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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 3, 2017 23:42:45 GMT -5
Please cite other recent top 40 recruits who transferred in their first semester for reasons other than playing time or wanting to be closer to home. I'll hang up and listen. To me, this recruitment is a sign of desperate times = desperate measures. Is this serious? To clarify, my point was that in general college students sometimes transfer early. I never said it was common among top 40 basketball recruits; and obviously, Cunliffe is transferring for basketball reasons. Maybe I didn't state my point clearly, but I wasn't trying to imply that top 40 players transfer often.
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Post by rockhoya on Jan 4, 2017 0:00:41 GMT -5
To clarify, my point was that in general college students sometimes transfer early. I never said it was common among top 40 basketball recruits; and obviously, Cunliffe is transferring for basketball reasons. Maybe I didn't state my point clearly, but I wasn't trying to imply that top 40 players transfer often. Completely understood.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 13:09:17 GMT -5
TheShiver briefly caught up with Sam about his visit to Kansas.
"That game was INSANE!!!! I loved every minute of it," said Cunliffe about the Kansas win over Kansas State that came when Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk hit a game winning lay-up with no time left on the clock.
Cunliffe was also very impressed with the KU campus and basketball facilities.
"Yeah. It was amazing," Cunliffe said about the KU campus and facilities.
Cunliffe visited Georgetown right before his trip to Kansas, but according to Cunliffe, his visits are all done.
"No more visits," said Cunliffe. "Deciding real soon. No more than 3 days," he added.
Cunliffe, who decided to transfer from Arizona State at the semester break. Cunliffe averaged 9.5 points and 4.5 rebounds in ten games for the Sun Devils
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 4, 2017 13:23:26 GMT -5
If it's down to us or KU in a H2H battle, I don't like our chances.
If KU takes Sam, does that mean they're out of the running for Ike?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 4, 2017 13:37:05 GMT -5
Cunliffe was also very impressed with the KU campus and basketball facilities. "Yeah. It was amazing," Cunliffe said about the KU campus and facilities. I think some people mistakenly thought the Thompson Center was some sort of game-changer. No, it got Georgetown into the discussion but there are 30-40 comparably comfortable facilities all over the place. By the way, KU has quite a dorm for its basketball players (and a few others so it's not officially an athletic dorm): www2.kusports.com/news/2015/oct/17/inside-mccarthy-hall-ku-basketball-teams-insane-ne/
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Post by Filo on Jan 4, 2017 13:48:32 GMT -5
Cunliffe was also very impressed with the KU campus and basketball facilities. "Yeah. It was amazing," Cunliffe said about the KU campus and facilities. I think some people mistakenly thought the Thompson Center was some sort of game-changer. No, it got Georgetown into the discussion but there are 30-40 comparably comfortable facilities all over the place. By the way, KU has quite a dorm for its basketball players (and a few others so it's not officially an athletic dorm): www2.kusports.com/news/2015/oct/17/inside-mccarthy-hall-ku-basketball-teams-insane-ne/It is a game-changer in that we are now at least in the same area code as other schools' facilities. In other words, our facilities are not a negative now. I don't know of anyone who thought of it as a game-changer in terms of outshining any of those schools.
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Post by rockhoya on Jan 4, 2017 14:02:30 GMT -5
Cunliffe was also very impressed with the KU campus and basketball facilities. "Yeah. It was amazing," Cunliffe said about the KU campus and facilities. I think some people mistakenly thought the Thompson Center was some sort of game-changer. No, it got Georgetown into the discussion but there are 30-40 comparably comfortable facilities all over the place. By the way, KU has quite a dorm for its basketball players (and a few others so it's not officially an athletic dorm): www2.kusports.com/news/2015/oct/17/inside-mccarthy-hall-ku-basketball-teams-insane-ne/Huh? 30-40? Where'd you get that number?
