SDHoya
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Post by SDHoya on Nov 17, 2016 19:41:14 GMT -5
Call me a fair weather fan, call me bandwagon, whatever you will. Sure, I was a season ticket holder for ten years before I moved out of the DC area, and have continued to watch every game on TV, but who cares. I'm done.
I will still watch Hoyas games when I have nothing else going on, I will still generally pull for my team. But I will do so with no emotional investment. I won't yell at the screen when we get embarrassed by some mid major or blow a sure thing in the last minute. But nor will I whoop and holler when things go our way. I'll watch a Hoyas game for the same reason I'd watch a Gonzaga game, or a Duke game, or a Southern Illinois game--because its on.
We keep saying that the team has hit rock bottom, but then the team just seems to find a new way to dig deeper. Nothing was learned from last year, or the year before, etc. But its clear everyone else has this team's (and coach's) number. And I can't keep putting myself out there just to find myself in the same spot, emotionally spent following the progressively accelerating train crash that is this team in the years since 2007. My sanity is more important than this.
I can be persuaded to come back on board. But it would seem to be increasingly unlikely that JTIII has the ability to turn this ship around.
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Post by royski on Nov 17, 2016 19:48:30 GMT -5
I think a lot of us are at that point. In a normal program, you change coaches well before your most loyal fans get to that point, but obviously there are special circumstances here. Well, those special circumstances can't win out anymore at this point. It's not even new students who have never experienced any success tuning this program out. It's people like you, 10 year season ticket holders, die hards. The program is dying, and something needs to change immediately.
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hoya1984
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Post by hoya1984 on Nov 17, 2016 20:02:14 GMT -5
I am with you, I do not care anymore.
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Post by hoya1984 on Nov 17, 2016 20:09:44 GMT -5
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Post by 757hoyafan on Nov 17, 2016 20:57:22 GMT -5
I will continue to watch. I am a FAN whether we're a FF team or 0-30. Go root for another team, deleted!
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Post by the_way on Nov 17, 2016 21:04:15 GMT -5
Get over yourself.
3 games in, and you are already quitting?
I'm glad our players don't have this attitude.
They didn't quit in the 2nd half when they could have easily folded.
Yeah we suck right now, but we'll get better. III will right the ship.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 21:06:43 GMT -5
Get over yourself. 3 games in, and you are already quitting? I'm glad our players don't have this attitude. They didn't quit in the 2nd half when they could have easily folded. Yeah we suck right now, but we'll get better. III will right the ship. I don't know if the last sentence is true. I hope so. But I agree with everything else. |
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Post by eagle54 on Nov 17, 2016 21:43:46 GMT -5
I will continue to watch. I am a FAN whether we're a FF team or 0-30. Go root for another team, deleted! |
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Post by eagle54 on Nov 17, 2016 21:46:19 GMT -5
I just collected all of my kid's Hoya gear temporarily for fear of them being bullied at school.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Nov 17, 2016 21:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by eagle54 on Nov 17, 2016 22:02:03 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 17, 2016 22:24:46 GMT -5
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Nov 18, 2016 1:05:06 GMT -5
Everybody comes to win against Georgetown. I have said it before, the 3-point shot is a potent weapon. How many did they take compared to us. They were well-prepared, psyched and crafty. On the other hand, we will get better. We have the pieces; they just need more time to gel.
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 18, 2016 1:06:23 GMT -5
Everybody comes to win against Georgetown. I have said it before, the 3-point shot is a potent weapon. How many did they take compared to us. They were well-prepared, psyched and crafty. On the other hand, we will get better. We have the pieces; they just need more time to gel. They took 12, we took 20. What's your point? |
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Post by eagle54 on Nov 18, 2016 1:06:56 GMT -5
Everybody comes to win against Georgetown. I have said it before, the 3-point shot is a potent weapon. How many did they take compared to us. They were well-prepared, psyched and crafty. On the other hand, we will get better. We have the pieces; they just need more time to gel. I hope you are kidding with that. |
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 18, 2016 9:11:30 GMT -5
I like this thread. Seriously. It captures all of my feelings so well right now.
