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Post by madgesiq92 on Jan 22, 2019 12:52:18 GMT -5
Maybe I am the only one more entertained by a 57-46 dissection of Syracuse in the dome then a miracle win over Providence. I am finding the games this season much more comparable to three of the high scoring overtime games in DFWs excellent Esherick bottom 10, with Akinjo playing the role of Kevin Braswell calling his own number. To me, high scoring does not necessarily equate to entertainment, especially when the basketball being played is not so good fundamentally. This season seems more like a return to the kind of chaotic inexplicable games we saw at the end of JT2/Esherick era then anything new and fresh. I don't think we are playing good basketball and the KenPom numbers back it as the worst season since 2004. Understanding that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I trust the analytical numbers over the "eye test". The below is for "entertainment" purposes only. Stay away from sharp objects. www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/bb-esherickbottom10.htm2002 Notre Dame 116 Georgetown 111 (4 OT) Providence Win, Marquette Loss In the first OT, Georgetown had the ball with 17 seconds left. Kevin Braswell brought the ball up the court but did not pass the ball, settling for a long shot that rimmed away. In the second, Braswell fared even more poorly, ignoring options in Mike Sweetney and Tony Bethel and launching up a 30 footer that had little chance. In the third OT, Gerald Riley had the ball and a chance to win, but his shot was blocked by Ryan Humphrey and deflected to Kevin Braswell, who sank a 20 footer at the buzzer, only to be waived off for a shot clock violation (the shot clock expired at 0.7 seconds to play). L 1999 Villanova 93 Georgetown 90 (2OT) --- Providence win In the second OT, Georgetown leads 90-87 with 14 seconds to play. Anthony Perry misses a free throw, and Villanova has one chance--a three pointer. To everyone's dismay, Nova's Howard Brown gets away from Rhese Gibson in the zone and hits a 22 footer with 2.6 seconds remaining. With Nat Burton calling a timeout (unseen by officials), Daymond Jackson lobs the ball in the direction of Anthony Perry, which is promptly stolen by Brooks Sales, flipped to Jermaine Medley, who launches a 28 footer at the buzzer for the win. L 2002 Rutgers 89 Georgetown 87 (2 OT)---- Xavier, St Johns loss After building an 18 point lead midway in the first half, Georgetown scores two baskets in the final four minutes of the half, as Rutgers cut the lead to eight at the half with a full court press that GU could not navigate most of the game. With 5:30 to play, with Georgetown up 76-67. Georgetown proceeds to make no baskets, add four free throws, and commit multiple turnovers down the stretch, as Rutgers tied the game and sent it into overtime. Georgetown roars out of the OT period and leads 85-80 in the first 1:10 of OT...but game game effectively ends where Victor Samnick fails to see Mike Sweetney under the basket and launches his own errant shot.
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Post by guru on Jan 22, 2019 12:55:44 GMT -5
Maybe I am the only one more entertained by a 57-46 dissection of Syracuse in the dome then a miracle win over Providence. I am finding the games this season much more comparable to three of the high scoring overtime games in DFWs excellent Esherick bottom 10, with Akinjo playing the role of Kevin Braswell calling his own number. To me, high scoring does not necessarily equate to entertainment, especially when the basketball being played is not so good fundamentally. This season seems more like a return to the kind of chaotic inexplicable games we saw at the end of JT2/Esherick era then anything new and fresh. I don't think we are playing good basketball and the KenPom numbers back it as the worst season since 2004. Understanding that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I trust the analytical numbers over the "eye test". The below is for "entertainment" purposes only. Stay away from sharp objects. www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/bb-esherickbottom10.htm2002 Notre Dame 116 Georgetown 111 (4 OT) Providence Win, Marquette Loss In the first OT, Georgetown had the ball with 17 seconds left. Kevin Braswell brought the ball up the court but did not pass the ball, settling for a long shot that rimmed away. In the second, Braswell fared even more poorly, ignoring options in Mike Sweetney and Tony Bethel and launching up a 30 footer that had little chance. In the third OT, Gerald Riley had the ball and a chance to win, but his shot was blocked by Ryan Humphrey and deflected to Kevin Braswell, who sank a 20 footer at the buzzer, only to be waived off for a shot clock violation (the shot clock expired at 0.7 seconds to play). L 1999 Villanova 93 Georgetown 90 (2OT) --- Providence win In the second OT, Georgetown leads 90-87 with 14 seconds to play. Anthony Perry misses a free throw, and Villanova has one chance--a three pointer. To everyone's dismay, Nova's Howard Brown gets away from Rhese Gibson in the zone and hits a 22 footer with 2.6 seconds remaining. With Nat Burton calling a timeout (unseen by officials), Daymond Jackson lobs the ball in the direction of Anthony Perry, which is promptly stolen by Brooks Sales, flipped to Jermaine Medley, who launches a 28 footer at the buzzer for the win. L 2002 Rutgers 89 Georgetown 87 (2 OT)---- Xavier, St Johns loss After building an 18 point lead midway in the first half, Georgetown scores two baskets in the final four minutes of the half, as Rutgers cut the lead to eight at the half with a full court press that GU could not navigate most of the game. With 5:30 to play, with Georgetown up 76-67. Georgetown proceeds to make no baskets, add four free throws, and commit multiple turnovers down the stretch, as Rutgers tied the game and sent it into overtime. Georgetown roars out of the OT period and leads 85-80 in the first 1:10 of OT...but game game effectively ends where Victor Samnick fails to see Mike Sweetney under the basket and launches his own errant shot. The dissection of Syracuse happened six years ago. Completely irrelevant.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 22, 2019 16:58:22 GMT -5
Where you are on Ewing is most likely dependent on your assessment of the talent on the team.
