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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 4, 2019 9:36:07 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Butler is ranked 42 on KenPom and St. John's is 40. I do think St. John's is a tougher matchup for us, and it'll be a tougher game (though we are home, which helps), but I do think some here are overselling St. John's based on the hype versus anything they've done on the court. No doubt, the win over Marquette is a good one. But, St. John's played one of the worst OOC schedules in the country (343 of 353), and until they beat Marquette, their best win was #67 VCU. All that said, St. John's is 40 and we are 93. So, thus far, they've played much better than us, and I think Ponds is going to be giving us fits. I just don't think a win on Saturday - while it would be great and I would be ecstatic - is necessarily a signature win. It's really too early to say that, but no doubt it'd be a very good win for this squad. And they should’ve lost that VCU game as ponds blatantly fouled the VCU player on their attempt at a game winner?
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 4, 2019 9:44:26 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Butler is ranked 42 on KenPom and St. John's is 40. I do think St. John's is a tougher matchup for us, and it'll be a tougher game (though we are home, which helps), but I do think some here are overselling St. John's based on the hype versus anything they've done on the court. No doubt, the win over Marquette is a good one. But, St. John's played one of the worst OOC schedules in the country (343 of 353), and until they beat Marquette, their best win was #67 VCU. All that said, St. John's is 40 and we are 93. So, thus far, they've played much better than us, and I think Ponds is going to be giving us fits. I just don't think a win on Saturday - while it would be great and I would be ecstatic - is necessarily a signature win. It's really too early to say that, but no doubt it'd be a very good win for this squad. And they should’ve lost that VCU game as ponds blatantly fouled the VCU player on their attempt at a game winner? Call it even then after getting jobbed by the refs at SHU.
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 4, 2019 10:17:48 GMT -5
The St John's game will be really interesting to see what type of lineups Coach Ewing uses. There are a lot of match up issues for Georgetown to figure out. While St John's has no one that can defend Jessie if he gets the ball in the post, the Hoyas will have a similar issue when St John's is on offense if the Hoyas want to play a lot of man defense. That lineup that St Johns plays most of the time will be a problem if Jessie needs to try to cover one of those guys on the perimeter.
While you don't want to give up your biggest offensive advantage by pulling Jessie, you also don't want to expose him to trying to cover quicker players. If the Hoyas play man defense you just know that St Johns is going to run a ton of pick and roll with Ponds and whoever Jessie is covering to try to get Jessie exposed on the perimeter trying to slow down Ponds. Georgetown may play more zone than normal or may have to go to a smaller/quicker lineup for parts of the game. While both teams like to play fast, it really is a contrast of styles when they have to play in the half court. Should be really interesting.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jan 4, 2019 10:23:11 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 4, 2019 10:23:49 GMT -5
Nice. Who needs Musberger?
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Post by bearsandbulls on Jan 4, 2019 10:34:39 GMT -5
The Johnnies are good but not unbeatable. They beat my Bears in November at home by three, and we have to be one of the worst teams in college BB right now.
They are on the road. Unfortunately, as noted above, no students, or very few.
I loved the way we played vs. Butler and whatever happens Saturday, will relish that win on the road and the way the team is improving by the game.
Go Hoyas
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Post by drquigley on Jan 4, 2019 11:05:09 GMT -5
The St John's game will be really interesting to see what type of lineups Coach Ewing uses. There are a lot of match up issues for Georgetown to figure out. While St John's has no one that can defend Jessie if he gets the ball in the post, the Hoyas will have a similar issue when St John's is on offense if the Hoyas want to play a lot of man defense. That lineup that St Johns plays most of the time will be a problem if Jessie needs to try to cover one of those guys on the perimeter. While you don't want to give up your biggest offensive advantage by pulling Jessie, you also don't want to expose him to trying to cover quicker players. If the Hoyas play man defense you just know that St Johns is going to run a ton of pick and roll with Ponds and whoever Jessie is covering to try to get Jessie exposed on the perimeter trying to slow down Ponds. Georgetown may play more zone than normal or may have to go to a smaller/quicker lineup for parts of the game. While both teams like to play fast, it really is a contrast of styles when they have to play in the half court. Should be really interesting. Absolutely agree. As much as I dislike Mosley's offense I think he will have to get a lot of playing time guarding Ponds. Mosley is bigger and stronger and if nothing else might be able to pound on him and tire Ponds out. Maybe draw a few charging fouls. And yes we will probably have to play some Zone defense.
