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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 21:38:17 GMT -5
The athletics department posted three videos today for UNCG and all three were fascinating. There is a chemistry with this team that I don't remember seeing in recent Hoya teams. LJ talked about how much he enjoyed having freedom from the staff to do what he needs to do on the court. He also started grinning ear to ear at the mention of Pryor. Pryor talked about how the "Princeton" made him a better player. It showcases his talent and lets him get shot opportunities without having to create. Said the idea it's a slow offense was wrong. Wish every recruit would watch that! Finally, JTIII was there and he was mostly his usual self, but he even cut a few jokes, talking about how Pryor needed to rebound and the like. Of course he's right, but he did it in a way that just seemed different. Good vibes right now. Hope they keep it going tomorrow. Is there a link for the other videos Bama? I wasn't able to locate them.. www.youtube.com/user/GeorgetownAthleticsSubscribe and you'll get the alerts when they post if you want..
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 21, 2016 21:52:51 GMT -5
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Post by aleutianhoya on Dec 22, 2016 11:01:51 GMT -5
The key to this game is that it really gives us the ability to make the entire pre-conference schedule close to irrelevant for NCAA qualification purposes. Realistically, even if we had beaten MD, Ark. St. (and beat UConn), we were going to be on the bubble if we went 8-10 in the league anyway. Maybe we would have snuck in, but we probably would have needed 9-9 to feel safe.
If we win tonight, even given those hiccups, going 9-9 in the league probably gets us in, given the strength of the league and the teams we'd necessarily have to beat to get to nine wins.
I'm oversimplifying somewhat -- obviously the MD and Ark St. games hurt us -- but the point is that to achieve the most basic of our goals (NCAAT qualification) we're very close to where we would have been even without the hiccups.
That's the obvious benefit to the league being as strong as it is and playing a tough non-conference schedule to boot.
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Post by trillesthoya on Dec 22, 2016 12:28:53 GMT -5
The key to this game is that it really gives us the ability to make the entire pre-conference schedule close to irrelevant for NCAA qualification purposes. Realistically, even if we had beaten MD, Ark. St. (and beat UConn), we were going to be on the bubble if we went 8-10 in the league anyway. Maybe we would have snuck in, but we probably would have needed 9-9 to feel safe. If we win tonight, even given those hiccups, going 9-9 in the league probably gets us in, given the strength of the league and the teams we'd necessarily have to beat to get to nine wins. I'm oversimplifying somewhat -- obviously the MD and Ark St. games hurt us -- but the point is that to achieve the most basic of our goals (NCAAT qualification) we're very close to where we would have been even without the hiccups. That's the obvious benefit to the league being as strong as it is and playing a tough non-conference schedule to boot. I think the Uconn game will determine if 9-9 is good enough. Presuming we beat UConn and UNCG, that puts us at 18-13 heading into the BET, which is pretty solid. If we lose to Uconn, I'm not sure 17-14 gets us in. Reminder that Syracuse went 9-9 in the ACC last season and they barely squeaked in. Their only "bad" loss last season was to St. John's, but they're still technically a major conference team (And us, with how last season ended up losing to us was probably their second worst lost). They didn't have a loss at home to Arkansas State or a blowout loss to Oklahoma State. Every game they lost was relatively competitive. Also I think we need to handle our business in the BET. Can't lose the first game to someone outside of the Nova, Xavier, Creighton, Butler crowd. That would be really really bad.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Dec 22, 2016 12:38:52 GMT -5
The key to this game is that it really gives us the ability to make the entire pre-conference schedule close to irrelevant for NCAA qualification purposes. Realistically, even if we had beaten MD, Ark. St. (and beat UConn), we were going to be on the bubble if we went 8-10 in the league anyway. Maybe we would have snuck in, but we probably would have needed 9-9 to feel safe. If we win tonight, even given those hiccups, going 9-9 in the league probably gets us in, given the strength of the league and the teams we'd necessarily have to beat to get to nine wins. I'm oversimplifying somewhat -- obviously the MD and Ark St. games hurt us -- but the point is that to achieve the most basic of our goals (NCAAT qualification) we're very close to where we would have been even without the hiccups. That's the obvious benefit to the league being as strong as it is and playing a tough non-conference schedule to boot. I think the Uconn game will determine if 9-9 is good enough. Presuming we beat UConn and UNCG, that puts us at 18-13 heading into the BET, which is pretty solid. If we lose to Uconn, I'm not sure 17-14 gets us in. Reminder that Syracuse went 9-9 in the ACC last season and they barely squeaked in. Their only "bad" loss last season was to St. John's, but they're still technically a major conference team (And us, with how last season ended up losing to us was probably their second worst lost). They didn't have a loss at home to Arkansas State or a blowout loss to Oklahoma State. Every game they lost was relatively competitive. Also I think we need to handle our business in the BET. Can't lose the first game to someone outside of the Nova, Xavier, Creighton, Butler crowd. That would be really really bad. I think it's probably too early to get into the nitty gritty. My point simply was that in many years, the losses we've had may have meant that we would have had to go 12-6 (to pick a random high number of wins) to get a bid. That is, we'd have to do really well in conference, and that's hard to do. But the strength of the league this year means that something akin to 9-9 likely will be enough (give or take a game). And we probably would have had to have finished with a record like that anyway, even without the bad losses, since it's hard to qualify with a losing in-conference record.