For me, I think the talent level, especially once you incorporate the age of the players involved, is very low. Similar to last year, and honestly, the last two years may be most similar to the end of the Esherick era, in the one year with Gerald Riley and no Mike Sweetney. One real upper classman of talent (Riley, who is nowhere near as good as Govan), three promising sophs (Bowman, Cook and Owens) and a floppy-haired freshman guard from a Southern state (Causey).
OK, Causey was pretty low impact, but he was a freshman PG, which is key for this discussion. Players like Courtland Freeman, Ray Reed, Dizdarevic and the Irish-African Assassin, Amadou Kilkenny-Diaw played good minutes but gave little overall. The sophomores and frosh had flashes of brilliance but weren't really net positives. One upperclassman can't carry a team.
This team has more talent than that, if only because Govan > Riley and LeBlanc is better than most frosh. But it's pretty close. If you disagree with me on this, no doubt you are seriously questioning Ewing. If you are roundabouts on my opinion, it's easier to trust the process.
What I see from Coach:
1. I think his offensive system and play calls are fine. It's clear players aren't executing what he wants, but there's enough strong execution and smart plays to make me think that while he might not be the best schemer out there, that he's not incompetent.
2. I think his skill development skills are pretty good. I admit I base this mostly on Govan and Derrickson and even early development of Josh and Mac -- Pickett is the one player who has taken a step back, but I'm going with the averages. No one bats 1.000.
3. I'm uncertain, amazingly about his defensive chops. I expected more.
4. See above for motivation. This team takes more breaks than I'd like.
5. Recruiting-wise, I think he's been very good at talent evaluation. Despite Pickett's struggles offensively, I think everyone he's recruited has looked as good or better than their rankings. he's also closed on some quality recruits but also missed on some others. Not a superstar on conversion, but not terrible. This class will be telling.
All in all, I would put Patrick at a B. Lots of positives, promising, but no home run yet. But I can see that if you have a different feel for our talent, the grade is going to be much lower. I just think we need to get to a place where we have more than one or two players who is reliably above average in more than three out of every four games. Right now, I've got Govan and Leblanc in that bucket.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 22, 2019 17:32:26 GMT -5
Where you are on Ewing is most likely dependent on your assessment of the talent on the team. For me, I think the talent level, especially once you incorporate the age of the players involved, is very low. Similar to last year, and honestly, the last two years may be most similar to the end of the Esherick era, in the one year with Gerald Riley and no Mike Sweetney. One real upper classman of talent (Riley, who is nowhere near as good as Govan), three promising sophs (Bowman, Cook and Owens) and a floppy-haired freshman guard from a Southern state (Causey). OK, Causey was pretty low impact, but he was a freshman PG, which is key for this discussion. Players like Courtland Freeman, Ray Reed, Dizdarevic and the Irish-African Assassin, Amadou Kilkenny-Diaw played good minutes but gave little overall. The sophomores and frosh had flashes of brilliance but weren't really net positives. One upperclassman can't carry a team. This team has more talent than that, if only because Govan > Riley and LeBlanc is better than most frosh. But it's pretty close. If you disagree with me on this, no doubt you are seriously questioning Ewing. If you are roundabouts on my opinion, it's easier to trust the process. What I see from Coach: 1. I think his offensive system and play calls are fine. It's clear players aren't executing what he wants, but there's enough strong execution and smart plays to make me think that while he might not be the best schemer out there, that he's not incompetent. 2. I think his skill development skills are pretty good. I admit I base this mostly on Govan and Derrickson and even early development of Josh and Mac -- Pickett is the one player who has taken a step back, but I'm going with the averages. No one bats 1.000. 