything. Would he do it for the love of the sport? I've always seen him more as a TV person. He has a likable personality, is eloquent, knows the ins and outs about college ball and has that Thompson legacy.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 22, 2019 13:02:36 GMT -5
There'd be a certain irony to III ending up at Vanderbilt. I'm sure the vision of Jeff Green allegedly "travelling" is still fixed in some boosters' heads.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 22, 2019 13:17:42 GMT -5
There'd be a certain irony to III ending up at Vanderbilt. I'm sure the vision of Jeff Green allegedly "travelling" is still fixed in some boosters' heads. I went to Vandy for law school, so I know a fair number of Commodores fans. Believe me, that vision is very much still fixed in their heads. And a lot of revisionists have convinced themselves that the Green "travel" was the only thing that kept VU out of the final four (as if they wouldn't have to play and beat 1-seed UNC in the next game).
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Post by guru on Mar 22, 2019 13:19:28 GMT -5
He should really go back to the Ivy League. I wonder if he wishes he never left Princeton? He said at the time Georgetown was the only school he’d have left Princeton for. He inherited a ton of talent here and coached it up well, but then never figured out how to win when it mattered once his own players were in place. His final years here were painful - and there’s a ton of tape for big-time suitors to see all the problems.
He’d be a great choice for a mid-major with serious academic intentions.
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Mar 22, 2019 14:02:11 GMT -5
JT III didn't inherit a ton of talent when he came to Georgetown. Wallace was almost literally a walk on, Hibbert was a project - Green was a freshman who had gotten hotter senior in high school, but the team had a losing record the previous year and little depth.
Almost by definition any program he takes over will require a turnaround.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 22, 2019 15:48:35 GMT -5
JT III didn't inherit a ton of talent when he came to Georgetown. Wallace was almost literally a walk on, Hibbert was a project - Green was a freshman who had gotten hotter senior in high school, but the team had a losing record the previous year and little depth. Almost by definition any program he takes over will require a turnaround. JT 3 returned three starters from 2003-04. The cupboard was not bare. Brandon Bowman (Jr, 15.9 ppg in 2003-04) Ashanti Cook (Jr, 9.2 ppg) Darrel Owens (Jr, 8.1 ppg)
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