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Post by dense on Apr 8, 2021 7:15:47 GMT -5
I'm surprised he hasn't said anything which in our case could mean a good thing. The Gonzaga and Seton Hall rumors that I saw were started by their fans no basis in any sources that I saw. Seton Hall is already loaded so they don't really need him now. Any team can use him. If healthy, he is an impact player especially defensively.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 8:21:42 GMT -5
Seton Hall is already loaded so they don't really need him now. Any team can use him. If healthy, he is an impact player especially defensively. I agree but have you seen what Seton Hall has done so far in the portal? They've gotten a number of pieces already. They all are good and they should be better than they were last year.
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Post by thedragon on Apr 8, 2021 10:31:23 GMT -5
Timberlake to Memphis. Don't think he ever was interested in coming back home.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 8, 2021 10:37:36 GMT -5
Timberlake to Memphis. Don't think he ever was interested in coming back home. Wow - another disappointing outcome from the portal. Lykes/Johnson/Timberlake all top 20 transfers, according to 247sports, none of them coming to a Hoyas team which appears to be in need of at least 4 new starters.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Apr 8, 2021 10:46:35 GMT -5
Harris and Carey are back. Aminu is a surefire starter. Temper the concern. We will get at least one impact transfer.
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Post by ewingitrust on Apr 8, 2021 10:49:31 GMT -5
Timberlake to Memphis. Don't think he ever was interested in coming back home. Or the staff never really reached out to him, Lykes or Johnson. At this point the staff has proven to find players and field a competitive team. I'll trust their judgment. There are alotta moving parts left to sort out.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 8, 2021 11:08:50 GMT -5
Timberlake to Memphis. Don't think he ever was interested in coming back home. Or the staff never really reached out to him, Lykes or Johnson. At this point the staff has proven to find players and field a competitive team. I'll trust their judgment. There are alotta moving parts left to sort out. If they didn't reach out to Timberlake, at the very least, that is gross negligence.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 11:23:39 GMT -5
They reached out to Timberlake, and 4 starters? Huh?
This is an odd narrative you’re pushing. You’re not starting Lykes next to Harris, and Harris is a starter. Carey started more than half the games last year, and Aminu isn’t coming here to be a bench player I’d imagine.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 8, 2021 11:45:40 GMT -5
They reached out to Timberlake, and 4 starters? Huh? This is an odd narrative you’re pushing. You’re not starting Lykes next to Harris and Harris is a starter. We need at least 4 new starters - we lost Wahab, Pickett, Bile and Blair.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 11:55:14 GMT -5
They reached out to Timberlake, and 4 starters? Huh? This is an odd narrative you’re pushing. You’re not starting Lykes next to Harris and Harris is a starter. We need at least 4 new starters - we lost Wahab, Pickett, Bile and Blair. Ok, but what are Harris, Carey, and Aminu? I mean, you said “at least” 4 new starters... I seriously doubt you’re going to see 4-5 more players added to our current roster.
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Post by DudeSlade on Apr 8, 2021 12:32:02 GMT -5
I'd also add that as of now we have no open scholarships. Of course, the staff is aware of much more than we are about who will and won't be there, and considering their ongoing activity it seems highly likely there will be more roster movement. But there's a lot of assumptions being made that we can just go get players that fill the gaps we see on the team. As of now we don't know if that's possible and we don't know where those gaps are. A couple weeks ago, we never anticipated that we'd have a new starting center.
We still have somewhere around the #11 recruiting class coming in. We're filling spots with quality kids. Of course we want the best players we can get, but based on what we know, we aren't sucking.
There's just too many unknowns in our current roster and in the overall college basketball landscape with open season on transfers to put any judgment about the relative performance of the staff until this all settles out. We'll have plenty of time for that when we know more. Timberlake would have been a nice get, but if we end up with an open scholarship and it gets filled by Pat Baldwin, is anyone really going to be upset we didn't get Timberlake instead? If we lose a guard but get Marreon Jackson, will we be thinking that we should have gotten a transfer 4 or Lykes instead? Missing out on transfers that we like when we don't know the roster construction for next year doesn't seem to me to yet warrant an indictment of the coaches. Maybe it will be in a couple months, but I think it's premature til we know more.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 8, 2021 12:49:08 GMT -5
We need at least 4 new starters - we lost Wahab, Pickett, Bile and Blair. Ok, but what are Harris, Carey, and Aminu? I mean, you said “at least” 4 new starters... I seriously doubt you’re going to see 4-5 more players added to our current roster. I didn't say add 4 new players to the current roster (although I won't at all be surprised if we have 2+ current players hit the portal in the coming weeks). We are replacing 4 starters. The 5th, Harris, would not be a lock to start ahead of some guys that are or were on the portal. I don't think we've seen enough from Harris or Carey to lock either of those guys into starting roles. Mohammed is expected to be a starter, sure. So, best case we've got 3 starters locked in (if you think Harris and Carey are the best we can do at the 1/2), worst case we've got 1 starter locked in (Mohammed). The point is that the staff could easily go to the portal and convince good players, like Timberlake/Lykes/Johnson, that there are starters minutes to be had at Georgetown. It's not very difficult and would allow for significant upgrades in our talent base.
