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Post by tribeninerhoya on Mar 14, 2019 10:54:54 GMT -5
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Post by HometownHoya on Mar 14, 2019 10:58:59 GMT -5
I think that would be a great fit for him. His offense was always designed to do more with less and hopefully he figured out modern defense with his few years off.
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Post by hoyafan23 on Mar 14, 2019 11:02:13 GMT -5
Don't think he would swoop that low...
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Post by tribeninerhoya on Mar 14, 2019 11:04:17 GMT -5
Don't think he would swoop that low... Not sure it's that "low" given W&M's recent moderate success and talent on the team (for example, Nathan Knight is one of the other 5 finalists for the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar award). Not to mention the previous coach got 16 years without really having to perform at all. Pretty low pressure job.
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Mar 14, 2019 12:07:12 GMT -5
Vanderbilt and Northwestern jobs may be kicking free if current trends continue in the next year or two. And California. And Wake Forest And Boston College. Plenty of strong academic schools with less-than-lunatic fan bases in big conferences- several of which have strong hoops cultures- where JT III could land if he wanted to return to coaching.
JT III skidded badly at the end of his time at GU, but 8 NCAA tournament appearances in 12 years, a final four, and multiple NBA players looks just fine if he were to walk into any number of big conference job interviews.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 14, 2019 12:10:36 GMT -5
Wherever he lands, I hope he's figured out how to coach a team to defend without fouling.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 14, 2019 12:16:23 GMT -5
Well, that would get us out from under part of his deal. It has a year left, doesn't it? We could invest in another assistant.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 14, 2019 12:19:15 GMT -5
Well, that would get us out from under part of his deal. It has a year left, doesn't it? We could invest in another assistant. My impression was that this was his last season, so I think Georgetown is free of that contract after 2019. I would be surprised to see JT3 go to William & Mary, as that would be a huge step down, and I think there are high-majors that would hire him. Clearly, his time at Georgetown ended badly, but his record is still far better than most guys on the coaching market. I'm confident he could find a place in a high-major conference if he wanted, though probably at a school that has struggled for a while. I think he'd actually be a smart choice for a school facing integrity problems, like LSU. Of course, the flip side is JT3 may not want to enter such a situation.
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Post by tribeninerhoya on Mar 14, 2019 12:36:53 GMT -5
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Post by swhoya on Mar 14, 2019 12:54:21 GMT -5
Wherever he lands, I hope he's figured out how to coach a team to defend without fouling. I never understand the need to throw shade at someone that many not have brought the wins you wanted to the university but certainly served with dignity and respect. Wish him well and let him move on. (I used throwing shade correctly right? Not quite sure how the kids are using it these days)
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 14, 2019 13:30:18 GMT -5
Wherever he lands, I hope he's figured out how to coach a team to defend without fouling. I never understand the need to throw shade at someone that many not have brought the wins you wanted to the university but certainly served with dignity and respect. Wish him well and let him move on. (I used throwing shade correctly right? Not quite sure how the kids are using it these days) It wasn't meant as throwing shade. JT3 accomplished a lot during his time here, no debate there. But more than anything, his inability to adapt to the rule changes the NCAA enforced a few years back was probably the biggest reason for his failures during the end of his tenure here. If he doesn't learn from his lesson and adapt his defense philosophies accordingly, he will fail again no matter what level he ends up coaching. That was the point of the original post. I hope that's not the case and he does well wherever he ends up.
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Post by practice on Mar 14, 2019 13:36:42 GMT -5
Last two years he was 29-36 finishing those seasons 1-7 and 3-11. I suspect he'll have to take a lower tier job -- or a complete mess at the Power 5. I think he'd have the most success in a one-bid league -- his offense doesn't need great athletes. W&M seems like it would be a good fit.
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Mar 14, 2019 13:52:26 GMT -5
I think W & M is a good fit as well. Academically rigorous and a nice place. He needs a re-start and less pressure and glare is better. I’m sure he has thought through some things but he needs time to recover from small failures.