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Post by MassHoya on Jan 4, 2019 11:19:03 GMT -5
National TV game... It's a chance for the Hoyas to show some people they are back. New offense, different attitude.
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Post by hoyainla on Jan 4, 2019 11:20:13 GMT -5
We need to take smart shots and balance the floor. We need to do that every game but moreso this game. We can't give St. John's easy transition buckets. If we can get them into a half court game while we continue running our offense like the last 2 games it's a huge advantage to us. Pat will really need to reign James in for this game because if he tries to do too much vs their guards it will be worse than normal.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 4, 2019 11:37:42 GMT -5
The St John's game will be really interesting to see what type of lineups Coach Ewing uses. There are a lot of match up issues for Georgetown to figure out. While St John's has no one that can defend Jessie if he gets the ball in the post, the Hoyas will have a similar issue when St John's is on offense if the Hoyas want to play a lot of man defense. That lineup that St Johns plays most of the time will be a problem if Jessie needs to try to cover one of those guys on the perimeter. While you don't want to give up your biggest offensive advantage by pulling Jessie, you also don't want to expose him to trying to cover quicker players. I f the Hoyas play man defense you just know that St Johns is going to run a ton of pick and roll with Ponds and whoever Jessie is covering to try to get Jessie exposed on the perimeter trying to slow down Ponds. Georgetown may play more zone than normal or may have to go to a smaller/quicker lineup for parts of the game. While both teams like to play fast, it really is a contrast of styles when they have to play in the half court. Should be really interesting. The games I've watched they're much more space, attack & kick type of offense than a lot of high screens in the half court.. It still can be a problem for Jessie seeing that Clark has been on fire from 3 lately, I'd layoff Simon as much as possible to give help to Jessie when Clark tries to put it on the floor... Where Gtown really has to be on it's toes is transition defense, St. John's shoots a lot of 3's in both initial & 2dnary break situations... I posted in the Butler thread that St. John's & Creighton were the two teams I'm not confident in the matchup with Gtown, having said that I think Gtown can easily play with both teams...
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 4, 2019 11:39:58 GMT -5
We need to take smart shots and balance the floor. We need to do that every game but moreso this game. We can't give St. John's easy transition buckets. If we can get them into a half court game while we continue running our offense like the last 2 games it's a huge advantage to us. Pat will really need to reign James in for this game because if he tries to do too much vs their guards it will be worse than normal. I agree here, can't get into a duel with Ponds... He could end up winning the battle but losing the war...
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Post by McBricks on Jan 4, 2019 11:45:53 GMT -5
I worry about the crowd. It seems like the team gets up when there’s a decent sized crowd. Any chance we get 10K tomorrow?
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jan 4, 2019 12:05:38 GMT -5
I think we should temper expectations as relates to the crowd. GU is still on break, so there will be no student section. We might still have a good non-student crowd, but the atmosphere would be better with a student section. While it won't be the same noise/atmosphere of a full student section (as you mentioned), the student section(s) were nearly full during the Howard game for the "student for a day" promotion. 7,519 was the listed attendance, so hopefully there will at least be bodies in the seats throughout the lower bowl tomorrow.
