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Post by bornhoya on Apr 14, 2018 14:42:38 GMT -5
Hope he stays and truly develop into a lottery pick. I am a little bit upset with Marcus; he would have been a lottery pick if he had stayed his senior year. I can't say that I blame Govan for testing the waters. Not sure Doc has the athleticism to be a lottery pick, or even a first rounder. Might improve his draft stock if he could show more on the defensive end. I think if he would have stayed been a solid second rounder who could have played hisself into maybe back of the first
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Apr 14, 2018 21:13:42 GMT -5
Glide had tweeted about a week ago that he was blocked from Hoyatalk. Pretty sure this explains the quiet from Glide on this board. This has to be tough on him, but clearly he was given a lot of latitude by the mods. I tried to warn about what happened to Eagle54. Did glidehoyas mention for how long or why he was blocked? Not really. But he did say he was blocked by racist HT and for being right. I was once a moderator of a listserv. I would have blocked him long ago. I think the mods have been extremely patient. It’s a shame because his passion for the Hoyas is so evident, but he really has behaved in a self-destructive way. .
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Post by tashoya on Apr 14, 2018 21:38:51 GMT -5
I tried to warn about what happened to Eagle54. Did glidehoyas mention for how long or why he was blocked? But he did say he was blocked by racist HT and for being right. I could have guessed that part. Ironic considering a lot of times that he thinks he's right, he's called someone (or everyone) a racist for disagreeing with him. His fandom is admirable. His attitude towards and treatment of others some of the time is not.
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Post by tashoya on Apr 14, 2018 21:42:33 GMT -5
For those interested, below are the relevant dates with regard to the draft from nba.com:
April 11-14 Portsmouth Invitational Tournament (Portsmouth, VA)
April 22 NBA Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET)
May 15 NBA Draft Lottery (Chicago)
May 16-20 NBA Draft Combine 2018 (Chicago)
June 11 NBA Draft Early Entry Entrant Withdrawal Deadline (5 p.m. ET)
June 21 NBA Draft 2018
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 14, 2018 22:26:33 GMT -5
Whoa. Did they extend the time for withdrawal? I recall how the window was shortened to help the college coaches know how many available schollies they were working with in the late recruiting period. June 11th doesn't help them on that front at all.
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Post by tashoya on Apr 14, 2018 22:43:20 GMT -5
Whoa. Did they extend the time for withdrawal? I recall how the window was shortened to help the college coaches know how many available schollies they were working with in the late recruiting period. June 11th doesn't help them on that front at all. I don't know. That was my reaction too. My recollection was 10 days after the combine.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Apr 15, 2018 10:49:16 GMT -5
So how does the timeline work in regards to an agent?
So as far as we know he has not officially hired an agent, correct?
Is there an offical date if he is going to hire one that he has to do so?
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Post by bicentennial on Apr 15, 2018 11:47:54 GMT -5
Yes,
The deadline was moved back. Previously the deadline was even before the combine which meant all underclassmen declaring for the draft could do was go for workouts with clubs but even if good enough for an invite they would not be able to go to the combine without giving up their eligibility. 2 years ago that deadline was moved back to give the players more options to explore their competitiveness for the NBA/G-League/overseas. Last year when LJ Peak left this was not an issue as there was little doubt in anyone's mind that he was gone since the coaching change and the feeling that this season would be abysmal. I have been looking to see if there was an announcement by Derrickson or an agency that he was represented. Often times if it is not condoned by GU the agent a player goes to is the one linked to their AAU squad! I wonder if any of the recruiting gurus know the agent linked to Derrickson's AAU squad!
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 15, 2018 12:31:10 GMT -5
Hope he stays and truly develop into a lottery pick. I am a little bit upset with Marcus; he would have been a lottery pick if he had stayed his senior year. I can't say that I blame Govan for testing the waters. Lottery pick? Smh.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 15, 2018 14:14:16 GMT -5
So how does the timeline work in regards to an agent? So as far as we know he has not officially hired an agent, correct? Is there an offical date if he is going to hire one that he has to do so? I don't believe there would be any requirements to hire an agent - a player could get drafted without an agent, although unlikely. The players can withdraw their names right up until May 30 now, after going through the combine and even individual team workouts.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Apr 16, 2018 5:25:40 GMT -5
It would be a miracle if Derrickson is picked at all. Best wishes to him as he needs to chart the best course for himself.