3. I'm uncertain, amazingly about his defensive chops. I expected more. 4. See above for motivation. This team takes more breaks than I'd like. 5. Recruiting-wise, I think he's been very good at talent evaluation. Despite Pickett's struggles offensively, I think everyone he's recruited has looked as good or better than their rankings. he's also closed on some quality recruits but also missed on some others. Not a superstar on conversion, but not terrible. This class will be telling. All in all, I would put Patrick at a B. Lots of positives, promising, but no home run yet. But I can see that if you have a different feel for our talent, the grade is going to be much lower. I just think we need to get to a place where we have more than one or two players who is reliably above average in more than three out of every four games. Right now, I've got Govan and Leblanc in that bucket. I agree with most of this. I think the following additional caveats bring the grade down some, however. 6. In-game clock management (using timeouts strategically, playing slower/smarter with the lead, etc.). We struggle badly here. Ewing has shown a pattern of not being able to use timeouts to get the correct people back in the game when the situation warrants it OR when we need to stop an opponent's run and break their momentum. We always seem to have multiple timeouts heading into the final minute when one of them could have been used earlier in a big spot. Also, a lot of these blown leads occur because we simply have no concept of milking the shot clock when score/time dictates that we should. I understand he wants the team to maintain an aggressive mentality, but there's a delicate balance between being aggressive and being smart and we're not there. 7. Substitution patterns and minutes distribution. Can you imagine if Esh had benched Bowman for the last 13 minutes of a game and in crunch time told Courtland Freeman to get in there and make something happen? Seems crazy to me too, but essentially that's what Pat did freezing out Leblanc and relying on Trey down the stretch. The fault of Pat's right now is that we're nearly 20 games in and still don't have a defined rotation. Guys have no idea what's expected of them from game to game, and especially for younger players that's a tough thing. Play calls and schemes aside, there's been several games this year where we have not had the right people on the floor at the right time. I get the experimenting earlier in the year, but there is no way the tinkering should still be going on at this point in the season. At this point he should know what he has. Yes, the talent and experience level on this team isn't great. But for Pat to have earned a B, he should've coaxed at least another two wins out of this group at this point in the season. It's not the talent/experience that has prohibited this team from earning those wins, it's been his decision making. I'll leave the assistants for a separate thread when the time comes, but you better believe their grade is worse than Pat's.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Jan 22, 2019 18:37:36 GMT -5
Where you are on Ewing is most likely dependent on your assessment of the talent on the team. For me, I think the talent level, especially once you incorporate the age of the players involved, is very low. Similar to last year, and honestly, the last two years may be most similar to the end of the Esherick era, in the one year with Gerald Riley and no Mike Sweetney. One real upper classman of talent (Riley, who is nowhere near as good as Govan), three promising sophs (Bowman, Cook and Owens) and a floppy-haired freshman guard from a Southern state (Causey). OK, Causey was pretty low impact, but he was a freshman PG, which is key for this discussion. Players like Courtland Freeman, Ray Reed, Dizdarevic and the Irish-African Assassin, Amadou Kilkenny-Diaw played good minutes but gave little overall. The sophomores and frosh had flashes of brilliance but weren't really net positives. One upperclassman can't carry a team. This team has more talent than that, if only because Govan > Riley and LeBlanc is better than most frosh. But it's pretty close. If you disagree with me on this, no doubt you are seriously questioning Ewing. If you are roundabouts on my opinion, it's easier to trust the process. What I see from Coach: 1. I think his offensive system and play calls are fine. It's clear players aren't executing what he wants, but there's enough strong execution and smart plays to make me think that while he might not be the best schemer out there, that he's not incompetent. 2. I think his skill development skills are pretty good. I admit I base this mostly on Govan and Derrickson and even early development of Josh and Mac -- Pickett is the one player who has taken a step back, but I'm going with the averages. No one bats 1.000. 