calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Apr 19, 2018 8:31:46 GMT -5
Major loss for the program next year but wishing him the best. I hope he is leaving the program on good terms. I still have not seen any comment from the school or the coaching staff on his departure. Have I missed something?
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Post by saxagael on Apr 19, 2018 10:25:22 GMT -5
While bummed Derrickson is really moving on, I guess I need to move on as well and get to grips he is moving on.
It looks like he picked up a good agent that has a wide reach and experience in many different markets, which is really good for Derrickson. I wish him nothing but the best and look forward to following his pro career, where ever it may be. Here's to another Hoya forever I'm deeply proud to have been on the Hilltop.
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Post by saxagael on Apr 19, 2018 10:29:56 GMT -5
While I don't think this is the best business decision for Marcus, I respect his decision and wish him the best. He always made the university proud with the way he played and carried himself off the floor. I hope everything turns out well for the young man. It might be the best business decision for Marcus. It just sucks for Georgetown. He could see guys like Melo Trimble, one of the better college players of his era, who stayed too long. Marcus also has been injured. As pointed out in this thread, he is a shorter, inside player who doesn't play above the rim. Govan could improve, but Marcus is more of finished product at the college level. You know what you are getting with Marcus. Start getting paid now and playing professionally against pros. If he really is good enough, he'l get his chance with the NBA. He didn't always play above the rim, but showed in a few games late in the season he was comfortable playing above the rim, particularly rebounding, and could really get up. Before the stepping on the ball running down court in Kenner that messed up his knee he normally was playing above the rim. It was good to see him get back to this again.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 19, 2018 12:03:10 GMT -5
It might be the best business decision for Marcus. It just sucks for Georgetown. He could see guys like Melo Trimble, one of the better college players of his era, who stayed too long. Marcus also has been injured. As pointed out in this thread, he is a shorter, inside player who doesn't play above the rim. Govan could improve, but Marcus is more of finished product at the college level. You know what you are getting with Marcus. Start getting paid now and playing professionally against pros. If he really is good enough, he'l get his chance with the NBA. He didn't always play above the rim, but showed in a few games late in the season he was comfortable playing above the rim, particularly rebounding, and could really get up. Before the stepping on the ball running down court in Kenner that messed up his knee he normally was playing above the rim. It was good to see him get back to this again. Was this an extra ball that rolled onto the court?
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Post by saxagael on Apr 19, 2018 13:46:30 GMT -5
He didn't always play above the rim, but showed in a few games late in the season he was comfortable playing above the rim, particularly rebounding, and could really get up. Before the stepping on the ball running down court in Kenner that messed up his knee he normally was playing above the rim. It was good to see him get back to this again. Was this an extra ball that rolled onto the court? No, it was a loose game ball on a fast break. Really a freakish accident, the way Doc's knee bent was ugly (the ball squished mightily as well). It was one of those moments that seemed to be in slow motion even though live. Derrickson was going full tilt. This was Kenner after his freshman year.
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Post by This Just In on Apr 22, 2018 20:22:42 GMT -5
If everything stays as is and these 2 players leave, they will be the first players in the history of the program to leave early and to not play a single game in the NIT nor NCAA Tournament.
Never thought I would see players leave the program early after a .500 season nor a losing season.
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Post by kghoya on Apr 23, 2018 0:31:07 GMT -5
If everything stays as is and these 2 players leave, they will be the first players in the history of the program to leave early and to not play a single game in the NIT nor NCAA Tournament. Never thought I would see players leave the program early after a .500 season nor a losing season. Not just that but they had a losing overall record and were TWENTY games under .500 in league play. Yikes
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Post by This Just In on Apr 24, 2018 9:23:55 GMT -5
If everything stays as is and these 2 players leave, they will be the first players in the history of the program to leave early and to not play a single game in the NIT nor NCAA Tournament. Never thought I would see players leave the program early after a .500 season nor a losing season. Not just that but they had a losing overall record and were TWENTY games under .500 in league play. Yikes Also takes away the often used fall back terms to describe a player by draft pundits and advocates "Also he's a winner." or "He's a winner too."
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Apr 24, 2018 11:59:52 GMT -5
I think if NBA scouts analyzed Derrickson's 2017-2018 shooting, they would find a solid percent made from NBA range and thus might be interested in Marcus as a late second round pick. He shot a lot of deep 3s and made a good percentage of them - several under shot clock/game-situation pressure.
He has some physical limitations, but he is tall, has long arms, and a quick/effortless/fluid release and rotation. He might get a draft look on the theory he could develop into a 3-point shooter off the bench.
The lack of athleticism (hops and lateral quicks) is the big question mark because it will hamper him on the defensive end in the NBA.
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 24, 2018 12:07:33 GMT -5
I think if NBA scouts analyzed Derrickson's 2017-2018 shooting, they would find a solid percent made from NBA range and thus might be interested in Marcus as a late second round pick. He shot a lot of deep 3s and made a good percentage of them - several under shot clock/game-situation pressure. He has some physical limitations, but he is tall, has long arms, and a quick/effortless/fluid release and rotation. He might get a draft look on the theory he could develop into a 3-point shooter off the bench. The lack of athleticism (hops and lateral quicks) is the big question mark because it will hamper him on the defensive end in the NBA. The next Hollis Thompson? But Thompson wasn't even drafted and I believe he graduated while only playing three seasons for the Hoyas. Enrolled early or something?