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Post by 72hoya on Apr 16, 2018 9:39:25 GMT -5
The kid should not hire an agent. Do the draft review stuff and find out you aren’t getting drafted and why. The reality is he is not getting drafted this year but could sneak in next year. The need in the NBA for a 6 foot 7 inch stretch 4 who has poor lateral movement and below average hops is nonexistent. He would not be an offensive threat and would be a defensive liability. The players in that league are big, fast, athletic and skilled. Marcus is skilled but deficient in the other areas. So if he stays a pro he gets to play somewhere in Europe as he really won’t be an ideal G league guy. Or he could finish school and have the same fate next year. Harsh but true. A very good college player but that maybe it.
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Post by mapei on Apr 16, 2018 10:13:58 GMT -5
If Marcus has stopped going to class, effectively dropping out of school, would he even be eligible to come back to the team for the fall semester?
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Post by seaweed on Apr 16, 2018 10:14:30 GMT -5
It would be a miracle if Derrickson is picked at all. Best wishes to him as he needs to chart the best course for himself. Way to show our kids the love.
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Post by saxagael on Apr 16, 2018 10:22:11 GMT -5
It would be a miracle if Derrickson is picked at all. Best wishes to him as he needs to chart the best course for himself. I could see Derrickson picked up after the draft, but this is a tough draft for him to come out. I wish him the best. I hope all is well with him and his family.
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Post by saxagael on Apr 16, 2018 10:23:41 GMT -5
If Marcus has stopped going to class, effectively dropping out of school, would he even be eligible to come back to the team for the fall semester? That would be tough, but not impossible. Can anyone remember what DSR did? I half recollect he took Spring off when he was testing the draft waters.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 16, 2018 11:35:03 GMT -5
It would be a miracle if Derrickson is picked at all. Best wishes to him as he needs to chart the best course for himself. Way to show our kids the love. I think it's a realistic assessment to acknowledge that Derrickson will not be drafted, while also wishing the best for him. There is absolutely no indication that he could be drafted. But, he's still a Hoya, and I hope for the best for him.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 16, 2018 15:50:21 GMT -5
The kid should not hire an agent. Do the draft review stuff and find out you aren’t getting drafted and why. The reality is he is not getting drafted this year but could sneak in next year. The need in the NBA for a 6 foot 7 inch stretch 4 who has poor lateral movement and below average hops is nonexistent. He would not be an offensive threat and would be a defensive liability. The players in that league are big, fast, athletic and skilled. Marcus is skilled but deficient in the other areas. So if he stays a pro he gets to play somewhere in Europe as he really won’t be an ideal G league guy. Or he could finish school and have the same fate next year. Harsh but true. A very good college player but that maybe it. Main reason to higher an agent is so the agent can give you money now to buy fancy suits and glasses and stuff. As far as not getting drafted by the NBA that's not a big deal. If he's willing to go over to China like Benimon did he can make multiple six figures.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 16, 2018 15:53:31 GMT -5
If Marcus has stopped going to class, effectively dropping out of school, would he even be eligible to come back to the team for the fall semester? Dunno probably not. Didn't Summer do the same thing. There is the possibility that he was failing out of his classes before the decision really had no choice but to leave and hire an agent. We've had a couple guys like Joshua Smith and Greg Whittington who had trouble with the higher academics at Georgetown.
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Post by iowa80 on Apr 16, 2018 16:09:37 GMT -5
The kid should not hire an agent. Do the draft review stuff and find out you aren’t getting drafted and why. The reality is he is not getting drafted this year but could sneak in next year. The need in the NBA for a 6 foot 7 inch stretch 4 who has poor lateral movement and below average hops is nonexistent. He would not be an offensive threat and would be a defensive liability. The players in that league are big, fast, athletic and skilled. Marcus is skilled but deficient in the other areas. So if he stays a pro he gets to play somewhere in Europe as he really won’t be an ideal G league guy. Or he could finish school and have the same fate next year. Harsh but true. A very good college player but that maybe it. Main reason to higher an agent is so the agent can give you money now to buy fancy suits and glasses and stuff. As far as not getting drafted by the NBA that's not a big deal. If he's willing to go over to China like Benimon did he can make multiple six figures. It's not that big a deal unless he has the capability to significantly improve his draft stock next year. MD is a very tough call in that regard. Given the improvement that he showed between years two and three, I can see him playing himself into the first round and maybe the top half if he continues to board and hit the three, while improving his foot speed. Not a whole lot of guys start in China and successfully migrate (although Yabusele comes to mind).
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