3. I'm uncertain, amazingly about his defensive chops. I expected more. 4. See above for motivation. This team takes more breaks than I'd like. 5. Recruiting-wise, I think he's been very good at talent evaluation. Despite Pickett's struggles offensively, I think everyone he's recruited has looked as good or better than their rankings. he's also closed on some quality recruits but also missed on some others. Not a superstar on conversion, but not terrible. This class will be telling. All in all, I would put Patrick at a B. Lots of positives, promising, but no home run yet. But I can see that if you have a different feel for our talent, the grade is going to be much lower. I just think we need to get to a place where we have more than one or two players who is reliably above average in more than three out of every four games. Right now, I've got Govan and Leblanc in that bucket. I agree with most of this. I think the following additional caveats bring the grade down some, however. 6. In-game clock management (using timeouts strategically, playing slower/smarter with the lead, etc.). We struggle badly here. Ewing has shown a pattern of not being able to use timeouts to get the correct people back in the game when the situation warrants it OR when we need to stop an opponent's run and break their momentum. We always seem to have multiple timeouts heading into the final minute when one of them could have been used earlier in a big spot. Also, a lot of these blown leads occur because we simply have no concept of milking the shot clock when score/time dictates that we should. I understand he wants the team to maintain an aggressive mentality, but there's a delicate balance between being aggressive and being smart and we're not there. 7. Substitution patterns and minutes distribution. Can you imagine if Esh had benched Bowman for the last 13 minutes of a game and in crunch time told Courtland Freeman to get in there and make something happen? Seems crazy to me too, but essentially that's what Pat did freezing out Leblanc and relying on Trey down the stretch. The fault of Pat's right now is that we're nearly 20 games in and still don't have a defined rotation. Guys have no idea what's expected of them from game to game, and especially for younger players that's a tough thing. Play calls and schemes aside, there's been several games this year where we have not had the right people on the floor at the right time. I get the experimenting earlier in the year, but there is no way the tinkering should still be going on at this point in the season. At this point he should know what he has. Yes, the talent and experience level on this team isn't great. But for Pat to have earned a B, he should've coaxed at least another two wins out of this group at this point in the season. It's not the talent/experience that has prohibited this team from earning those wins, it's been his decision making. I'll leave the assistants for a separate thread when the time comes, but you better believe their grade is worse than Pat's. SFHoya I think you are spot on but I have to agree that number 7 has been a major disappointment. At this point in the season Ewing should be ironing out the final kinks in substitution patterns and general player management. I don’t think he’s a wywheee close to that. The lineup choices are often puzzling and don’t match the skill set needed on the floor in certain contexts. I’m hoping this turns around soon, because it’s his biggest weakness as a coach in my opinion.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 22, 2019 18:56:54 GMT -5
My guess is that we were a Jordan Tucker transfer from being at the next level. Swap Tucker for Pickett and we are in business and Pat’s a great coach. We are just a piece or two from winning all of these close games and crushing the cupcakes.
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Post by thedragon on Jan 22, 2019 19:36:00 GMT -5
I trust the Process. And heres why.
The Guards. Akinjo and Mac are your best 2 overall guards by a mile...(Hot Take incoming) in the last 20 years of Gtown guards. And both have elite offensive skillsets for freshmen that are 4 year guys (if they're smart). But they are undersized on the defensive end as a tandem. To allow them to thrive. They have to be able to play up on the ball to create steals and keep shooters off 3 point line. But this allows penetration. Which if directed properly should filter into frontcourt rim protection. Unfortunately we have none. Thus why you're seeing Pat go after rim protectors and rim runner bigs who will sit a year (either redshirt or as a backup) behind Omar. And for those who havent seen him play...Omar is a huge step up defensively from Jessie and nearly as skilled offensively. This team will make a big jump defensively with multiple frontcourt players that can defend. And the guards will keep improving. Sky is the limit for James and Mac.
Recruiting. The next few weeks should be fun. Some quality depth should be added at wing and PF and possibly combo guard if things fall into place. Imagine if Wahad, Shannon and Baugh are you depth instead of Juggy, Trey and Jagan. And hes a transfer, but I cant stress enough DONT SLEEP ON OMAR. The guy is a legit player.