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Post by seaweed on Jan 4, 2017 14:11:54 GMT -5
Huh? 30-40? Where'd you get that number? it is an arbitrary number, made up to perpetuate the myth that nothing good ever happens in Hoyaland
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Post by dense on Jan 4, 2017 14:14:25 GMT -5
If it's down to us or KU in a H2H battle, I don't like our chances. If KU takes Sam, does that mean they're out of the running for Ike? yeah but I dont think players always look at it like this. You have to look at fit. Let's say he goes to Kansas and they recruit someone at his spot. He might share time with someone if he does not beat them out. It is no Guarantee that he goes to Kansas and starts. Especially if they sign another player which they are going to do. I think seeing Pryor get the shots he did in that game was an eye opener in terms of how he will get to play. We still might lose out here but I do not think it is because Kansas is "better" he had better schools recruiting him his 1st go around and picked Arizona St just because he vibed with Hurley
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 14:18:18 GMT -5
@hometown Think KU has 2 open slots
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 4, 2017 14:53:41 GMT -5
That dorm is crazy. That's why Georgetown will never be able to fully compete based on facilities, even with the new practice facility. It's easy to see how much of a lure that can be to a 16 or 17 year old high school student.
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Post by seaweed on Jan 4, 2017 15:24:25 GMT -5
[quote author=" hoyasaxa2003" source="/post/709021/thread" timestamp="1483559621" That's why Georgetown will never be able to fully compete based on facilities, even with the new practice facility. It's easy to see how much of a lure that can be to a 16 or 17 year old high school student. [/quote] That dorm is still located in Lawrence KS, right?
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jan 4, 2017 15:25:06 GMT -5
YaBoy is correct. Kansas has 2 schollys left but presumably they are holding 1 for Trevon Duval who has Kansas in his final 5 along with Baylor, Duke, Seton Hall and Arizona. Verbal Commits-Kansas Regarding Cunliffe, it will be considered a major upset if he picks Hoyas over Kansas. It will tell me something about the kid and how he views the world and looks at opportunities. Right now the only thing the Hoyas have to sell over Kansas is a Georgetown education and degree. Kansas will have an immediate opportunity to play at the wing replacing Josh Jackson for a team that's a Top 10 program annually. Cunliffe has an opportunity to play right away at Georgetown replacing Pryor but the state of the program is much different then the Blue Blood in Lawrence that's trying to win it's 13 straight conference title. In terms of facilities and game environment it's not even close. I've been to Hoyas games at Verizon and I've been lucky enough to attend a game at the Phog. Their home court advantage is light years ahead of almost everybody, Cameron Crazies included because the Phog holds more people. Their fans are insane and there is a winning allure to the program at home. An expectation to win every time they step on the floor no matter who they are playing that you can almost feel throughout the Allen Field house. When you have that type of environment and palpable expectations you can take 5 steps without dribbling and throw up a game winning shot without getting the traveling call. That's the difference between the Hoyas at the Verizon center where there's a minimal home court advantage and teams come in their and get calls as if it's a neutral site game (at best) and road teams going into Allen Fieldhouse not expecting to get any calls. Somebody with more time on their hands please tell me when was the last time a team went into the Phog and shot 15+ free throws over the Jayhawks?
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Post by dense on Jan 4, 2017 15:39:43 GMT -5
YaBoy is correct. Kansas has 2 schollys left but presumably they are holding 1 for Trevon Duval who has Kansas in his final 5 along with Baylor, Duke, Seton Hall and Arizona. Verbal Commits-Kansas Regarding Cunliffe, it will be considered a major upset if he picks Hoyas over Kansas. It will tell me something about the kid and how he views the world and looks at opportunities. Right now the only thing the Hoyas have to sell over Kansas is a Georgetown education and degree. Kansas will have an immediate opportunity to play at the wing replacing Josh Jackson for a team that's a Top 10 program annually. Cunliffe has an opportunity to play right away at Georgetown replacing Pryor but the state of the program is much different then the Blue Blood in Lawrence that's trying to win it's 13 straight conference title. In terms of facilities and game environment it's not even close. I've been to Hoyas games at Verizon and I've been lucky enough to attend a game at the Phog. Their home court advantage is light years ahead of almost everybody, Cameron Crazies included because the Phog holds more people. Their fans are insane and there is a winning allure to the program at home. An expectation to win every time they step on the floor no matter who they are playing that you can almost feel throughout the Allen Field house. When you have that type of environment and palpable expectations you can take 5 steps without dribbling and throw up a game winning shot without getting the traveling call. That's the difference between the Hoyas at the Verizon center where there's a minimal home court advantage and teams come in their and get calls as if it's a neutral site game (at best) and road teams going into Allen Fieldhouse not expecting to get any calls. Somebody with more time on their hands please tell me when was the last time a team went into the Phog and shot 15+ free throws over the Jayhawks? 2 left plus Josh Jackson. so they have alot of spots left plus they are in on Kevin Knox who is a SF. Also if Duval goes there. I doubt Cunliff starts over Graham or Newman.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jan 4, 2017 15:52:40 GMT -5