I would never see him doing this, but I think he would be an excellent women’s basketball coach. Those coaches have a better chance to focus on fundamentals and avoid the worst aspects of recruiting. The stage is generally a lot smaller. I’m pretty sure his ego would prevent him from making that jump. (FWIW it’s probably all good, as I prefer to see more women coaching women’s basketball.)
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Post by Elvado on Mar 14, 2019 14:04:01 GMT -5
I hope Coach finds a job he loves and where he can succeed. If W&M is that place, fantastic.
He is a good man who gave all he had to GU and did let’s not forget take us to our last Final Four to date. Much of that is lost in his exit.
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 14, 2019 14:31:42 GMT -5
JT3 has an overall W-L record of 346-193 in 17 years as head coach (Princeton 4, GU 13) That is a winning percentage of: 64% At GU, he won 65% of his games against an OOC schedule that was regularly among the Top 10 in the country Won 58% in the BE - arguably the most competitive in the country during most of his time there.
He also won 3 Ivy Championships and 3 BE championships and 1 BET 10 NCAA Tournaments 4 NIT -- for a total of 14 Post season appearances in 17 years as HC 1 Sweet Sixteen Finish 1 Final Four
He is a class act who will represent whatever University he chooses very well. 0 scandals and most kids graduated. HIs teams were almost always ranked, and spent at least some time in the TOP TEN for years. Lots of high seeds in the NCAAs
His last few years were very disappointing. Some said he lost the first to recruit. Others that he failed to adapt to changing rules and a changing game. If he had finished strong, he would still have a job. But the above is a pretty strong coaching track record. Maybe not a leading candidate for the most competitive jobs out there, but a much stronger candidate than most for the majority of jobs. IF he wants it.
Good luck to him. Solid member of the Hoya family who rebuilt the program.
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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 14, 2019 14:32:03 GMT -5
He might do better out of the shadow of his father -- at least he wouldn't have to deal with Pops storming into halftime meetings as if he were still coaching the team.
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Post by madgesiq92 on Mar 14, 2019 14:33:59 GMT -5
I hope Coach finds a job he loves and where he can succeed. If W&M is that place, fantastic. He is a good man who gave all he had to GU and did let’s not forget take us to our last Final Four to date. Much of that is lost in his exit. Also first Big East tiourmamnent championship since 1989– which is hard to believe. We have won this tourney 1 time in last 30 years.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 14, 2019 14:41:27 GMT -5
But the above is a pretty strong coaching track record. Maybe not a leading candidate for the most competitive jobs out there, but a much stronger candidate than most for the majority of jobs. IF he wants it. Good luck to him. Solid member of the Hoya family who rebuilt the program. Exactly. If a school wants an accomplished coach on paper, it would be hard to find many better candidates (since they are generally already coaching at fairly top schools). Even with the last few years of poor performance, the multiple NCAA appearances and high seeds could be appealing. While we heard a lot in his last years about how it couldn't get worse, etc., this ignores that the program was truly in the pits in 2004 when he took it over from Esherick (which wasn't entirely Esherick's fault, since JT Jr. left him a dumpster fire), and it really wasn't very good in the latter John Thompson Jr. years either. It was the Sweet 16 and Final Four successes (and other success in the Big East) that led to the commitment to build the practice facility (without that success, I am confident it would never have been built). It also led to Georgetown being willing to pay a top notch salary to its coach (something that would have likely never happened without success) and treatment of the program as a major asset for the school. Those are aspects that are continuing to help the program even today. Hopefully, with either NCAA or NIT success this year, Ewing can continue to build the program and reach similar (or better) success.
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Post by guru on Mar 14, 2019 15:18:46 GMT -5
JT3 and William and Mary would be the perfect fit. I hope he gets the job.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 14, 2019 15:45:07 GMT -5
What kind of comp package could he expect there? What is the W&M coach getting now? What about the BC coach? I could see him there, close to Martha's V.
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