Coaching. Ewing has plenty of room for improvement. Timeout usage. College vs. NBA inbound execution. Guards late game clock management and IQ. 2nd half adjustments. But you can see the offensive organization we havent seen in eons. From the uptempo style to the NBA halfcourt sets. And you can see a roster being molded. Two 4 year guards that could rewrite Gtown record books in certain statistics. A bouncy energy 4 man who is an upper body and consistent jumpshot away from being a 1st round draft pick. 2 high upside bigs who do the 3 things Pat's style needs. Rebound. Run the floor. Block shots. And in the mix for a D stopper combo guard, an athletic wing scorer and a blowing up 4 star PF. If we hit on 2 of the 3 or all 3, then next year starts to become real fun. Pat's been riddled with a first year class thrown together for obvious time restraint reasons and a bench of jt3 remnants who are good kids and hard workers, but outmatched at this level.
We are 1.5 years into what many on here have been saying since day 1...a 3 year rebuild to relevance. That's how far we had/have fallen. But I see much to be excited about. Moreso than in a long long time around these parts. Use this season to teach, develop, and condition the freshmen. Close out this class strong as were in good position with several key targets. And then use year 3 to step up both schedule wise (which is happening) and results wise to real in that big fish or 2 for the future. Better times are coming. And fairly soon. I just hope the fanbase sticks around for it.
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Post by gujake on Jan 22, 2019 19:45:25 GMT -5
I think it's fair to argue the talent level isn't high enough for this team to compete at a top level. But that only works as an argument on an absolute basis. What about relative to last year? Are we improving? To me, that's the big red flag. We are actually WORSE than last year so far (#101 vs #94).
I don't think there's any question the talent level is better than last year. Derrickson is a loss, yes, but he wasn't more valuable than Akinjo, Leblanc, McClung, and Malinowski combined, let alone the additional year of experience for everyone else. Maaaayybe you can stretch and say it's close. But there's no way it's worse. And yet, we are performing a little worse.
Great coaches don't always catapult their teams into far higher levels immediately, but they almost always start making incremental improvements. There are some exceptions, but not many. The season isn't over yet, so maybe a light comes on. But if we end the season no better than last year, that will be a very bad sign.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 22, 2019 22:06:42 GMT -5
Where you are on Ewing is most likely dependent on your assessment of the talent on the team. For me, I think the talent level, especially once you incorporate the age of the players involved, is very low. Similar to last year, and honestly, the last two years may be most similar to the end of the Esherick era, in the one year with Gerald Riley and no Mike Sweetney. One real upper classman of talent (Riley, who is nowhere near as good as Govan), three promising sophs (Bowman, Cook and Owens) and a floppy-haired freshman guard from a Southern state (Causey). OK, Causey was pretty low impact, but he was a freshman PG, which is key for this discussion. Players like Courtland Freeman, Ray Reed, Dizdarevic and the Irish-African Assassin, Amadou Kilkenny-Diaw played good minutes but gave little overall. The sophomores and frosh had flashes of brilliance but weren't really net positives. One upperclassman can't carry a team. This team has more talent than that, if only because Govan > Riley and LeBlanc is better than most frosh. But it's pretty close. If you disagree with me on this, no doubt you are seriously questioning Ewing. If you are roundabouts on my opinion, it's easier to trust the process. What I see from Coach: 1. I think his offensive system and play calls are fine. It's clear players aren't executing what he wants, but there's enough strong execution and smart plays to make me think that while he might not be the best schemer out there, that he's not incompetent. 2. I think his skill development skills are pretty good. I admit I base this mostly on Govan and Derrickson and even early development of Josh and Mac -- Pickett is the one player who has taken a step back, but I'm going with the averages. No one bats 1.000.3. I'm uncertain, amazingly about his defensive chops. I expected more. 4. See above for motivation. This team takes more breaks than I'd like. 5. Recruiting-wise, I think he's been very good at talent evaluation. Despite Pickett's struggles offensively, I think everyone he's recruited has looked as good or better than their rankings. he's also closed on some quality recruits but also missed on some others. Not a superstar on conversion, but not terrible. This class will be telling. All in all, I would put Patrick at a B. Lots of positives, promising, but no home run yet. But I can see that if you have a different feel for our talent, the grade is going to be much lower. I just think we need to get to a place where we have more than one or two players who is reliably above average in more than three out of every four games. Right now, I've got Govan and Leblanc in that bucket. Seems to me you're being pretty liberal here. Pickett has taken a step back but what about the players like Jagan, Kaleb & Blair who've basically stagnated? To me, this is as much on Orr, Kirby & Waheed, all of whom have much more experience working with college players than PE...
