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Post by shocky1 on Nov 5, 2016 0:03:10 GMT -5
Hold on... you're posting a link to your own post on another board and playing it like it's insider info? Plus on the other board you call the the guy you are promoting info from "a bozo"? Uhhhh... next please. center court, did you mean to say uuuooo?
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Nov 5, 2016 2:53:44 GMT -5
I dont get it either unless he plans to go back to the same school after the NBA. He is a definitely one and done player. What school academically really will not factor in I think. This might be naive, but I don't think Brown is a lock to be one-and-done at all. He's a great, great player, but he's not a spectacular athlete or shooter, and those are the skills most in demand in the NBA right now. Not saying he's definitely staying multiple years, but I think it's definitely a possibility that he could, and if that's his mindset, then academics could be a factor.
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Post by rockhoya on Nov 5, 2016 9:16:46 GMT -5
I dont get it either unless he plans to go back to the same school after the NBA. He is a definitely one and done player. What school academically really will not factor in I think. Lol that's cute
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Nov 5, 2016 10:04:22 GMT -5
I dont get it either unless he plans to go back to the same school after the NBA. He is a definitely one and done player. What school academically really will not factor in I think. Lol that's cute What's so crazy about this? He may not be one and done, but he's certainly got his eye on the nba and has a very, very good chance to get there. That fact alone requires that he make a basketball decision. Now, the discipline and culture that comes with attending Georgetown could be valuable to him long-term, but if he chooses Kansas or Oregon, it's going to be because he believes they give him the best chance to make it to the NBA. And I wouldn't fault him for that.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Nov 5, 2016 10:53:06 GMT -5
Getting there and being prepared to be successful at that level are two different things. I've said it all along, these guys have other gifts and talents that need to be nurtured just as much as basketball.
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Nov 5, 2016 15:08:04 GMT -5
Getting there and being prepared to be successful at that level are two different things. I've said it all along, these guys have other gifts and talents that need to be nurtured just as much as basketball. Right. But going to a basketball powerhouse and being prepared for NBA success aren't exactly mutually exclusive...
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Post by stafford72 on Nov 5, 2016 16:07:26 GMT -5
Educational attainment and personal development are incumbent on the individual and can be obtained at any NCAA institution. Georgetown and Cal do not guarantee either one. There are a myriad of reasons for selecting a particular school and not selecting an elite academic university is not necessarily a repudiation of intellectual interest.
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Post by dense on Nov 5, 2016 17:30:52 GMT -5
I dont get it either unless he plans to go back to the same school after the NBA. He is a definitely one and done player. What school academically really will not factor in I think. This might be naive, but I don't think Brown is a lock to be one-and-done at all. He's a great, great player, but he's not a spectacular athlete or shooter, and those are the skills most in demand in the NBA right now. Not saying he's definitely staying multiple years, but I think it's definitely a possibility that he could, and if that's his mindset, then academics could be a factor. No skills most in demand are people who are multidimensional. He can play on or off ball and is an incredible passer. He is also a pretty damn good athlete from the U17 games I watched him in. He was the best player on the team.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Nov 5, 2016 21:48:33 GMT -5
Educational attainment and personal development are incumbent on the individual and can be obtained at any NCAA institution. Georgetown and Cal do not guarantee either one. There are a myriad of reasons for selecting a particular school and not selecting an elite academic university is not necessarily a repudiation of intellectual interest. That's true, there is no such thing as determinism. However, you would have to agree that environment is a factor and that when you combine individual initiative with a dynamic environment there is a greater chance of success in life.
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Post by IDenj on Nov 6, 2016 6:47:52 GMT -5
Getting back to Troy Brown and not discussions about poker... Remember when you complained about 3 posts a little off topic...
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 6, 2016 10:44:09 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 6, 2016 11:30:48 GMT -5
Word was out that Tremont was going to be a Hoosier.
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Post by trillesthoya on Nov 6, 2016 11:41:15 GMT -5
I don't like our chances in this one. He's been very explicit that he wants to play the point in college and with Tremont coming there's no reason for him to not pick a school that will have time readily available.
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Post by hoyazeke on Nov 6, 2016 11:55:43 GMT -5
I don't like our chances in this one. He's been very explicit that he wants to play the point in college and with Tremont coming there's no reason for him to not pick a school that will have time readily available. All of his collegiate choices will have multiple pgs when he gets on campus. Also Troy is the 5* recruit. If anything Tremont will be the one losing out if only one can play at a time. I don't get why every blue blood can work out multiple guards in one class but Gtown can't.....
