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Post by Loyal Hoya on Nov 25, 2018 13:20:33 GMT -5
Was it an ncaa decision, mutual agreement if teams, or a Georgetown decision to move the game to Cooper?
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Post by Elvado on Nov 25, 2018 13:57:12 GMT -5
It was probably the right decision but Cooper is our Kryptonite.
Down 1-0 at half off a screamer with 1 minute to go.
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Post by whatmaroon on Nov 25, 2018 14:53:22 GMT -5
1-0 final. Another season-ending home loss. Another loss on Cooper. Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh yuck.
Thanks for the memories, seniors.
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Post by Elvado on Nov 25, 2018 14:55:25 GMT -5
1-0 final. Another season-ending home loss. Another loss on Cooper. Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh yuck. Thanks for the memories, seniors. So sad for these guys. They are a great bunch of kids who play beautiful soccer. Coach has built a top flight program and it should continue. On a personal note, the level of friendship and love these boys show Harry is priceless
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 25, 2018 15:10:36 GMT -5
Another Big East title makes it a good season. Future looks pretty bright for the program - and for the seniors, whether on the pitch somewhere, or in their other careers.
Hoya Saxa men!
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 25, 2018 17:38:28 GMT -5
1-0 final. Another season-ending home loss. Another loss on Cooper. Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh yuck. (At least) three things I can see as Cooper Field being a problem...now, and going forward (i.e. whenever Shaw Field is served up for the next construction project): 1. It's a narrower field. 2. Wind conditions are different. 3. There is no crown on the field.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Nov 25, 2018 17:58:16 GMT -5
Honest to God, I will personally re-sod Shaw Field by hand if it means avoiding another game on Cooper Field. It's as if the markings from the other sports scramble the team's brainwaves, especially when it comes to offense. There's just too much offensive talent on this squad to get shut out at home, narrow, fast turf playing surface or not.
Credit to Sparty, their B1G-to-a-T squad of athletic ruffians, and their well-represented, slightly kooky fans. That's now two games in a row where they've gone on the road and taken a more talented team out of their game. Louisville tried to grind them into dust and found themselves rope-a-doped. Georgetown tried to...well, I'm not entirely sure I can pin down what the heck we were trying to do offensively, but there were certainly runs and chances and looks and opportunities. And pretty much all of them were frustrated, to the point that passing the ball around in the back over and over again in hopes of finding some crack looked like the best option available far too often.
As others have said, though, any fair assessment of this season has to deem it a success. The hardware speaks for itself, obviously, but the individual development and accolades are also worth noting. A program capable of attracting top talent is one in which players can showcase their skills on a highly visible stage (by college soccer standards), improve in all facets of the game, and be put in positions that push them to rise to the occasion against other premier players. This year saw progress on all fronts, and the expectation has been cemented that there are no more periods of rebuilding - only reloading.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Nov 25, 2018 18:28:01 GMT -5
1-0 final. Another season-ending home loss. Another loss on Cooper. Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh yuck. (At least) three things I can see as Cooper Field being a problem...now, and going forward (i.e. whenever Shaw Field is served up for the next construction project): 1. It's a narrower field. 2. Wind conditions are different. 3. There is no crown on the field. The narrowness may be eliminated - the plan, as I understand it, is to have no visitor-side seating. If you go all the way up to the fenceline as much as possible, you should be able to get a 75-yard width out of it. Wind conditions will be different, no question, but they should be calmer than at the higher elevation of Shaw today. And no helicopter backwash! Regardless, it's something that can be adapted to, and I don't think it really conflicts with our chosen style of play. The crown thing is a real concern, though... Given how quickly the MSF turf wears out from extensive use, I'm guessing that the next scheduled replacement will precede or coincide with any movement on New Yates. So there would be a window in which to make some design choices, including the incorporation of a slope that meets soccer, football, and lacrosse requirements.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 25, 2018 18:53:42 GMT -5
Honest to God, I will personally re-sod Shaw Field by hand if it means avoiding another game on Cooper Field. It's as if the markings from the other sports scramble the team's brainwaves, especially when it comes to offense. There's just too much offensive talent on this squad to get shut out at home, narrow, fast turf playing surface or not. Credit to Sparty, their B1G-to-a-T squad of athletic ruffians, and their well-represented, slightly kooky fans. That's now two games in a row where they've gone on the road and taken a more talented team out of their game. Louisville tried to grind them into dust and found themselves rope-a-doped. Georgetown tried to...well, I'm not entirely sure I can pin down what the heck we were trying to do offensively, but there were certainly runs and chances and looks and opportunities. And pretty much all of them were frustrated, to the point that passing the ball around in the back over and over again in hopes of finding some crack looked like the best option available far too often. As others have said, though, any fair assessment of this season has to deem it a success. The hardware speaks for itself, obviously, but the individual development and accolades are also worth noting. A program capable of attracting top talent is one in which players can showcase their skills on a highly visible stage (by college soccer standards), improve in all facets of the game, and be put in positions that push them to rise to the occasion against other premier players. This year saw progress on all fronts, and the expectation has been cemented that there are no more periods of rebuilding - only reloading. Absolutely a successful season. It's hard to really ever call a trip to the Sweet 16 anything but that, though I know we've had some tough defeats as highly seeded teams at home in that round. In any event, the programmatic consistency and achievement is exceptional. From 2012-2018, only Notre Dame (with 6) have been in the S16 more often than the Hoyas. We have been there 5 times. The only other schools with that many are UNC, Stanford, Indiana, and Wake. Those are the bluest of blue bloods. We are on any knowledgeable person's list of truly elite programs.