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Post by tashoya on Apr 24, 2018 12:46:26 GMT -5
I think if NBA scouts analyzed Derrickson's 2017-2018 shooting, they would find a solid percent made from NBA range and thus might be interested in Marcus as a late second round pick. He shot a lot of deep 3s and made a good percentage of them - several under shot clock/game-situation pressure. He has some physical limitations, but he is tall, has long arms, and a quick/effortless/fluid release and rotation. He might get a draft look on the theory he could develop into a 3-point shooter off the bench. The lack of athleticism (hops and lateral quicks) is the big question mark because it will hamper him on the defensive end in the NBA. The next Hollis Thompson? But Thompson wasn't even drafted and I believe he graduated while only playing three seasons for the Hoyas. Enrolled early or something? I don't think Hollis ever graduated though, IIRC, he was very close in terms of credits. I'm sure DFW will clarify. Unfortunately for Marcus, Philly is no longer "trusting the process" so that opportunity may not be available. Which other teams are tanking and looking for franchise-friendly contracts?
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 24, 2018 13:16:04 GMT -5
The next Hollis Thompson? But Thompson wasn't even drafted and I believe he graduated while only playing three seasons for the Hoyas. Enrolled early or something? I don't think Hollis ever graduated though, IIRC, he was very close in terms of credits. I'm sure DFW will clarify. Unfortunately for Marcus, Philly is no longer "trusting the process" so that opportunity may not be available. Which other teams are tanking and looking for franchise-friendly contracts? You're right. Thompson didn't graduate but was very bright. I wonder if he ever finished his degree? Down the road, Thompson would be interested in creating video games. He also plans on returning to Georgetown to complete his degree, this time in a dedicated classroom setting without the distractions of basketball. For now his sights are set on basketball as he completes his second year in the NBA. www.basketballinsiders.com/a-numbers-game-thompson-sees-basketball-with-mathematical-eye/
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Post by mapei on Apr 25, 2018 8:34:02 GMT -5
Great read about Hollis. Thanks for posting.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 26, 2018 11:22:18 GMT -5
I think Derrickson has no shot at the league. I don't think he can guard anyone at the next level. Most "shooters" can actually move around, come off screens and cause the defenses to scramble. They create spacing. Derrickson just isn't agile. He's a stationary shooter.
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Post by iowa80 on Apr 26, 2018 12:34:54 GMT -5
I think Derrickson has no shot at the league. I don't think he can guard anyone at the next level. Most "shooters" can actually move around, come off screens and cause the defenses to scramble. They create spacing. Derrickson just isn't agile. He's a stationary shooter. Agreed, because there are two parts to 3 & D. This is why the emergence of overseas locations with very viable paydays is good for the players and, in a way, bad for fans. MD likely would have been a four-year player awhile ago, and may not even be targeting the NBA. Again, I wish him well.
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Post by beenaround on Apr 26, 2018 23:42:16 GMT -5
FWIW, I had a conversation with someone on Marcus' representation team. They say he has lost more than 20 lbs from his playing weight and has gained some agility and vertical explosion. They think he will get a "two way" G League contract and not go to Europe. This allows the NBA team to pay the player more than the G league scale and normally players under this two way contract are more likely than the average G leaguer to get called up..although someone with better knowledge of that..feel free to correct me!
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Apr 27, 2018 1:44:25 GMT -5
FWIW, I had a conversation with someone on Marcus' representation team. They say he has lost more than 20 lbs from his playing weight and has gained some agility and vertical explosion. They think he will get a "two way" G League contract and not go to Europe. This allows the NBA team to pay the player more than the G league scale and normally players under this two way contract are more likely than the average G leaguer to get called up..although someone with better knowledge of that..feel free to correct me! That extra agility and explosion could’ve come in handy in college lol.
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 27, 2018 6:42:07 GMT -5
FWIW, I had a conversation with someone on Marcus' representation team. They say he has lost more than 20 lbs from his playing weight and has gained some agility and vertical explosion. They think he will get a "two way" G League contract and not go to Europe. This allows the NBA team to pay the player more than the G league scale and normally players under this two way contract are more likely than the average G leaguer to get called up..although someone with better knowledge of that..feel free to correct me! Seems correct. If Marcus gets a "two way" plus get called up, potential to make very decent money stateside. G League salaries are going up next season, to $35,000 for most players and up to $385,000 for those on two-way contracts. Two-way players next season will earn up to $77,250, topped on days where they're called up by the prorated NBA rookie salary. (I assume a player may earn up to $385k via the prorated NBA rookie salary). www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/ct-spt-nba-g-league-salary-20180417-story.html
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Post by tashoya on Apr 27, 2018 7:37:19 GMT -5
Marcus is a worker. Remember how he transformed his body before getting to school? If all it takes is better conditioning, I wouldn't bet against him. For his sake, I hope it is that simple.
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Post by Elvado on Apr 27, 2018 7:46:06 GMT -5
I hope it works out for Marcus. I also hope he availed himself of foreign language courses at GU.
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