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Post by trillesthoya on Nov 6, 2016 12:10:55 GMT -5
I don't like our chances in this one. He's been very explicit that he wants to play the point in college and with Tremont coming there's no reason for him to not pick a school that will have time readily available. All of his collegiate choices will have multiple pgs when he gets on campus. Also Troy is the 5* recruit. If anything Tremont will be the one losing out if only one can play at a time. I don't get why every blue blood can work out multiple guards in one class but Gtown can't..... It's not multiple guards, it's multiple five/high four-star POINT guards. Troy might be a five-star but from what I've seen Tremont has better skills as a pure point guard, and he's so close to being a five star I doubt that distinction would actually change much.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Nov 6, 2016 12:14:01 GMT -5
I don't like our chances in this one. He's been very explicit that he wants to play the point in college and with Tremont coming there's no reason for him to not pick a school that will have time readily available. Maybe JTIII can sell him of having multiple ball handlers on the floor and he can be either threat on or off the ball in the offense.
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 6, 2016 13:26:45 GMT -5
All of his collegiate choices will have multiple pgs when he gets on campus. Also Troy is the 5* recruit. If anything Tremont will be the one losing out if only one can play at a time. I don't get why every blue blood can work out multiple guards in one class but Gtown can't..... It's not multiple guards, it's multiple five/high four-star POINT guards. Troy might be a five-star but from what I've seen Tremont has better skills as a pure point guard, and he's so close to being a five star I doubt that distinction would actually change much. But you're ignoring Zeke's point about multiple PG's being on the teams he's considering.. Why is it an issue for Gtown but not Cal or Oregon or Kansas?
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Post by trillesthoya on Nov 6, 2016 14:34:11 GMT -5
It's not multiple guards, it's multiple five/high four-star POINT guards. Troy might be a five-star but from what I've seen Tremont has better skills as a pure point guard, and he's so close to being a five star I doubt that distinction would actually change much. But you're ignoring Zeke's point about multiple PG's being on the teams he's considering.. Why is it an issue for Gtown but not Cal or Oregon or Kansas? "it's multiple five/high four-star point guards" There's a difference between having a top ten point guard and a three star, and having two borderline five star point guards. If we had whiffed on waters and signed jamir moultrie then I'd say it wouldn't bother him, but having Tremont along with Tre, Mulmore, and Mosely all there for at least his freshmen year is probably bad news for us. I'm guessing he thinks of himself as a one-and-done type (which he probably is), so having four talent point guards in the roster along side him is just unnecessary competition when he could get 30+ mins per game at any other school at the point from day one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 15:11:55 GMT -5
But you're ignoring Zeke's point about multiple PG's being on the teams he's considering.. Why is it an issue for Gtown but not Cal or Oregon or Kansas? "it's multiple five/high four-star point guards" There's a difference between having a top ten point guard and a three star, and having two borderline five star point guards. If we had whiffed on waters and signed jamir moultrie then I'd say it wouldn't bother him, but having Tremont along with Tre, Mulmore, and Mosely all there for at least his freshmen year is probably bad news for us. I'm guessing he thinks of himself as a one-and-done type (which he probably is), so having four talent point guards in the roster along side him is just unnecessary competition when he could get 30+ mins per game at any other school at the point from day one. Next year Kansas will likely have this backcourt: Devonte Graham - 4-star, returning starter Malik Newman - 5-star, top 10 overall Lagerald Vick - 4-star Junior Marcus Garrett - 4-star, top 50 '17 recruit ...and if he decides to come back for a 2nd year: Josh Jackson - #1 overall recruit in 2016 And you think Troy Brown is worried about the playing time he would get at GU? Because we have 1 top-50 kid coming in?
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 6, 2016 15:47:58 GMT -5
But you're ignoring Zeke's point about multiple PG's being on the teams he's considering.. Why is it an issue for Gtown but not Cal or Oregon or Kansas? "it's multiple five/high four-star point guards" There's a difference between having a top ten point guard and a three star, and having two borderline five star point guards. If we had whiffed on waters and signed jamir moultrie then I'd say it wouldn't bother him, but having Tremont along with Tre, Mulmore, and Mosely all there for at least his freshmen year is probably bad news for us. I'm guessing he thinks of himself as a one-and-done type (which he probably is), so having four talent point guards in the roster along side him is just unnecessary competition when he could get 30+ mins per game at any other school at the point from day one. The other schools on his list have a very similar talent level for the 2017-18 season.. Peyton Pritchard was a legit top 50 kid in 2016 & Benson has played well & has college experience @ Oregon plus they recently got a verbal from 2017 top 100 G Victor Bailey.. Kansas will have the Graham(4*) kid plus they have lead type Marcus Garrett coming in for 2017.. He's ranked 1 spot behind Waters on Rivals top 150.. They also have Malik Newman starting next season.. I just don't see why Gtown would be discounted due to other kids but other schools don't.. He may not choose Gtown but I doubt it'll be due to the kids in the program..
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