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Post by Elvado on Nov 25, 2018 19:52:51 GMT -5
Honest to God, I will personally re-sod Shaw Field by hand if it means avoiding another game on Cooper Field. It's as if the markings from the other sports scramble the team's brainwaves, especially when it comes to offense. There's just too much offensive talent on this squad to get shut out at home, narrow, fast turf playing surface or not. Credit to Sparty, their B1G-to-a-T squad of athletic ruffians, and their well-represented, slightly kooky fans. That's now two games in a row where they've gone on the road and taken a more talented team out of their game. Louisville tried to grind them into dust and found themselves rope-a-doped. Georgetown tried to...well, I'm not entirely sure I can pin down what the heck we were trying to do offensively, but there were certainly runs and chances and looks and opportunities. And pretty much all of them were frustrated, to the point that passing the ball around in the back over and over again in hopes of finding some crack looked like the best option available far too often. As others have said, though, any fair assessment of this season has to deem it a success. The hardware speaks for itself, obviously, but the individual development and accolades are also worth noting. A program capable of attracting top talent is one in which players can showcase their skills on a highly visible stage (by college soccer standards), improve in all facets of the game, and be put in positions that push them to rise to the occasion against other premier players. This year saw progress on all fronts, and the expectation has been cemented that there are no more periods of rebuilding - only reloading. Absolutely a successful season. It's hard to really ever call a trip to the Sweet 16 anything but that, though I know we've had some tough defeats as highly seeded teams at home in that round. In any event, the programmatic consistency and achievement is exceptional. From 2012-2018, only Notre Dame (with 6) have been in the S16 more often than the Hoyas. We have been there 5 times. The only other schools with that many are UNC, Stanford, Indiana, and Wake. Those are the bluest of blue bloods. We are on any knowledgeable person's list of truly elite programs. Could not agree more. The level at which this program consistently performs is tremendous. I hope the administration realizes what an absolute treasure it has in Coach Wiese. Georgetown is a soccer power now.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 25, 2018 20:51:20 GMT -5
The crown thing is a real concern, though... Given how quickly the MSF turf wears out from extensive use, I'm guessing that the next scheduled replacement will precede or coincide with any movement on New Yates. So there would be a window in which to make some design choices, including the incorporation of a slope that meets soccer, football, and lacrosse requirements. Not sure about the crown at Shaw, but MSF/Cooper is flat. The use of a crown can be a big advantage to a home team. Back in its heyday, the crown at Texas Stadium was a sizeable two feet slope from midfield down to the sideline. Opposing QB's who didn't adjust their routes would send passes way over the head of the receivers, and the same held true in soccer, which used to host Dallas Tornado games back in the NASL. The window to make design choices is probably out at this point. Most turf products are designed to last 8-10 years and Georgetown is on its second turf in 13 years and is within a year or two on getting a third. I don't think GU has the architectural nor financial will to re-plumb the field when you're running up to six different sports on it. That would be a not so insignificant effort that could impact the (even more) delayed construction project there. Has anything heard a reliable timeline on the Yates demo/new rec center? I had read how the Board of Directors approved another round of patching on the Kehoe turf, which assumes a longer life for the building below, but as of last month it was as torn up as ever. 2018 Hoyas finish 7-1-2 at Shaw, 0-3 at Cooper.
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 26, 2018 9:51:29 GMT -5
To be fair, 2 of their 3 games at Cooper were against very, very good teams. I think the BE was pretty meh this year. It takes nothing away from this team, but it puts in perspective that I dont think this was a Cooper Field issue. From my vantage in the crowd, MSU was very difficult to break down. After they scored, I had a feeling it was over.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 26, 2018 11:25:49 GMT -5
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 26, 2018 13:31:56 GMT -5
Homefield disadvantage ☹️👎🏻
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Post by RusskyHoya on Nov 26, 2018 22:53:48 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Nov 27, 2018 5:35:13 GMT -5
There is little doubt that the boys have had buzzard’s luck in the tournament since the run to the 2012 final.
What is also abundantly clear is that this program is among the nation’s elite.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 23, 2019 0:08:03 GMT -5
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Jan 25, 2019 14:06:23 GMT -5
Wondering if Dan meant to post that Gregg Berhalter included our own Keegan Rosenberry among the 23 selected for our USMNT's upcoming friendlies v. Panama and Costa Rica.
Let's hope he gets to show everyone what we already know about him in one or both of these matches! Good luck Keegan!
You mean this?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 27, 2019 18:27:36 GMT -5
What a great recognition for Keegan. Hope to see him get some run in these games.
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