YaBoy is correct. Kansas has 2 schollys left but presumably they are holding 1 for Trevon Duval who has Kansas in his final 5 along with Baylor, Duke, Seton Hall and Arizona. Verbal Commits-Kansas Regarding Cunliffe, it will be considered a major upset if he picks Hoyas over Kansas. It will tell me something about the kid and how he views the world and looks at opportunities. Right now the only thing the Hoyas have to sell over Kansas is a Georgetown education and degree. Kansas will have an immediate opportunity to play at the wing replacing Josh Jackson for a team that's a Top 10 program annually. Cunliffe has an opportunity to play right away at Georgetown replacing Pryor but the state of the program is much different then the Blue Blood in Lawrence that's trying to win it's 13 straight conference title. In terms of facilities and game environment it's not even close. I've been to Hoyas games at Verizon and I've been lucky enough to attend a game at the Phog. Their home court advantage is light years ahead of almost everybody, Cameron Crazies included because the Phog holds more people. Their fans are insane and there is a winning allure to the program at home. An expectation to win every time they step on the floor no matter who they are playing that you can almost feel throughout the Allen Field house. When you have that type of environment and palpable expectations you can take 5 steps without dribbling and throw up a game winning shot without getting the traveling call. That's the difference between the Hoyas at the Verizon center where there's a minimal home court advantage and teams come in their and get calls as if it's a neutral site game (at best) and road teams going into Allen Fieldhouse not expecting to get any calls. Somebody with more time on their hands please tell me when was the last time a team went into the Phog and shot 15+ free throws over the Jayhawks? 2 left plus Josh Jackson. so they have alot of spots left plus they are in on Kevin Knox who is a SF. Also if Duval goes there. I doubt Cunliff starts over Graham or Newman. I believe they are out of the Knox conversation as he's focused on Duke and Kentucky hence why Cunliffe was on campus for his visit. From everything I read, Cunliffe's being looked at the 3 (Josh Jackson replacement) to play alongside Newman and Graham. Where it becomes interesting is if they get Duval (which I doubt) and Graham returns for his senior year (which I expect). In that situation, Cunliffe would get squeezed.
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Post by triplehoya09 on Jan 4, 2017 15:54:10 GMT -5
Didn't Pryor choose us over Kansas? It's not unheard of. Not saying it's going to happen either.
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Post by rockhoya on Jan 4, 2017 15:55:47 GMT -5
That dorm is crazy. That's why Georgetown will never be able to fully compete based on facilities, even with the new practice facility. It's easy to see how much of a lure that can be to a 16 or 17 year old high school student. Yeah, but it's almost self-filtering. I'd rather have kids that are talented and aren't too into all the extra cosmetic stuff (Um, Ike that's u) and who are just natural gym rats. Steph honed his shooting on a light pole with a basket, you don't need a fancy bedroom to get results. And to act like there aren't enough talented kids out there who don't prioritize the perks is just silly...
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Post by Elvado on Jan 4, 2017 16:54:29 GMT -5
That dorm is crazy. That's why Georgetown will never be able to fully compete based on facilities, even with the new practice facility. It's easy to see how much of a lure that can be to a 16 or 17 year old high school student. Yeah, but it's almost self-filtering. I'd rather have kids that are talented and aren't too into all the extra cosmetic stuff (Um, Ike that's u) and who are just natural gym rats. Steph honed his shooting on a light pole with a basket, you don't need a fancy bedroom to get results. And to act like their aren't enough talented kids out their who don't prioritize the perks is just silly... Nice to see Former GU SID Jim Marchioni quoted in the article about superior facilities...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 4, 2017 17:22:23 GMT -5
The bigger obstacle - since Cunliffe was at the KU-K St. game last night, he knows that if he is a Jayhawk, he gets to take 3 steps (or more) before he has to get off a shot. Hard for us to offer that.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Jan 4, 2017 18:25:54 GMT -5
The bigger obstacle - since Cunliffe was at the KU-K St. game last night, he knows that if he is a Jayhawk, he gets to take 3 steps (or more) before he has to get off a shot. Hard for us to offer that. That's that new Super EuroStep, I like to call it the Mario!
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