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 22, 2016 13:32:51 GMT -5
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Post by Highsmith on Dec 22, 2016 14:20:47 GMT -5
I think this is a game that will be hugely telling with regard to the rest of the season. If we lose, everyone on here gets REALLY negative, its a redux of last year, we can kiss NCAAs goodbye, and the team will have killed any momentum it has gained over the past 5 games. If we win, we have a solid 6 game winning streak going into conference play, we've vanquished our north carolina directional school demons, UNCG is actually not a BAD team, and the guys have a lot of confidence at 8-4 with a challenging first 5 game conference slate. In sum, tomorrow's game is big. Go Hoyas. Totally agree....this is as much of a must win game from a fan perspective as we've had this year. (Other than Syracuse, but that's for different reasons). With Arkansas St, we didn't know beforehand that we would be in any sort of panic mode going forward....yet. In Maui, the competition was strong enough that we couldn't say it was must-win. The Howard/Elon/etc games were big, but we were in the middle of a meltdown and just expected to lose every game. Now that we have a winning streak with a couple of solid wins included, I think most of us are slowly climbing back up the mountain of delusion. We are starting to think/hope that we may be a solid team when all is said and done. We are starting to think/hope that our huge slide into the pit of despair may have been premature. A win, and we keep climbing into the BE season. A loss and we slide right back into the pit. I don't like it in the pit....
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 22, 2016 14:35:19 GMT -5
So for all the talk of a " new offense" it turns out they're still running JT3 's offense.. Very interesting hearing Pryor talk about playing in the Princeton offense, it's not a surprise that he likes it..
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Post by GUJook97 on Dec 22, 2016 16:08:41 GMT -5
I think this is a game that will be hugely telling with regard to the rest of the season. If we lose, everyone on here gets REALLY negative, its a redux of last year, we can kiss NCAAs goodbye, and the team will have killed any momentum it has gained over the past 5 games. If we win, we have a solid 6 game winning streak going into conference play, we've vanquished our north carolina directional school demons, UNCG is actually not a BAD team, and the guys have a lot of confidence at 8-4 with a challenging first 5 game conference slate. In sum, tomorrow's game is big. Go Hoyas. I agree. And, i dont think the scheduling the year is coincidental at all. After the debacles last year, there was every intention to ensure that we had ample practice time and good spacing for these types of games during finals, etc. I was at that Monmouth game last year, and it was basically over in the first 5-10 minutes. This is a big game.
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Post by calhoya on Dec 22, 2016 16:17:16 GMT -5
I still would like to know whether Fox or the conference is responsible for scheduling these 6:30 p.m. starts. I realize that there is an assumption that the Big East is a conference with a fan base largely in the East, but given some of the national schools involved it seems that they have needlessly written off half the nation with respect to the early games. On the West Coast it means everything is taped delay--if you have the self-discipline not to check the score or missing the broadcast. Last year I could make it home by halftime. Now it is a complete joke. Additionally, from what I can tell the arena is still filling up throughout the first half of the game.
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 22, 2016 17:44:43 GMT -5
Apparently, we're wearing white jerseys. So this is going to suck.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 22, 2016 18:01:18 GMT -5
Apparently, we're wearing white jerseys. So this is going to suck. Clearly the team already knows we're going to lose, they just want a scape goat.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 22, 2016 18:43:48 GMT -5
Thank you Jessie!! Love those 2 jumpers..
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Post by zxhoya on Dec 22, 2016 18:45:11 GMT -5
Well scoring doesn't seem to be an issue but once again we're getting killed on the Offensive boards and the pressing D is Awful.
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Post by zxhoya on Dec 22, 2016 18:50:46 GMT -5
Mulmore 1st point G off the bench and he's really pushing the pace.
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Post by zxhoya on Dec 22, 2016 18:54:16 GMT -5
Now Tre and Mulmore in together along LJ, Derrickson and Hayes
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Post by zxhoya on Dec 22, 2016 19:00:10 GMT -5
Half court D is much better, less pressing.
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Post by trillesthoya on Dec 22, 2016 19:06:27 GMT -5
Hmm our lead seems to grow whenever we stop pressing... I wonder if there's a correlation.
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Post by zxhoya on Dec 22, 2016 19:09:38 GMT -5
Hmm our lead seems to grow whenever we stop pressing... I wonder if there's a correlation. From your mouth to JT3's ears.....please.
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Post by zxhoya on Dec 22, 2016 19:14:02 GMT -5
Both Govan and Hayes are doing a good job of clogging the middle and protecting the rim but must do a better job boxing out for rebounds but it's everyone must box out as well.
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