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Post by gunny on Mar 18, 2017 13:39:55 GMT -5
May not like West Virginia or Huggie Bear, but they have a system, recruit to that system and do not try to be something they are not. I wonder how many 4 or 5 star players are on that roster?
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 18, 2017 13:40:34 GMT -5
I as well, especially their fans. But you can't knock their defensive intensity which we sorely lack by either desire or capability, it doesn't really matter. They play hard for Huggie. Does he wear that "coaching outfit"" to bed? But some of their fans are undeserving and unfortunately play into negative stereotypes about the state. The aftermath of the PE Jr. "no goaltending" game in Morgantown was not pretty and soured me on them. I used to go to games in Morgantown with the pep band when we played them in the 1970s (ECAC South) and Huggie played guard for them and sported the short shorts, high top socks and a headband (IIRC) in a classic 70s look. I try not to buy into the negative stereotype but sometimes can't help myself.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 18, 2017 13:42:01 GMT -5
May not like West Virginia or Huggie Bear, but they have a system, recruit to that system and do not try to be something they are not. I wonder how many 4 or 5 star players are on that roster? In others words, a solid team identity. Which we have lacked for several years now.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 18, 2017 14:13:50 GMT -5
May not like West Virginia or Huggie Bear, but they have a system, recruit to that system and do not try to be something they are not. I wonder how many 4 or 5 star players are on that roster? 1 Top 100 player are on the roster in Ahmed. I was logging on to say exactly what you said above Gunny! They have a defensive 1st mentality and press/style they all believe in. On offense they aren't complicated at all and give freedom to the players to use their natural abilities to make basketball plays. There are similarities of West Virginia when they switched conferences to the BIG 12 and Georgetown in the New BIG EAST. Both teams struggled within their new conferences and had loosing seasons. Both Head Coaches promised major changes. One of the Head Coaches got completely out of his comfort zone, brought in whole heartedly to massive changes and stuck with the changes from top to bottom bottom including recruiting and developing players to play his style no matter where they are ranked recruiting wise. The other continued to chase top 100 prospects whether they fit his style or not, bringing players in and forcing his offensive system on them regardless of fit and then after promising massive changes couldn't see them through past 1 month of the season. A Shift In Philosophy Led Huggin's To Build Press Virginia
(First posted by Etomic ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) ) The differences in the decisions of the head coaches and the results that followed is where the similarities end. Like you said above Gunny, you may not like Huggie Bear but you have to respect his abilities as a coach. Many don't like Huggin's because of his Bobby Knight like persona and ego. I find it funny it funny the coach with the huge persona and Ego had the insight to say my way isn't working I have to learn something new. Adapt, Evolve or die...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 18, 2017 14:29:10 GMT -5
Amen. Marquette kind of fell apart, but there's really no excuse for letting a state school play in their home state if there's any alternative at all. It's been an issue for seemingly forever. That JaJuan Johnson kid will be a thorn in our side next year though. He's got a nice game. Not accounting for the fact JJ is gone, can we really have a "thorn in our side" when we are this bad? Do you think DePaul fans say that anyone is a thorn in their side? Maybe a pin prick in the boil that is Georgetown basketball?
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Post by wisconsinhoya on Mar 18, 2017 14:51:11 GMT -5
While watching South Carolina completely wear down an over matched Marquette team last night or watching West Virginia defeat Notre Dame earlier today, it just reinforced how much I miss the "old Hoyas" philosophy & strategy of the John Thompson Jr. tenure. We may not have been the most offensively pretty team to watch, but we always brought defense, hustle and rebounding to the game. Plus our ability to press would usually wear down opponents the last 5 minutes of a game.
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Post by hoyajinx on Mar 18, 2017 15:52:20 GMT -5
Not accounting for the fact JJ is gone, can we really have a "thorn in our side" when we are this bad? Do you think DePaul fans say that anyone is a thorn in their side? Maybe a pin prick in the boil that is Georgetown basketball? Along the same lines, DiVincenzo is going to be a nightmare for the Big East. Again, as hoyainla noted, he won't be a problem for us cause we really won't figure in the BE for the foreseeable future.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 18, 2017 16:12:19 GMT -5
Josh Hart w/multiple Peak drives
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Post by 757hoyafan on Mar 18, 2017 16:14:17 GMT -5
Damn, Nova!
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 18, 2017 16:15:03 GMT -5
Ha, Nova.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 18, 2017 16:15:50 GMT -5
Boy, the Big East stinks, and we were the 2nd most stinkiest team in the BE.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 18, 2017 16:16:21 GMT -5
I admire the toughness with which Wisconsin plays. Much as I like to pull for the Big East, kinda nice to see Villanova come back to earth a little bit.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 18, 2017 16:23:38 GMT -5
Adios Nova. Nova Nation back to Suburb. Screw them and their fans.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 18, 2017 16:24:06 GMT -5
I admire the toughness with which Wisconsin plays. Much as I like to pull for the Big East, kinda nice to see Villanova come back to earth a little bit. For the good of the league, I was hoping they'd get to the Elite Eight before coming to Earth. But I agree totally about Wisconsin's character. Foul trouble, could have folded, but Hayes kept them in it. Thought 'Nova missed Phil Booth with Jenkins clearly off. Not a good look for the BE if Butler and Xavier go down.
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Post by Thomas on Mar 18, 2017 16:31:34 GMT -5
Lost amongst Villanova's national championship last season and the continued Big East dominance this season was the fact that Villanova had choked in the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament in 2014 and 2015, and they do it again this year. We should've seen this coming!!
But to be fair to Villanova, do you guys think Wisconsin was badly under-seeded?? I mean, how can Maryland be a 6th seed, Minnesota a 5 and Wisconsin an 8??? Wisconsin is clearly better than Maryland and Minnesota. I think Creighton was also screwed by playing Rhode Island, who probably should've been a 8 or 9 seed.
BeantownHoya, great observation!! Josh Hart dribbling right into 2 defenders on Villanova's final 2 possessions was eerily reminiscent off Peak's late-game execution in close games for Georgetown. At least Peak has an excuse of being on a bad team and suspect coaching...What The Hell Was Josh Hart Thinking!!!
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Post by Elvado on Mar 18, 2017 16:42:43 GMT -5
And Syracuse loses at home as well..
What a glorious day
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 18, 2017 16:57:36 GMT -5
I think Wright's head is on the chopping block; another early exit. Oh, sure he won it last year, but what has he done for them recently? ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 18, 2017 18:08:54 GMT -5
Hart did what Hart usually does. What must have been stupefying to the 'nova fans was that he did not get the call as he usually does. Nor did he deserve it. If you know any of them plan on hearing them complain about it for a long time.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 18, 2017 18:12:03 GMT -5
Exactly how aggressively did we pursue Donte DiVincenzo?
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Post by Elvado on Mar 18, 2017 18:25:43 GMT -5
Hart did what Hart usually does. What must have been stupefying to the 'nova fans was that he did not get the call as he usually does. Nor did he deserve it. If yo know any of them plan on hearing them complain about it for a long time. Imagine throwing yourself into traffic out of control and not getting a call... That takes away 40% of Nova's offensive game plan... So unfair.
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