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Jan 4, 2019 12:05:54 GMT -5
We need to take smart shots and balance the floor. We need to do that every game but moreso this game. We can't give St. John's easy transition buckets. If we can get them into a half court game while we continue running our offense like the last 2 games it's a huge advantage to us. Pat will really need to reign James in for this game because if he tries to do too much vs their guards it will be worse than normal. I agree here, can't get into a duel with Ponds... He could end up winning the battle but losing the war... Or losing the battle and the war. As much as we like our freshman guards, let's not fool ourselves in thinking they match up with Ponds at a skill level right now in their career. We need to make him uncomfortable through our defense and play under control on offense to limit their transition opportunities.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 12:08:17 GMT -5
What game this year did James go into a 1v1 battle against the opposing pg?
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 4, 2019 12:23:48 GMT -5
What game this year did James go into a 1v1 battle against the opposing pg? I would say the answer is none but I'm not sure that's the right question to ask... If the question is how many games has James tried to do too much in this year what would the answer be? Also, he hasn't faced any guard near the caliber of Ponds(who talks a lot also) this season plus we all know how competitive Akinjo is...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 4, 2019 12:26:59 GMT -5
Don’t let him/her bait you. He’s got nothing positive to say about coach or Mac. Win or lose, the same negative shtick. Now it’s Akinjo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 12:37:54 GMT -5
What game this year did James go into a 1v1 battle against the opposing pg? I would say the answer is none but I'm not sure that's the right question to ask... If the question is how many games has James tried to do too much in this year what would the answer be? Also, he hasn't faced any guard near the caliber of Ponds(who talks a lot also) this season plus we all know how competitive Akinjo is... Doing too much and getting into a personal battle with the opposing pg aren't necessarily the same thing though. One is mostly driven by ego, and the other mostly driven by a desire to win. Ponds is a Junior and every game he plays there are instances where he is trying to do too much. He's good enough to make some of them, but he takes at least a few ill advised shots every game. You work with kids like that to minimize it imo, but It's the nature of the beast. It's part of why they are who they are.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 4, 2019 12:47:48 GMT -5
I would say the answer is none but I'm not sure that's the right question to ask... If the question is how many games has James tried to do too much in this year what would the answer be? Also, he hasn't faced any guard near the caliber of Ponds(who talks a lot also) this season plus we all know how competitive Akinjo is... Doing too much and getting into a personal battle with the opposing pg aren't necessarily the same thing though. One is mostly driven by ego, and the other mostly driven by a desire to win. Ponds is a Junior and every game he plays there are instances where he is trying to do too much. He's good enough to make some of them, but he takes at least a few ill advised shots every game. You work with kids like that to minimize it imo, but It's the nature of the beast. It's part of why they are who they are. I agree with this take... You have to admit that sometimes players do too much because they want to show what they can do also... In the end, it's a balancing act...
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Post by hoyainla on Jan 4, 2019 13:08:17 GMT -5
I would say the answer is none but I'm not sure that's the right question to ask... If the question is how many games has James tried to do too much in this year what would the answer be? Also, he hasn't faced any guard near the caliber of Ponds(who talks a lot also) this season plus we all know how competitive Akinjo is... Doing too much and getting into a personal battle with the opposing pg aren't necessarily the same thing though. One is mostly driven by ego, and the other mostly driven by a desire to win. Ponds is a Junior and every game he plays there are instances where he is trying to do too much. He's good enough to make some of them, but he takes at least a few ill advised shots every game. You work with kids like that to minimize it imo, but It's the nature of the beast. It's part of why they are who they are. This is correct which I said Pat has to reign him in this game more so than others. He will undoubtedly go at them 1 v 1 a few times in the game and that is fine if it keeps him engaged. If he does it repeatedly he has to sit. That to me means minimize it. He had been getting a little better but last game he regressed a little bit. He has an incredible competitive spirit and this game will likely bring that out of him more than most this year. If he tries to do too much this game it will hurt us more because of the quality of their guards and the likely flow of the game. You beat St. John's the same way you beat us for most of the season before the last 2 games. Slow us down on O and make us work on D. If we play that reckless 1v1 style which is essentially how St. John's plays we likely lose because right now their players are better than ours.
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