I come and go on this board, that's life. I'm in my 30s, just had a kid, sometimes I get riled up, sometimes I get excited. I'm always checking in, and depending on where my life is at any given moment, sometimes I have the time to wade into the discussions on the board which is irrespective of how I may be living or dying IRL with the results of our squad.
I've been at this for close to 15 years, been to enough games, seen enough games, supported enough, have enough WAG shirts to make a carpet of them for my house. As I renewed my tickets this year, first year with a kid, I was excited for a few of the games I had circled, looking forward to the Saturday afternoons with the family for some cheap entertainment at the Booth. That's where I'm at with this program right now. We went to open practice because it was fun to take my daughter into DC and do some family stuff. My dad will be in town for Thanksgiving and maybe we'll get away from the womenfolk for the Howard game, it could be a fun few hours.
Whether we win or lose, I think I too am over the highs and lows. I'll probably keep renewing my tickets because they're relatively cheap and it's a fun thing to do in the winter. We'll probably always at a minimum be just good enough to make it worthwhile, and hey maybe there will be a magical year every now and then. Will I still lose my mind watching games like last night? Sure. But I think last night also may have been a turning point in terms of priorities because ultimately I just don't have the emotional capital these days to spend on a perpetually disappointing team no matter how much it may have meant to me for years.
Waiting for halftime of a game in which you are down 20 points in your home gym to Directional U. to give your daughter a bath because you're anticipating some sort of dousing of the fire of the train wreck that is this program, well, that's the definition of insanity.
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Post by hoyadestroya on Nov 18, 2016 13:28:16 GMT -5
Been a Hoya fan since the mid 80s and have been quite loyal with the ups and downs. I will continue to root for them but as others are starting to feel, I'm not so sure I will feel I need to watch the games with as much passion as I have in the past. What I fear more is the group of kids say 7 - 12 yrs old who are starting to follow sports and are most influenced by seeing a winning team and this team just is not right now. There isn't a superstar, they aren't winning, etc. For the Hoyas to stay a national brand, something has to change sooner than later.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Nov 18, 2016 14:16:07 GMT -5
Over? Did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
And it ain't over now! Cause when the going gets tough, the tough gets going! Who's with me!
Right now the team has their backs firmly planted against the wall. Only one thing left to do and that's to come out swinging. They need to respond by playing
as hard and as smart as they ever have played! Starts right now!
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 18, 2016 14:34:52 GMT -5
Been a Hoya fan since the mid 80s and have been quite loyal with the ups and downs. I will continue to root for them but as others are starting to feel, I'm not so sure I will feel I need to watch the games with as much passion as I have in the past. What I fear more is the group of kids say 7 - 12 yrs old who are starting to follow sports and are most influenced by seeing a winning team and this team just is not right now. There isn't a superstar, they aren't winning, etc. For the Hoyas to stay a national brand, something has to change sooner than later. Not just the kids--the undergrads as well. If you don't spend time (and have fun experiences) rooting for the Hoyas in college because they're mediocre/bad and boring to watch, why are you going to care as an alum? Hoya basketball was a big part of my college experience my last two years. The first two years (when Esherick was still the coach), I still rooted for them and I still had tickets, but it wasn't that big of a deal to miss a game (especially Esherick's last year) and just check in on how they did. Spend four years doing that, and then as you lose free time to work, family, etc., are you really going to put effort into following the Hoyas (especially over other teams you grew up rooting for)? Most Hoya alums didn't grow up cheering for the Hoyas, so you don't even have the family thing that professional / state school teams have. |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 18, 2016 14:56:44 GMT -5
Been a Hoya fan since the mid 80s and have been quite loyal with the ups and downs. I will continue to root for them but as others are starting to feel, I'm not so sure I will feel I need to watch the games with as much passion as I have in the past. What I fear more is the group of kids say 7 - 12 yrs old who are starting to follow sports and are most influenced by seeing a winning team and this team just is not right now. There isn't a superstar, they aren't winning, etc. For the Hoyas to stay a national brand, something has to change sooner than later. After the early 1990s and with the exception of the two Iverson seasons, the end of JTII's tenure didn't do a whole lot to help the brand either. And Esherick certainly didn't help either. Then JT3 comes in and quickly gets a Sweet 16 and Final Four and boom. My point is, it doesn't take a lot to quickly reverse the narrative. Most casual fans aren't even paying attention yet. |
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