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 8, 2021 12:59:03 GMT -5
The point is that the staff could easily go to the portal and convince good players, like Timberlake/Lykes/Johnson, that there are starters minutes to be had at Georgetown. It's not very difficult and would allow for significant upgrades in our talent base. Right, sure. You just easily go to the portal, and easily convince the top 1% of all transfer players to come to your school, at a time when just about every major power school has scholarships open (because they've had their own transfers). Piece of cake. Why didn't the staff just do that? I would have welcomed Timberlake for sure, but he can't shoot and we can use shooters. He's a lesser version of Aminu, and Aminu is better complimented by a guy like Carey than by a guy like Timberlake. Plus--and I'm not one for holding grudges against players by any means--but Timberlake had an opportunity to choose Georgetown and Ewing the first time and he didn't. Guys like Lykes, a little different story because even though they could have picked Georgetown, there was different leadership at the helm at the time. But Timberlake could have been a Hoya and didn't want to be, and guys like Sibley, Clark and Holloway took that offer. If those guys want to stay and work hard, I have no problem with being loyal to them. Have some patience. There's still a ton of action to come both with the portal and with high school recruiting. Wait until the dust settles before you suggest the staff was negligent or panic about next year's starters.
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Post by calhoya on Apr 8, 2021 13:15:50 GMT -5
Right, sure. You just easily go to the portal, and easily convince the top 1% of all transfer players to come to your school, at a time when just about every major power school has scholarships open (because they've had their own transfers). Piece of cake. Why didn't the staff just do that? I would have welcomed Timberlake for sure, but he can't shoot and we can use shooters. He's a lesser version of Aminu, and Aminu is better complimented by a guy like Carey than by a guy like Timberlake. Plus--and I'm not one for holding grudges against players by any means--but Timberlake had an opportunity to choose Georgetown and Ewing the first time and he didn't. Guys like Lykes, a little different story because even though they could have picked Georgetown, there was different leadership at the helm at the time. But Timberlake could have been a Hoya and didn't want to be, and guys like Sibley, Clark and Holloway took that offer. If those guys want to stay and work hard, I have no problem with being loyal to them. Have some patience. There's still a ton of action to come both with the portal and with high school recruiting. Wait until the dust settles before you suggest the staff was negligent or panic about next year's starters. Agree completely that this team needs shooters next year. Despite some of the scoring droughts this season, the team showed what Ewing's offensive approach can be when you can place three decent to good perimeter shooters on the floor. Of the returning players there is Carey, possibly Harris (if he improves his shot from deep), Berger, who is very raw in terms of everything but shooting and maybe Sibley, who flashed a little but did not see enough time to reveal much about his shooting skills. Holloway, Clarke and the posts did not show anything to suggest that they are strong shooters from deep.Don't know enough about all the incoming players but it sounded like more slashers than perimeter shooters.
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 8, 2021 13:34:01 GMT -5
Timberlake to Memphis. Don't think he ever was interested in coming back home. Wow - another disappointing outcome from the portal. Lykes/Johnson/Timberlake all top 20 transfers, according to 247sports, none of them coming to a Hoyas team which appears to be in need of at least 4 new starters. Lykes wasn’t offered.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 8, 2021 13:34:59 GMT -5
Wow - another disappointing outcome from the portal. Lykes/Johnson/Timberlake all top 20 transfers, according to 247sports, none of them coming to a Hoyas team which appears to be in need of at least 4 new starters. Lykes wasn’t offered. So he's good enough for Eric Musselman and Arkansas, but not good enough for Patrick Ewing and Georgetown? Got it, makes a ton of sense.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Apr 8, 2021 14:05:32 GMT -5
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Post by ewingitrust on Apr 8, 2021 14:49:57 GMT -5
And chemistry are both kinda important here. We've played the diva game before and look what happened. Timberlake, XJ, and Lykes are all have the NBA and improving their individual draft stock....that doesn't scream "Team" to me. Let's see how things play out before we immediately indict the staff on who they didn't get.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 17:04:11 GMT -5
So he's good enough for Eric Musselman and Arkansas, but not good enough for Patrick Ewing and Georgetown? Got it, makes a ton of sense. Idk man It seems like you're not thinking about roster construction at all. No matter what you think of Dante he will be one of our best and most experienced players. No idea why you would think adding a kid that would have to play instead of, as opposed to with him, is a good idea when you don't have unlimited roster spots to play with. Arkansas has Devo Davis who's one of the bespt defenders at the guard position in America and he's 6'3 with an out of this world wingspan. Lykes makes sense for them, but not for us. We didn't go after Xavier Johnson so he's not a miss. Just because you, or I, want a kid doesn't mean the staff does,
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 18, 2022 14:26:03 GMT -5
Timberlake to Memphis. Don't think he ever was interested in coming back home. On the move again...
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