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 22, 2019 22:11:52 GMT -5
I hate to do this....but prepare for transfers this off season from one or more of the current underclassman. I can't get into it, but all is not well. Winning will turn things around...but we should be concerned if the season stays on the current trajectory.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Jan 22, 2019 22:38:28 GMT -5
I hate to do this....but prepare for transfers this off season from one or more of the current underclassman. I can't get into it, but all is not well. Winning will turn things around...but we should be concerned if the season stays on the current trajectory. It really can't be a surprise can it? This is the world we live in.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 22, 2019 22:55:33 GMT -5
Kids transfer these days at the drop of a hat. We will win some games, but we were projected to finish at or near the bottom.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 22, 2019 22:56:45 GMT -5
Why transfer? There will be plenty of opportunity to play next season.
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Jan 22, 2019 22:58:58 GMT -5
Most kids transfer because of playing time. Not sure who you are feeling will do so. Let’s wait until the end of BET before we get into hand wringing about this.
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Post by vv83 on Jan 22, 2019 23:57:55 GMT -5
I love Ewing. I attended Georgetown during the glory years of the program, when they went to 3 final games in 4 years. Heck, I even played IM softball with Eddie Spriggs and Eric Smith for 3 years! 40 years of rooting passionately for this team, with Ewing and Big John as the central foundation of my fan experience. But it is getting really hard to "trust the process". Part of it is that outside of my family/friends, the only two things I really care passionately about are Hoya basketball and NY Giant football. Out of the last 9 seasons these 2 teams have played, there has been one season (Giants in 2016) in which my team played a really meaningful game after the first month or so of their season. Way, way too many utterly meaningless games and late game, embarrassing losses. The Hoya/Giant combo have really taken a toll on my ability to work up anything beyond a smattering of half-hearted optimism for either team.
I really, really want to trust Ewing's process. But right now, it is tough to see the light at the end of the tunnel. The best I can work up tonight is hoping that I am deeply biased by the emotionally damaging experience of rooting for these two teams for the past half decade, and that we are just some player development and a couple of solid 2019 late recruits from returning to relevance within the next season or two.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jan 23, 2019 7:03:18 GMT -5
I hate to do this....but prepare for transfers this off season from one or more of the current underclassman. I can't get into it, but all is not well. Winning will turn things around...but we should be concerned if the season stays on the current trajectory. It really can't be a surprise can it? This is the world we live in. It would not surprise me. And not because it’s commonplace today. Observing on-court behavior, timeout behavior, and multiple disciplinary benchings and DNPs are all indicators to me that “all is not well.” I’m personally fearful of the off-season news and anticipate some disappointing early departures. At the end of the day, Ewing will be judged not just on his ability to recruit elite talent, but also on his ability to retain talent and promote a harmonious team environment and positive, winning culture. Winning close games certainly helps with all of the above.
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Post by calhoya on Jan 23, 2019 7:50:24 GMT -5
I hate to do this....but prepare for transfers this off season from one or more of the current underclassman. I can't get into it, but all is not well. Winning will turn things around...but we should be concerned if the season stays on the current trajectory. While this would not be a surprise by any means, it is difficult to imagine how the Hoyas could recover from any more personnel losses, particularly underclassmen. Already had 5 spots for next season open and only 2 filled, with bigs who are considered projects. It appears that the team has limited options for filling the other 3 spots. Been a disappointing year so far with not enough signs of progress in terms of the team or the coach. Yes the offense is more enjoyable, but the defense remains non-existent and the coach has been inconsistent in both his use of rotations and game management. Let's hope for a turnaround in the next few weeks. Still see the potential for these kids, but it has to start to translate into results, particularly against teams that are not any better.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 23, 2019 8:14:59 GMT -5
We were projected to finish at or near the bottom of the conference, therefore, we may just meet expectations. The last coach didn’t leave us with much and the current freshman are Pat’s true first class. It’s going to take time. I would hate to see any key pieces for our future leave. There will be plenty of playing time to go around next year.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 23, 2019 8:33:48 GMT -5
We are talking about Patrick Ewing and Georgetown. He is the essential ahletic icon at a University which moves glacially as regards personnel.
So is there really any alternative but to trust the process?
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Post by This Just In on Jan 23, 2019 8:43:08 GMT -5
I hate to do this....but prepare for transfers this off season from one or more of the current underclassman. I can't get into it, but all is not well. Winning will turn things around...but we should be concerned if the season stays on the current trajectory. People can tell who you are referring to by looking at which players are coming off the bench and are not getting much playing time. I am still waiting for McClung and Mourning to get back to full strength as this will this will turn around the season.
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